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Plainfield VT Select Board: Simple just starts today. I love that right?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, right now. And just for a minute, this is our

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Plainfield VT Select Board: May 27th

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Plainfield VT Select Board: select Board meeting, and it's we're going right into executive session. And would you like to make a motion? Sure, I move we go into executive session per one, Vsa. 13, 3, 13, a 4 for personnel discussions.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Second, second, moved and seconded all those in favor. Aye, I, okay, we will not record this, but we will

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Plainfield VT Select Board: report on what the outcome when we come out.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, are we on here?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: This is a continue. We're coming out of the.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: There's 2 things now being

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it's the note taker I think we're on. Can you hear us all thumbs up if you can hear us?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: No.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Can. Are we being heard.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, yes, okay. Okay. We had a extended executive session to deal with the personnel policy. And there is no action to be taken coming out of that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: so we're gonna move into our regular discussion. Regular meeting,

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and we're going to start with

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Plainfield VT Select Board: changes to the agenda. There were a few ideas on changes for the agenda, and Patty did, too. Yeah, go ahead right now. Okay. I want I heard last week after years people been trying to solve this problem in front of the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in front of the Town Hall, and with the intersection. And I think that we right now at this moment to decide that we're gonna repaint the sidewalk repaint the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: The crosswalk. There used to be one right in front of the right in front of here, right in front of the top, right in front of here, right in front of the library and one in front of the post office. There used to be 3 of them, and now there's not any. They're all faded off. I think we should do that right now.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think we should put a light up.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, just to clarify Patty. There's a section in this agenda where we're talking about our response to the routine intersection. So we'd love to hear more about it. Then. Then, okay, I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay. No, no, thank you for saying something.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's a fast check in on municipal holidays, because Juneteenth is around the corner. Yeah. And then discussion of bond council for the $150,000. Vcf. Interim phase 2 loan just to clarify which council is being retained. Right? I'm not sure. I know that answer. It's a short agenda. We'll get there when we get to the agenda. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: okay. I I had a couple of announcements. The

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Michael Billingsley is going to be hosting the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: meeting at the Town Hall regarding accessibility. June 1st at 1 30, and volunteers are needed for that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I've been talking to Bob Atkinson about the raccoon concerns at 99 Main Street, and he is

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Plainfield VT Select Board: he. We can talk about that if anyone likes, but he is taking action on that, and has not had any success yet.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: But he's been trapping. And

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and also there's a a meeting career center plans at Twin Field. They want to develop a career center at the school, and that's going to be June 4, th 6 to 7, 30

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Plainfield VT Select Board: at twin field.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So those are my announcements. Any others.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: What? What is the career center.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's an alternative to our regional career centers. I think it's part of that. I don't know all the details I was asked to. Can you say the time again. Sorry? Oh, yeah, it's June 4th at the at Twin Field

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Plainfield VT Select Board: 6 to 7 30.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I have a poster up downstairs on the on the board. So there should be detail there. The only thing I know about that is that the career center has been

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Plainfield VT Select Board: all the schools going to Spalding. And they did a really good job, but it sounds like they want to have their own. And it's

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Plainfield VT Select Board: is that correct? I I think that's right. But twin field would have to initiate that. That's what they're doing. Yes.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay. Any public comment.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Michael. I just to flesh out what you had, said, Carl, that the the Forum here on Sunday afternoon at 2 30, is for family or households who have people with disabilities where they might need to evacuate. So it's about planning for evacuation and planning to go to shelter, and it also will be for anybody interested in being a shelter worker to train, how to work with people with disabilities.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you. And again apologies to all for being late with getting started.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Any other comments from the public.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I have a question. Whatever happened about the electrical we're we're making a a box to people plug in their electrical cars.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't know. I don't have any information on that we'd have to ask Bob Atchison, to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which one okay, town clerk in court

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Plainfield VT Select Board: 99, Main Street issue a context of the trapper after the demo

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Plainfield VT Select Board: gave the rates. Obviously the homeowner really should exhort that cost.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and there are concerns about a couple of the rectums being routed, I called the game warden, but they deferred me back to, you know, having a private person do it

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and the reconciliation. Both went smoothly and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: okay. Thanks for thanks for checking on that, though. Yeah, I think everyone signed it. Not not tonight. But I think I may have already signed what's in there. And Bram, when you said, Re, the reconsideration vote of the zoning. Yeah, I just want to make sure for.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: What the loss.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay. Town Treasury report, Josh. Yes, you mentioned. Yes, thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah. He's on he's on deployment. Oh, wow.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Josh.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and if I don't know if you want this, Mike, or do you want to go over there? But

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't think this has been turned on, so let me should be good.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So over the past couple of weeks I worked with back elder associates, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I was hoping tonight to have a statement of position prepared so that you could kind of see where we've

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Plainfield VT Select Board: You know where we fall in budgetarily. One of the one of the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: puzzle pieces to slot into that was to work with Nimeric. They were scheduled for last Thursday.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: At the last minute. They had to reschedule to this Thursday. So that part I didn't get in place

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Plainfield VT Select Board: but I've definitely come to understand, like the nature of error, that kind of has made it difficult to reconcile

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Plainfield VT Select Board: a lot of the accounts that we have.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and it's that there was work that was begun sometime in like April to May. And so I'm in

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Plainfield VT Select Board: just previous to the flood that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: was never completed, and I think, was just left, but I was unaware that it was incomplete work, and this this was the root cause of why the treasurer's report was delayed, and then

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Plainfield VT Select Board: likely is the cause of errors there.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So planning on having a much broader discussion at the next, like, we're meeting about

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the full picture of the corrective action. Make sure that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: ask for time for that. Then

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Plainfield VT Select Board: one of the things I wanted to bring up is that we've only got all the last payment came in today for 2023 Federal highway. Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you. Federal and the the part of the reason that we need to get a good statement of position and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the town put together beyond the good accountability is that the bond bank is gonna require some of this documentation so that we can extend their terms for a loan.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So except, I mean, Excuse me, extended line of credit and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and so all that work is still in progress. The another

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Plainfield VT Select Board: piece that I wanted to highlight is I believe you. Carly probably signed it. But

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the the letter of

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Plainfield VT Select Board: That was from the letter of intent to support the the ready

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Plainfield VT Select Board: consultant to help us write the grant and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and I I believe I don't know if Terrence discussed it more widely, or Karen's on the call today. But not yet.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: But that's a good step forward for us for obtaining like quality assistance and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: pursuing the Cdg grants. And the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: another another thing is a little bit of a transition into is the we finally have a design contract

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Plainfield VT Select Board: completed for the Mill Street Bridge.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Virtually one should be shortly

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Plainfield VT Select Board: one of the issues delaying the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: further, the projects further up screen was, there was some

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we had a bit of a back and forth with amt about what we would consider permanent and what was considered not not approved for permanent projects.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think we're mostly have landed on everything below Gray Road, with the exception of Bridge 22, which is a space of Camden Road will all be considered part of a permanent project may not be the same, numbering that we've been using all along, because one of them got merged. So that took out number 7, I think, and and then one of them is split into essentially 4 sites.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and that would be Number 8, which would include the 3 washouts in in between Gray Road and Fowler Road and one of the bridges that's completely damaged, which is bridge, 12

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and that, and then another small hurdle that we have to overcome is that the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Aot did not agree with our selection for municipal project management. We had selected. Just so, everybody knows. The the procedure is that 3 representatives from the town, or a minimum of 2 must be, must form a selection committee to to be the to select the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: firms that are going to be doing the management and design consulting, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Carl and Peter have been doing that work with me. We'll have to go back to the drawing board because, felt like having

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Plainfield VT Select Board: The boys and King do the design work adjacent to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: their management work locations would be

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Plainfield VT Select Board: would be a bit of a conflict. So

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and I, I think I emailed you, too, and reached out for what days would be good to get together on that? The

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Plainfield VT Select Board: there are a number of people who've been using the road reporting form, which I think is great, and the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And we understand that there are a lot of problems with the pavement on Main street.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: The!

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's the intention of the road forming to get that section through Main Street extension and down break like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: removing some of the existing pavement

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Plainfield VT Select Board: releveling it and then paving that. And that's been in the slot for a while. It's getting delayed because of a lot of the things that have happened

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Plainfield VT Select Board: because of the flood. And then the, there's been a few other few other kind of

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Plainfield VT Select Board: significant projects that came up with that recent heavy rain over on

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Country Club road. They did a. They did a lot of work on a culvert there, that is, where the old train trestle went through, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: but I'm happy to say that they were able to complete that work

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Plainfield VT Select Board: on their own time quite efficiently and quickly, with the help of having an excavator, and I asked the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I asked the foreman like, so

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Plainfield VT Select Board: what would you do if you did have the excavator so well, we absolutely can't do it with backhoe. We would have had to rent an excavator or hire a company. So you know, I think over time that that move should hopefully save money.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Good

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Plainfield VT Select Board: good afternoon. You covered a whole bunch of things really really quick. I wanted to go back to the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: ready

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Plainfield VT Select Board: consultant. Have we seen anything? I just heard about it this afternoon at a meeting that Francis Rose and I were at with

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Plainfield VT Select Board: for my community foundation that this this is from Housing and Conservation Board. This is to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: a consultant for the Cdbgdr. Grant. Correct? Yes, this is part of the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the work we have to do, to make sure that we have everything like professionally assembled and put together, so that we can submit it successfully. But there you mentioned the letter. Is there a letter for us to sign? I haven't seen. There was one for the chair to sign. Okay. It was in the yellow folder. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: do we need to authorize you to sign it? Is that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or did you sign it already? I think I signed it.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm not sure about that. But we can get authorization. It. It's it's nearly like, it's a request. It's a request. Yeah, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I was hoping that Karen. Pat would be on to speak to that a little more fully. But the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: but essentially like, you know, the process of like putting together these large, should we authorize Carl to sign in the event that it's necessary to still do so?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, motion to authorize, probably 6 to sign the the ready. Grant

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Plainfield VT Select Board: moved and seconded all those in favor. Wait, we need the. We need the wording. What are we authorizing you to sign? We need it. The letter you have to call. We have to call it something a letter requesting the ready grant the ready grant REDI, RE. Correct.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh, okay, you need to ask. Call the vote.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and all those in favor. Aye, aye.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: unanimous vote. I will make sure that that is taken care of my other question. I I don't think I've seen an email from you about the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: project management stuff there was that come this afternoon. I said it this afternoon. Yeah, it just came from me. Yeah, I haven't been there. Yeah. And I sent back a response. So basically, we, I think we had come up with who was the 3rd contractor Stantec. So we're basically looking to bring them into the management. We that was on our initial list. So for the municipal project management, and then

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we will need to select another design firm for some for one of the we'll have to.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: We'll need to look at the other locations that we haven't made selections for, but

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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, bringing it. Bring another firm into the mix. And you know, knowing

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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, we made that assessment some time ago. We may wanna

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Plainfield VT Select Board: review. Okay, I just want to note. So you're on the lookout for it. So the legislature pass the the next fiscal year budget, and in the fiscal year budget every town that's been flood affected is getting a payment.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: depending on how much damage, and I don't know exactly where we're technically at, but it's likely we'll get a 50,000 or $75,000 payment from the fiscal year budget. I spoke with our State Senator Andy Perchlick, who's the Chair of Appropriations this morning? He said. Last year there was a lot of delay in those payments, and so he's already starting to talk to the Administration about getting those checks out as soon into the fiscal year as possible. So just as an fyi is that an open ended?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's not a grant. It's it's it's literally language for towns with damage from the 2023, and 2024 floods based on how much damage the town got. There's a there's a like. If you're between 1 million 5 million, you're getting $50,000. If you're between 5 million and up, you're getting 75. Correct? Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I have a quick question for you, Josh, regarding the road.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the personnel we're we're dealing with personnel policy rewriting that and all.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: We just hired somebody. And is that the road foreman who hires them? Is that you? Is that the board?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It is, it is the board that has the final hiring, I believe.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Add on the so, if that hasn't happened.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that should there's no procedure, you know about that that would dictate how that's done right now.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm not the one who is in the charge of that process, so I don't know exactly

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Plainfield VT Select Board: what the process has been for for him thus far. Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in in the fall, when we hired Dylan

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it was Select Board members were invited to be part of the interview process. I I took part, and then once we made a recommendation that subcommittee. It went to the Select Board, and in an open meeting like this. There's an official hiring of the position. So that step probably still needs to happen.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, I participated in the hiring committee of this last one, and then was informed that they'd started. So I don't think we've actually acted. We haven't. That's what I was wondering we can catch up to that. Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that's I mean, considering that it's already done. Well, we would need a start date

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and the proper spelling of their name, and we would want to make it official and not just yes.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: maybe the road Commissioner knows these things.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm not a good speller. We'll return to this next time

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we'll return to this next time. Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, we should do that at the next meeting. Yeah, yeah. Just

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Plainfield VT Select Board: when Josh said that wasn't his process, I thought that maybe he wasn't prepared for that. So thank you. Josh.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: okay UV eac report.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Excellent. Jared Birchmore.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: speaking for Ebeac. Just a couple of brief updates. Could you say what? The avenues for people watching online? Yes, thank you. East Village Expansion advisory committee?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: The main updates. From our last meeting, which was on Thursday of last week. We're currently looking at 2 different budget scenarios, scenario, A, which is what we anticipate to be the most

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Plainfield VT Select Board: likely scenario or the the most promising scenario at this point in time is receiving grant funding through the community Development Block grant disaster relief. So Cdbg Dash, Dr.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Karen, Hatcher and the Grants Group has been working and staying up to date on that process and believe that that could fund

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Plainfield VT Select Board: most of the project, if not all of it. So that is the the kind of primary scenario that we're working on as our number one process. The secondary scenario. In the event that we don't receive that fund, those funds, or we receive a portion of what we ask would be combining the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the funds raised from land sales with whatever grant money we get from that grant, as well as a couple of other smaller grants that the Grant team is looking into

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and in relation to that as well. One of our subgroups, the construction and permitting group is looking to to create a sketch that accommodates 10 acres of sellable land rather than in the current scenario. There's about 8.2 acres of sellable land

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and so just exploring that potential other alternative in the event that we do need to raise more from land sales than branch or other funding.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I believe that's pretty much the main updates here. I also just want to state that the next meeting is June 12th here at the Opera House at 5 Pm. Folks can also join via zoom and we do have a village expansion email address. If folks have questions, concerns comments that, they want the whole committee to hear. So that is village expansion@plainfieldvt.gov.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: All of our meeting notes and agendas are posted online as well on the playing field town page.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, and any questions from the board.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I have one question. Oh, I have a question.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: do you know what the status is of the sale of the property?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: No, I do not. Okay, that's our kind of our yeah. But I was just wondering if he had a report on it. Yeah, no, I don't believe, and I I wasn't able to attend the meeting on Thursday, but I don't believe that that was has been discussed. Just wondering if it came up.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Go ahead, Michael, be very straightforward. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Michael Billing site.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I had a meeting with Erin, boomery and burrows last week about the runoff, and drainage issues from

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the meadow as it exists now, and the in other words, the meadow is a

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Plainfield VT Select Board: drainage area that comes down to Creamery Street, and I've been working with the landowners on Creamery Street to determine what happens to that water when it gets to the bottom

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we have heavy rain. It tends to be exceed the capacity of the culvert and flood a lot of the backyards on the creamery and Hudson and Brook road area, especially behind 99 Brook. And so we've been

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Plainfield VT Select Board: floating. The idea of having a catch pool, which is sort of like a pond. It's very, very difficult to fit in the area that we were looking at with the 8.2 acres. So when you say expanding the number of buildable lands to 10 acres.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which obviously has to take into account the wetlands that are being preserved and protected. It suggests the possibility there might not be room for a catch pool, and and it's still an open question about how that pool would be designed where it would be located. But the idea is to try and slow the water down before it damages the center of the village. So I'm just throwing that up now as something that might be part of the future discussion. Jared can pass that along, I assume, and to the building committee.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you for that report.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you, Jared.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think we're up to who are

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Plainfield VT Select Board: oh, wait! Amended appointment to planning commission sheriff. Contract renewal. Oh, I'm sorry

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I looked at. I looked at Captain Myers.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Our our constable is on

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Plainfield VT Select Board: a deployment. So he's not here. So you have.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: You've got another contract.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: The fire is being held close to the base. Right?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay for those that don't know.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh, I turned it off. You just got to push that up. Sorry for those who don't know me. I'm Captain Brett Meyer Washington Sheriff's Department. We've had a contract with Plainfield for oh, gosh! I started here in 89. Excuse me, started here in 92. We had a contract in 92. I think I was on the board then.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I sent you the statistics. So you should have a copy of statistics. Let you know where we are?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: presently we're same as all other law enforcement. Basically in the state of Vermont. We're all looking for help.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we are down on Staff some. But as far as what we're doing is we're basically covering everything with full time staff now, because it's very few part timers. People don't want to get involved in this career on a part. Time level.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: You might have noticed that our rates went up from 60 to 66 this year, some of that for being able to retain help. I can tell you. A month. There right now is 37, and change before they even go to the Academy. So for us to be able to try to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: even match, that is is difficult. In addition, we also went to what the Federal mileage rate is plus 10 cents, and the purpose why we did that is

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Plainfield VT Select Board: We just recently purchased truck to come in sometime, I think in August.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I can tell you what that rate or what we're paying for that it's just over $64,000.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So the price of vehicles, as I'm sure you're seeing with the highway department, etc. Everything just keeps going up, and a lot of it's the equipment that goes in the vehicles. Not a bunch of vehicle.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's just becoming astronomical to be able to try to run business an easy way to say it. So those 2 rates are going up. And just so you are aware of that. It's minimal at this point. That's where we want to be able to keep it and be able to help the towns out and still be able to keep staff.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, that's appreciated.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: When is this contract due? Is there a date on it? It will actually be July first.st Okay,

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we did have one discussion, and Dan's not here to talk about it about

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Plainfield VT Select Board: traffic monitoring, you know, speeding, getting speeders, and so on, and focusing on areas where there might be

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Plainfield VT Select Board: more speeding than others. Make sure that your staff is in the right place. He actually freaked out to me recently, okay, we'll see some additional attention in that area. Yeah. Good. Okay. So you all feel openness to receiving from either the constable or other town officials. Direction on where to position your staff. No, we look for is one contact person

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which is fine. Whoever on the select board, which

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Plainfield VT Select Board: him being where he is right now. He's obviously not going to be able to give me information, but it's easier to have one person make contact with me that way. I know it's you guys are gathering the information, and generally what we're looking for. If it gets specific vehicle.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So we can either target that one specific vehicle and or visit the person and say.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Gotta slow it down. And then if we get get that person, then that's a whole different measure but, on the other hand, is the time it's happening.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: because I don't want to be scheduling somebody at 7 o'clock in the morning. If it's happening at 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I wanted to offer that the town clerk had played a role as the contact in past years, and it might be helpful to check with him to see if that's still appropriate. Yeah, yeah, we'll we'll be talking to RAM about that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: What was my thought? Oh, one of the things was that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we have a town site that that lets citizens register issues on the roads

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Plainfield VT Select Board: if there's damage or well, and Josh has said that it's okay to also register speeding.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Am I right, Josh, about that? Yeah. So that would be a way for us to collect data that we could get to Dan, or whoever's connecting with you. Yeah, okay. And point of information that's available on the town website. Yes. And it's available right now. So anyone who has issues with speeders can can just explain

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Plainfield VT Select Board: what they're seeing. And when right, this sounds like those are the 2 issues you need.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I know in the past I've kind of followed Plainfield people to know people event, and sometimes that's the only way they'll bet. Well, we're we're in in light of the increases in in costs. We, we're trying to focus our

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Plainfield VT Select Board: value of your department and where we see the biggest issues. Yes, Danny, Josh, can you update that form? Maybe with a note, if you want to report? If you want to report speeding or unsafe traffic, please note the road. The time of day. Any other information you may have. Yeah, you could. Probably

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it's very open end. Yeah. Well, so I thought if you give them some instruction. Then we might get better information from the reporting agreed

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Plainfield VT Select Board: without prompting might not get as detailed as is designed.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, I think at the last meeting. Josh informed us that we spent roughly half of our budget for the current fiscal year.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So even with the prices going up, it sounds like we're in okay shape for the coming year, because I think we have appropriated the same amount. And I do appreciate the receptiveness to be open to some targeted direction from us that probably would make our dollars even more, I can tell you. I know

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Plainfield VT Select Board: last year, obviously, you guys been running into a lot of problems with everything going on. And there was shifts that weren't scheduled

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Plainfield VT Select Board: trying to give you guys

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Plainfield VT Select Board: money on your end when we get the complaints. And I would end up going and scheduling things to deal with the complaints

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and stuff, and that was more to be able to allow the money to be back in the town dealing with the things that you had to deal with.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: with, that I will. We'll let you know. I did notice an issue on these still with the ordinances. Just so you're aware. The lower end, the pay section. We don't have an ordinance for that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Just so you're aware for that speed zone. So yeah, we need to have an ordinance put in place for a particular speed zone there. If I remember, it's 30, and on the bottom end 2525. So there is no ordinance for that. 25, I thought. That's the whole village.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and you have it separated by different roadways, and then the 35 is for your dirt roads by State statute. So the the lower section of East Hill is not. We have no ordinance for that section. In addition, I heard I only heard part of the Crosswalk issue earlier. You have ordinances for your crosswalks.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: so you have designated crosswalk. So if you're going to add some extras, you probably want to deal with ordinances for that as well. Okay, that's good information. Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And then I'll add on an additional thing that we actually applied for a grant last year for

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Plainfield VT Select Board: a message, variable message, board and speed, what we call speed card to be able to set up. So we can set up in different areas to deal with speed on that end of things, literally waiting for it to be delivered. So the grant on to be able to use in different towns. Variable message board works very well except for smugglers. Notch.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: hey? It? It has worked a lot better than other other.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: But with that said when we get down to old home days and stuff like that, we'll be able to set that up to give some free warning. etc, oh, great

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Plainfield VT Select Board: heard so it sounds like, we needed some

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Plainfield VT Select Board: update our ordinances so that your staff has something to work with. Yeah, okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm curious what the next steps are about the contract itself.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Do we need to authorize its signing?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: yeah, I I don't know if I actually have seen that. Have you seen it? I don't know that we've received the contract itself. It was sent okay. I think we got it months ago.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, they sent it to us a long time ago. Yeah, okay, we didn't act on it, but we need to act on it. I don't know if we need to act right now, or do we want to put it on the next agenda? So we have a time to let's get it on the next agenda. We can review it, refresh our memory, but I have found it. I will forward it to all I see, on May May 12, th it was sent to us. Okay, thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah. At at the point of

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Plainfield VT Select Board: hopefully, one of you know the answer to this outside the this building there is a crosswalk sign that was put in by V trans, and there is actually no location for that crosswalk that I know of, and one of the questions I the question I have is, is there anybody who knows if there's a formal designation of a crosswalk and cross route to here.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't believe there is, there is not, and that's why those signs are taken away. If you look at the project that was approved for the reinters. Intersection rebuild. It did include the sidewalk continuing from the bridge up and coming right across. So there is a space, a place designated on that design for that crosswalk.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And and there's also a discussion about a light, some kind of alarm down

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Plainfield VT Select Board: towards Marshfield, that alert people coming around the corner that there is a crosswalk. You push a button when you want to cross, and it does activate a light. So someone could potentially also warn the traffic. I believe that's what they're talking about. Okay? And this is a State. It's a Federal highway. So it's really

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Plainfield VT Select Board: out of our control. Josh.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So for a crosswalk to be like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: legit. You have to have a receiving facility on the other side of the transit facility, so we don't have a we don't have a

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Plainfield VT Select Board: proper receiving facility in the crossing on the opposite side. Here there's no sidewalk on the other side of the road. Exactly, and it's not just that it can't do. It's not just that. It's a sidewalk as to meet the code for Federal

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Plainfield VT Select Board: like tactile pavement and a curbside and a ramps to go. Yeah, it needs a lot of work, and that's why combining it with that intersection project makes sense to me, Patty, you had a question about that right. No, I just. I know we used to have them and used to have crosswalks, and they're all gone. So I wonder how we can. Just I know there's been a big problem with the intersection. I don't know what we can't just

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Plainfield VT Select Board: put them out, but now I see there's all these other things I know about.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, and it's not our road right? So we.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: our town, can't put out the lines. That would be V, trans, right? They have to, and they have to be this Federal standards and stuff. Well, the only problem is that they

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Plainfield VT Select Board: last last time we were here they said they they put $70,000, and they had all these things to look at.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So why can't that be something that can be the 1st thing to look at? Why can't we

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Plainfield VT Select Board: ask that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: to make it safe for us to make? Give us some crosswalks? One that's a link. One great thing that's coming up is that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: there's actually a couple of grants that we're gonna pursue to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in service of like building sidewalk infrastructure, pedestrian infrastructure. And

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And so that's been that's actually been like a new, like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: another new focus of the Grant group to get that move forward and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: like. I think we'll have more information about that, probably by the next meeting. I bet good.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So it it's being worked on.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's slow, I know. But I just

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that General is here last time said that when he 1st started this he was. He was a little kid. Now he's like, you know.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: 50 or something, and I just wonder how it can be maybe escalate a little bit.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: When I moved here we were talking about a bypass. So up by the hill over the hill, I knew that. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that was 45 years ago. Okay, so how can we make it move faster?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, we we have this yeah, money. But we also have the a proposal, or at least an idea of a redesign of this intersection that would include those sidewalks and crosswalks that's for is that for 2027. Yes, yeah. So that's still 2 years away, still, 2 years still 2 years away. I don't see why we couldn't

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Plainfield VT Select Board: for us to get? Or is it crosswalk that exist? Painted? Yeah, I mean, that would make sense. Yeah, I think they probably took them away because they're not legal anymore. Just for clarity. We had this as a agenda. Item, a few items from now to go into. I don't know if we were okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Sorry I missed that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Any other questions for Captain Harris. You have any for us? Okay, thanks for being here tonight. Yeah, we'll we'll address this next next time

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Plainfield VT Select Board: appreciate it. Everything you guys are doing

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Plainfield VT Select Board: okay?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And now we have to amend the appointment of our planning commission person who we didn't give a.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So I move that we amend our previous action, and appoint David Sheckman to a 3 year term, ending April 15, th 2028.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Is there a second second.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and all those in favor say, I had a question. Sorry before we oh, I'm sorry. Typically, with these boards and things right after the the town meeting happens, we do the reappointments. I don't know if that's written in our rules, that like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: appointments, and not on like 3 years to the day. But after the next like. So like 3 years from now, after town meeting, the planning commission has a charter, and April 15, th April 15th is the day. Okay, thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah. Will, I? Asked Will. If you sent that grace.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: They also, just for curiosity's sake, no one is allowed to be on that commission longer than 9 years.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh, interesting. Yeah, we have a couple other examples.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And we may have someone who has been in their position longer than we'll try and do that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Is that a future agenda item next time? Yeah, I forget which commission. So it's not this one. Do you want to circle back and let us know when you want to address it. Great! Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Appreciate your attention to detail, Peter.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, definitely, always. I think it was Josh who mentioned that there that Waterbury has a

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Plainfield VT Select Board: has a volunteer festival day, where there's music and food and and booths of all the committees in town who are looking for volunteers, so just throw it out there. And so I think it's a great idea. I mean, home days is coming. We can put an invitation out to all the committees. Yeah. Chairs, yeah. Is there want to recruit? And they can discuss what they do. And people who have an interest in that can join up.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: How would that suit you? Well.

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Will Colgan: They would have to be a public meeting, because if 2 of 3 of us get together it it just all have to be A Super Warm Meeting A Mega Meeting.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: A Mega meeting. Yeah, lots of lots of quorums.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay? I guess the next item is discuss the sidewalk policy.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: That rumbler.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't know to say that now I mean, what's that again?

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Will Colgan: Do you want me to sort of lay out the the idea behind it? Carl.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, yeah, please, yeah.

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Will Colgan: Yeah. Well, it came about, as you know, that the town is applying for a neighborhood development area.

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Will Colgan: We've been doing this since October. The goalposts keep moving as we go along the deadline for a special meeting, for this round is June Monday, so the one of the components is for a neighborhood is to have a connectivity

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Will Colgan: and so they wanted us to have a sidewalk policy which I sort of cribbed together from other towns and spoke with Alicia about accessibility.

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Will Colgan: and we came up with a policy that tries to build out the sidewalk network over time, knowing that, like the intersection and Mill Street Bridge and Brook Road Bridge, or need to be finished before the rest of the sidewalk

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Will Colgan: is done, and streets like Martin, Meadows and Hudson are lower lower traffic and and don't really need the kind of sidewalks. And we wanted to connect to Goddard College, also the Goddard project along Route 2 once again. That's along the Federal highway that involves aot.

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Will Colgan: Who knows what the restrictions are, and that but the policy is is goal oriented. This is what we want to try to do, knowing the constraints of it.

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Will Colgan: So so what? What is needed then, for.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: For this designation that can be put into the next meeting. The Grant meeting in.

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Will Colgan: Well, the Grant Review is separate. This is the neighborhood development application that we're finishing up. So I sent out the the sidewalk policy to all the members, made a few correction additions as results of some suggestions by Rose, and it would be nice if the Select Board could approve it. So it's sort of official knowing that

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Will Colgan: it's just a policy, and obviously it, things will change as it goes along. And I tried to make it as flexible as possible, knowing that the route 2 interchange

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Will Colgan: who knows what's going to happen there? But the town wants a wants a sidewalk there, and it wants one that's legal and Ada accessible, and there's a grant out there that'll maybe get us started. Not sure. You know what. If we got $50,000. It'd be nice, you know, to upgrade some of the sidewalks for Ada accessibility and

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Will Colgan: maybe add a hundred feet here or there. But the goal the policy states a goal of completing a comprehensive sidewalk network in on the roads in the village that can take it as

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Will Colgan: the construction and rebuilding takes place.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the map I saw looked pretty pretty connected. It was, it was well thought through. I thought, yeah, I appreciated the the draft iterations will. I think it reads well and is a strong policy, and I'm happy to support it. I'm happy to make a motion to support it. If this is the time. Make a motion to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: approved as sidewalk policy as given to the Select Board by the Planning Commission. Second.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: moved and seconded any discussion. Yeah, I would just for the public say that this is a vision, and it also says that it should be constructed with grant funding as much as possible. If no grants become available at a reasonable time. The goal of the town is to establish a capital construction reserve fund for future sidewalk construction, which we did at town meeting. So other than that, it just explains, you know, here are the different projects that we'll just cover.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, Betsy.

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Betsy Ziegler: Yes, Hi, I'm just questioning. Is there a did you prioritize certain sidewalks? And I I haven't. I'm sorry to say I haven't seen the finished product sidewalk policy, but such as Route 2 from the intersection down to Maple Val or whatever not Maple Valley. But

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Betsy Ziegler: nice. Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh! Can you address that.

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Will Colgan: I would I would say the prioritization is, is fun. As as funding is available. The if if we can get $50,000, we would make sense. It would make sense to do a smaller project. If it's a hundred $1,000 to get to Maple Valley, and we only have 50,

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Will Colgan: we'll we'll, you know. I think that would be the best answer. But

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Will Colgan: that's the way it's sort of written. There's no priority. I think. I think the grant the next grant might prioritize that based on availability fundings

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: yeah. And Betty, the the policy has this. There's a there was a scoping study done in 2017 of where we need sidewalks in town. And so it links those and says that we should do those sidewalks, plus added some areas like existing sidewalks to the Goddard campus property Main Street to connect to propose new housing on East Hill. There's a long list of things it does not prioritize

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which should be first, st and which should be 10.th But it does list. It does list sidewalks, and also the scoping study lists. A bunch of other sidewalks.

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Betsy Ziegler: And.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And Josh, you have a point

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Plainfield VT Select Board: one of the one of the features of a grant that we're looking at. Because, like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: like maple fields and outer spice are both in Marshfield, and that population area is in Marshfield because we're crossing town lines that can sometimes give us, like better chances to kind of get the grant in place for that. So that is 1 1 of the ways which

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that particular section can get moved forward more quickly, I think.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Great.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, Michael, I wanted to say that in the funding that there was a discussion that also came up in the Village Expansion Project, which is that we have a goal to have what would be called Walkable Village, so that younger couples and and people who are

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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, whatever whatever reason they might want to walk anywhere, easier to do that, and part of that is to be, of course, in the form of sidewalks, but part of it also is lighting. So I just wanted to throw out that there we add sidewalks. We also have to look at making sure they're safely lighted so that people feel safe as they're going out at night, for instance.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay? Oh, Alicia.

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Alicia Weiss: Yeah, thank you. I'm going to reveal my ignorance of existing town policies. But do I understand that we've created a fund for sidewalks which is good. I hope we get Grant money to go in there. But is there a means by which the town prioritizes upkeep

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Alicia Weiss: and repair of sidewalks? I'm concerned. I mean, 1st of all, some of these sidewalks are accessibility issues because you can. There's no way you can navigate a wheelchair, manual or power through them. So you're isolating people. But also I'm concerned about the there. I think there's a liability risk with some of

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Alicia Weiss: the the condition of some of the patches of sidewalk that exist right now.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Do you want to address that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: hit or down the road with creating

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Plainfield VT Select Board: capital asset management like for all the facilities in the highway department. The sidewalk is also part of that. Like, we don't really have a an organized

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Plainfield VT Select Board: process by which we we create the stacking of

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Plainfield VT Select Board: projects in the roads. And so.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: as that comes forward also sidewalks, you know the, you know.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: putting things forward, 1st depending on the location and funding, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that matrix, like the sidewalks, will come with that, too, and certainly

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Plainfield VT Select Board: feel free to use the road reporting form for

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that as well cause it is part of the conveyance of people in the town.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and it is the responsibility of the highway department to maintain that facility.

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Will Colgan: Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, Peter and Alicia. The the policy itself, number 3 in the policy says there shall be a yearly maintenance plan and long term repair plan, which will utilize the town funding in this reserve fund. And then so it does call for that. And it also talks about Ada requirements as a priority in new construction.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean, I think, that.

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Alicia Weiss: Good to know.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you for, Josh. Were you aware of Number 3? Were you following? That? Is that your purview? A yearly maintenance plan, and long-term repair plan for the sidewalk policy with me, as far as I know, apologies. That's fine. I'm way ahead of you guys.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So you you accept this and I appreciate the road through sweeping the sidewalks. Recently, I noticed they ran the machine down, getting them clean. So that makes it a little easier. Can we call the question for Will about the nda. You want to vote first, st or

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Plainfield VT Select Board: oh, it's different question. Well, will you? Said this, this is part of the nda application. And so you said, we're that we are applying for. Who is we.

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Will Colgan: The town, the town, the select board, remember the grant back in

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Will Colgan: Oh! It was in the fall

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Will Colgan: that the select board approved a grant for the center of Vermont Regional Planning Commission to for the town to apply for the Neighborhood development area.

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Will Colgan: So there was a grant that was awarded to the town, which is basically funding for the Central Vermont Regional Planning Commission to assist the town in applying for this designation.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, are we gonna see that before it goes in.

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Will Colgan: The application. I can, I can email it to you. Yeah, we're still, we're there's still some discrepancy about the boundary and how it interfaces with the wastewater

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Will Colgan: permit. But basically it's pretty close to the what is what what the wastewater lines are, because the density is determined by the ability to connect to the wastewater

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Will Colgan: plant.

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Will Colgan: So it quickly to imagine that it's it's this, it's the. It's the sewer service area.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I didn't follow. I think he's still working on the application, and there's still pieces of it that they're figuring out, including the wastewater.

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Will Colgan: Yes, and and and we're still trying to decide with the State how they want to accept our application.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: But when you say we is this the planning commission.

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Will Colgan: Yes, the play, the Planning Commission, has has been working with it. Yes.

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Will Colgan: and the Central Mount Regional Planning Commission.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And who's signing off on this application.

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Will Colgan: I'm gonna sign it.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

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Will Colgan: That's how how how the agreement was designed.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, thank you. Yeah. That was the question.

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Will Colgan: Grant was just to create the application, and I.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, we have a motion. And second, and we need a vote, everybody ready to vote. All those in favor say, aye, aye, aye, unanimous vote.

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Will Colgan: So thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Good luck will thank you.

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Will Colgan: Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay,

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we have a discussion addressing owners of derelict property. You missed one again. I did it again. You got to not check stuff off till we get there. Discussion is done, didn't we? Didn't we do sidewalk policy?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't have anything.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay. I don't have it on mine. That's all right. So what is the next item?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, discuss special appointment of Sandy bitching? Yes, right?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: as the as the select board liaison.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I just got this today. But this might have been addressed.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, I'm gonna share this with you here. You can have this one. I have the okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Shall I introduce this.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm sorry I'm I'm asking for. Shall I introduce this? Please do? Yes, please do.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It came to my and our attention that Sandy Bitz tune was, is still holding for the Select Board

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Plainfield VT Select Board: certain responsibilities relating to the East Village Expansion Project.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and after the transition to official Committee had fallen out of any kind of official role.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And so there is want to acknowledge

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that she still is working for us to bring transparency to that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And so I'm bringing motion language which might be.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think, perhaps needed to be heard in order to discuss it, so I guess I propose

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Plainfield VT Select Board: making the motion, and then having a discussion. Okay, let's do that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, I'd like to make you. This is 2 paragraphs long. Just so you know.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: make a motion to establish a liaison role, to support the Select Board specifically with East Village expansion, related agreements

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and or transactions related to land purchases.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: This volunteer role is meant to coordinate and communicate between connected stakeholders to shore and hold relationships and deliver vital information across the web of project participants when needed. They serve at no cost to the town.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: With recognition that this role moves between many stakeholders, including legal counsel, it is necessary that it be bound by a sensitive confidentiality, sharing only what and to whom is required or allowed by law, depending on circumstance

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in regard to all information contained wherein, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: remains answerable to the select board of all times. Any offers made in this role. This is land offers specifically or agreements, negotiations offers made in this role must be checked and cleared with all connected stakeholders, including the East Village Expansion Advisory Committee, and be approved by the Select Board.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: This motion includes the appointment of Sandra Witstoon to fill this position.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Is there a second for that?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So we can discuss it?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Second, second, okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Dan. Seconded, any discussion.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I am not in favor of this. I do want to acknowledge.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Francis rose. And I have gone back and emails and thank you for including some of my suggestions in tweaking and focusing the language.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm still not sure of this exact role.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I watched the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: East pillows Expansion Advisory committee meeting the other night, and Francis Rose went there to talk talk about this, and I was taken by the fact that most of the folks, one right after the other, were surprised about Sandy's role continued. They thought she had stepped back, except for 2 things, discussing with the person who lives in the trailer.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and I guess, asking, following up on the request to the Feds to step back from oversight of wetlands. That's I think, the Army Corps of Engineers.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: That's what all I thought was going on that they understood. And so I'm not quite sure what this expanded role is. I know we did talk about this with legal counsel.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: In executive session. So I don't want to say any more than that at this at this point. But I am

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Plainfield VT Select Board: not quite sure what this accomplishes.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And I have some concerns about it accomplishing more than we may want.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I can respond, yeah, and at least initially,

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the intention here is not to expand her role, but to clarify publicly, formally what I feel. She's already doing

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Plainfield VT Select Board: for us in this. In our position. Which is Denise village expansion is the Select Board's purview to handle all real estate transactions, and she is negotiating on our behalf to help achieve these real estate transactions necessary to achieve the project.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and I'm wanting to clarify that publicize that. Formalize that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And I thought our attorney was handling those negotiations. My

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Plainfield VT Select Board: my concern and suggestion had been that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I appreciate Sandy's role and her efforts and whatnot. But I my preference would be to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: have her accountable to the Expansion Committee or one of their work groups, such as the lot sales group, or whatever whatever the fit is, and that whatever ideas and suggestions they have gets vetted by that committee. And then the committee makes their recommendations to us, I'm, concerned that we're setting up a

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Plainfield VT Select Board: parallel track here, anyway,

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Plainfield VT Select Board: yes, Dan, well, I think that would. I guess it depends on obviously what the work scope is. But specifically you, you, Peter, when we wrote the Eva Eac scope of work

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Plainfield VT Select Board: specifically did not include re, lands land sale that's buying us buying land and some of those pieces. So the so I think for us. So I think that this

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it seems like the intention is to say.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Sandra, who's already started talking with some of these landowners previous to the vac would still be somebody that would be working with us on that, and it would be outside of the Evac. And that's why I'm curious about why it says Evac would be

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Plainfield VT Select Board: checked with, because it's actually for stuff that's outside of their purview. So that's what my confusion is. I can clarify. So, for example, in

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Plainfield VT Select Board: negotiating with the tenant of the knows lot. If there, if there is promised in that negotiation, for example, a lot

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in the project that is not something that she has authority to offer unless it is checked with the Evac.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Why not? We would have to, I think, approve it. Yeah, all parties, I mean, it says it says all parties. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I see Michael's hand. Michael. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I also wanted to add that in the group, or the parties that are all actively involved in the Expansion Committee, and I'm not aware of everybody. But I would say that at this point Sandy is the only currently licensed architect involved with the project, in other words, in terms of her standing as an active agent wherever she might be needed. And I'm not trying to suggest any role that she should take, but just that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: her professional standing at this point having had already put in what? 12 to 1,500 HI think she once told me, in terms of negotiating and talking through each of the possible transactions in the future. The people would express interest in one way or another to have needs met with regard to the East Village expansion. I'm saying only that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it's not just her experience and her relationships that she's built with everyone from state agencies right through to the individual landowners, but also she might be

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Plainfield VT Select Board: best in power to do certain things on behalf of the Select Board. We're talking specifically here about the acquisition of the properties. Yeah, that that alone. Yeah, yeah. I'm not talking about architecture or anything. And I do understand that, Peter. I was thinking rather that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: as an agent for the Select Board, her being a licensed architect may assist the process of yeah for me, I think if if Sandra wanted to help with the architecture and other things like we have subcommittees of the vac, that would be. No, no, I know. I'm just saying like, I think that would be great, and she should volunteer her her time if she has the time, and there's the the want on the subcommittees.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it. It feels like to me. And there's without getting into any of the negotiations like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Sandra has some of these relationships and some of the knowledge for some of there's, you know, there's 3. There's multiple pieces of land we're looking at and so it feels like we as a select board through through executive session and other ways, can just like we are instructing our lawyer to go talk to this person or negotiate that could do the same with Sandra. I don't know that we.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: because there's no cost to it. I don't know that we actually have to like. I mean, it's good that people know that we, you know, when people volunteer there, when people volunteer and want to help we if we give them, we may give them stuff to do. But I I don't know if this role as a liaison role needs to be this well defined

444
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Plainfield VT Select Board: because we're not like defining

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Plainfield VT Select Board: like, there are other people that have worked on the project and have whole different parts. We're not defining all of their roles. I think it's in respect to the sensitivity of the information and relationships that she's carrying and holding on behalf of the Select Board

446
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Plainfield VT Select Board: is why the extra special like container for for service.

447
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Plainfield VT Select Board: She's she's holding

448
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Plainfield VT Select Board: select board information. You're saying she was she she was included by our attorney following the executive session. He included her, and then, meanwhile, part of the purchase and sale agreements involves the negotiations that she alone is holding with the tenant of the knowles lot

449
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Plainfield VT Select Board: have did you all see that exchange?

450
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Plainfield VT Select Board: What exchange that? With that

451
01:08:49.180 --> 01:08:57.330
Plainfield VT Select Board: Sammy had responded to Brian. And then Brian responded to her, and basically, Yeah, I

452
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I we can't talk about this here. But

453
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Plainfield VT Select Board: did you feel it was under inappropriate somehow. I

454
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I cannot

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Plainfield VT Select Board: find the words to say publicly here. We're talking about stuff that occurred in executive as a result of the executive session. So I cannot.

456
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm struck. I'm struggling to find

457
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Plainfield VT Select Board: What is the what is the impetus to to make this motion.

458
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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, make this motion. Now

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think it is required a response to the calls for transparency around this process. I think it is also in response to calls for

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Plainfield VT Select Board: containing the labor or the to everybody, acknowledge that Sandy, in her

461
01:10:00.390 --> 01:10:04.960
Plainfield VT Select Board: passion and enthusiasm, to see that people who need

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Plainfield VT Select Board: housing have a place to land

463
01:10:08.060 --> 01:10:20.560
Plainfield VT Select Board: that her efforts sometimes go faster than the committee's efforts. That was true from the previous steering committee. And now this Evia Committee

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and so it is.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Excuse me.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, it is in an effort to kind of

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Plainfield VT Select Board: draw boundaries around her efforts. It is to limit her activities rather than expand them.

468
01:10:39.790 --> 01:10:49.989
Plainfield VT Select Board: Insensitivity to the concerns expressed by other stakeholders in this proceeding, that she exceeds her authority.

469
01:10:50.510 --> 01:10:53.350
Plainfield VT Select Board: Meanwhile she is already involved.

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01:10:53.860 --> 01:11:10.110
Plainfield VT Select Board: Therefore, how do we acknowledge that, and also contain or control, not not control, contain her efforts so that they specifically serve the Select Board's needs.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Does that motion? I can't remember all the wording. But does that motion address that

472
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Plainfield VT Select Board: issue? Would you think so? Would you think it would? I don't define. Okay, okay,

473
01:11:26.340 --> 01:11:30.089
Plainfield VT Select Board: because it would seem like, if we're gonna have a motion on it, we it should be.

474
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Do you want me to read it again? Yeah, I guess I would. Please, yeah. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or you can let me read it, I know, but I think other people might 1st hearing, and I recognize that there's no casual way for me to get this into the chat. For that I apologize.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Make a motion to establish a liaison role, to support the Select Board specifically with the East village expansion, related agreements and or transactions related to land purchases.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: This volunteer role is meant to coordinate and communicate between connected stakeholders to shore and hold relationships and deliver vital information across the web of project participants when needed.

478
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Plainfield VT Select Board: They serve at no cost to the town

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Plainfield VT Select Board: with recognition that this role moves between many stakeholders, including legal counsel, it is necessary that it be bound by a sensitive confidentiality, sharing only what and to whom is required or allowed by law.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: depending on the circumstance

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in regard to all information contained. We're in, and remains answerable to the select board at all times.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Any offers made in this role must be checked and cleared with all connected stakeholders, including the East Village Expansion Advisory Committee, and be approved by the Select Board.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: This motion includes the appointment of Sandra Witztoon to fill this position.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, it sounds like to me. It defines

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Plainfield VT Select Board: what we want of her efforts.

487
01:12:59.384 --> 01:13:02.380
Plainfield VT Select Board: That was the intent. Yeah, that's the intent

488
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean, the motion was made and seconded.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Perhaps we call the vote.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I do. I wanna make sure we don't have a more discussion. Yeah, I do wonder if

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in the second sentence, this volunteer role is meant to coordinate, communicate between connected stakeholders to shore and hold relationships and deliver vital information across the web of project participants

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Plainfield VT Select Board: when needed, could say when directed by the select board.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I just I want to make sure that there's a clear and for for anyone who's who's volunteering their time, that they are clear on like if they're gonna ask the select board that that they're clearly doing that. So what what is the instead of when needed? I would say when directed by the select board?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

495
01:14:00.890 --> 01:14:09.360
Plainfield VT Select Board: And when does she communicate with the Select Board, and when does she communicate with the committee?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think the the only time to communicate with the committee because she's working for us is when anything she might be promising in the negotiations

497
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Plainfield VT Select Board: affects the design and or lot sales. That right now is the purview of the Ev.

498
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Plainfield VT Select Board: So that she can't promise anything that we or she can't deliver. That's the intention. But she checks in with them when she starts making promises.

499
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Do you feel like it's happened. No, okay, I mean, this is all we are. We are engaging in the journey together, and no deals have been made, no purchase sale agreements have been signed. You know there is. We're still in that exploration.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So in your mind, I'm just trying to clarify in my mind what what we're asking here

501
01:15:20.870 --> 01:15:25.069
Plainfield VT Select Board: she would be continuing pretty much the work she's been doing

502
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Plainfield VT Select Board: to try to move things forward.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and she is very passionate about it, and she has made a lot of connections, and she knows a lot of folks.

504
01:15:34.740 --> 01:15:37.399
Plainfield VT Select Board: But we're we're saying is we'd like her to be

505
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Plainfield VT Select Board: more involved with our with us.

506
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Plainfield VT Select Board: So we know what's going on, because that was one of the concerns last meeting was.

507
01:15:45.400 --> 01:15:49.720
Plainfield VT Select Board: we don't know as much as we'd like to about what is happening.

508
01:15:50.160 --> 01:15:52.569
Plainfield VT Select Board: and this would be a way to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we could call her in, in other words, and

510
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Plainfield VT Select Board: have her give us a report, or

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or if it's something that's sensitive. We could have an executive session with her

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Plainfield VT Select Board: about a purchase, you know something that she sees as an opportunity. Yes, and I see the need for greater coordination

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Plainfield VT Select Board: of effort and communication.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And I see none of us in that role already. I see her in that role that if we asked her to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: like, really step into her role. I think she could be even more effective right now she's operating outside of any formal

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Plainfield VT Select Board: agreement.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And so yeah, this is to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: help us get the coordination we need across this complex web of relationship that is holding the future of this project.

519
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:53.089
Plainfield VT Select Board: and by that you mean the real estate sales

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and the and the okay? Yes, just, for example, the tenant of the Knowles Law, the Knowles lot is required for is ultimately required to be

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Plainfield VT Select Board: a sewage transfer station. That is the only available site on the entire parcel. To have gravity fed sewage sewage flow into the system

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Plainfield VT Select Board: to miss. That is, many tens of thousands of dollars in increased

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Plainfield VT Select Board: construction costs, and many, many tens of 1,000 in maintain maintenance costs of the system. If it's not gravity fed

524
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Plainfield VT Select Board: the I know I and I don't. I'm I need to be sensitive that I can't get into the this. I don't want to. No, no, I. So I wasn't asking for all this. So I I just want to like. So

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Plainfield VT Select Board: just there's the real estate purchases.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and that's what you're talking about coordinating. I want to make sure. It's clear that we have a whole committee of 11 people that are coordinating the whole project. That's true, and that this person is not coordinating the whole project. From what you just said out loud before when I asked the question that I just wanna make sure, because I you know everything that goes on with this project is parsed very closely by by folks in town. And so I just I just want to make sure we're we're being very clear.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: You're you're talking about coordinating very specific.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Real estate purchases.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think it's the agreements behind the purchases. The purchases are our purview. Yes, but I'm just saying, like coordinating details, to get to a point where we can make the purchase. That's what they're coordinating. They are not coordinating all the stakeholders for the the whole project.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: just for these very discrete

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Plainfield VT Select Board: real estate purchases. True, okay. And we have an attorney who's going to execute those true. And and then you're thinking that with this.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: with confidentiality specifically being in it, then, for example, if we have an executive session about the real estate purchases that Brian Amona's our attorney is in. Sandy could also be there and be in the conversation. If you, if we don't have her kind of listed in a confidential role. She would not be able to be in those conversations, because then, I mean, she would have no requirement to keep it confidential.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate the discussion. I would urge all of us to review the

534
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Emails from Brian Ammons and Sandy, that occurred since our executive session to look at the specific

535
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Plainfield VT Select Board: situation. That came up in relation to these negotiations.

536
01:20:01.121 --> 01:20:06.470
Plainfield VT Select Board: Could you forward that, because the last one I'm seeing does not have any kind of flags in it

537
01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:10.750
Plainfield VT Select Board: like issues.

538
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:19.839
Plainfield VT Select Board: The last. The last communication I see from our attorney does not have anything that would make me think that there would be a problem

539
01:20:20.360 --> 01:20:22.960
Plainfield VT Select Board: which is what I feel like. You're vaguely saying.

540
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Plainfield VT Select Board: oh, I thought it was very clear, so you may not be looking at the right. That's why I'm asking for you to forward it. Well, and what I where I was going with. This was, I'm wondering if we're under any timeline to approve this tonight, but maybe postpone until our next meeting. I'm not sure we lose anything

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Plainfield VT Select Board: in in 2 weeks.

542
01:20:48.910 --> 01:20:53.339
Plainfield VT Select Board: There might be something lost in the relationship with

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the tenant of the Knowles law.

544
01:21:00.340 --> 01:21:14.070
Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean. Brian did speak specifically to that situation. Right? He's had conversations with them right with Knowles, not the tenant, not the tenant. And in response to Sam.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, right? Right.

546
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Plainfield VT Select Board: That's that's the exchange that I would urge you to reread.

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01:21:27.580 --> 01:21:30.950
Plainfield VT Select Board: I would move that we postpone this until our next meeting.

548
01:21:31.230 --> 01:21:34.949
Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't think you can make a motion while we're already in a moment. Yeah, you're in a motion. But

549
01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:43.290
Plainfield VT Select Board: we've already had a 1st and a second. We're in the discussion before motion to postpone, I believe, according to Robert's rules, takes precedence.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: That's your call, Carl. Can we table? It

551
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Plainfield VT Select Board: would suggest you do it to a time certain which would be to next meeting. So we could postpone till the next meeting. Essentially the same thing. If you table without a specific time, it's basically

552
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Plainfield VT Select Board: it sounds like, there's some information it sounds like there's some information which and I don't recall the one that you're referring to, either.

553
01:22:16.510 --> 01:22:18.030
Plainfield VT Select Board: That we should review.

554
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean. On the other hand, if the votes are here to pass the motion I'm perfectly happy to be in the minority on this one

555
01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:36.740
Plainfield VT Select Board: that's up to you folks, you can call a question and vote.

556
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Why don't we vote?

557
01:22:42.180 --> 01:22:52.890
Plainfield VT Select Board: All those in favor of the motion say, aye, bye, bye, opposed

558
01:22:55.898 --> 01:22:57.970
Plainfield VT Select Board: 4, 4, 1 against.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you all. I'd still like to see that if you would if you could forward that.

560
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:08.359
Plainfield VT Select Board: I I don't know why I didn't see it then, okay, thank you.

561
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Plainfield VT Select Board: You thought what I thought we had a comment up here. There's questions along the way, I think. Oh, I don't. I don't know how to respond to Betsy's question.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I was the liaison to

563
01:23:25.820 --> 01:23:46.833
Plainfield VT Select Board: the East Hill Committee, but we're not. We don't. But yeah, the old one. We don't have an official, I mean the that's my understanding. The Evac is a committee of the town, and so there's no liaison. It's they report to us. Yeah. They gave a report already tonight. Yeah, yeah, okay,

564
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Plainfield VT Select Board: all right, let's talk about derelict properties in town. Let's do that.

565
01:23:52.820 --> 01:23:55.540
Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't know who brought this forward.

566
01:23:56.770 --> 01:24:01.019
Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean, I think this is connected to the 9 9 Main Street.

567
01:24:01.220 --> 01:24:09.820
Plainfield VT Select Board: inclusive of but not limited to. Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch. There's a bunch. There's some that are being bought out theoretically through Fema

568
01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:12.679
Plainfield VT Select Board: that are really derelict

569
01:24:14.730 --> 01:24:19.510
Plainfield VT Select Board: and then there's some that just are letting. Is there a time on that particular

570
01:24:20.427 --> 01:24:23.720
Plainfield VT Select Board: while the ones along Main Street I mean the

571
01:24:24.830 --> 01:24:33.810
Plainfield VT Select Board: School street, I believe, or they're approved. And they've actually been appraised. They've been appraised. Okay, so they're moved along another step.

572
01:24:34.470 --> 01:24:36.780
Plainfield VT Select Board: They haven't all decided what to do.

573
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Plainfield VT Select Board: So the owners, now it's their decision to decide to take the offer, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and who pays for the demolition. It's the fema. It's fema right. State will pay for the demolition state fees.

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01:24:51.410 --> 01:25:19.939
Plainfield VT Select Board: Town will still have to sign up one more step which you've already preliminarily signed actually, last year to maintain the property as an undeveloped area that will cost something in the sense that the National Park Service, which you know we're going to give us some help in in figuring out what to do with that abandoned land. Removal of the buildings. The demolition and removal of the buildings is going to be paid for by this.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And so a comment from Yoko online 100 foot road is mine, and I've not yet as a point of information. Yeah. And so the School Street properties are from the 2023 flood, right? And so this is, we're talking about

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Plainfield VT Select Board: folks who were affected by the 2023 floods getting their appraisals and moving one step forward 2024 is still. There's farther farther behind in the process, although, interestingly enough, the money to pay for the 2024 floods is coming from 2023. There's unexpended state funds being used, which is why they can move so much faster.

578
01:25:58.470 --> 01:26:03.960
Plainfield VT Select Board: Then the 2024 flood might have indicated it would, because the money's

579
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Plainfield VT Select Board: been obligated doesn't mean it's here, but it's been obligated to pay for those properties. 10 of the properties have been informed that they are going to be bought out

580
01:26:14.030 --> 01:26:21.990
Plainfield VT Select Board: 17 properties, I think 15 to 70 properties are still waiting for that word which could be any day.

581
01:26:22.130 --> 01:26:29.220
Plainfield VT Select Board: and then each of them will wait for their appraisal, and then they will determine whether or not they wish to take a buyout.

582
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Plainfield VT Select Board: So I think I think this conversation, this agenda item, is speaking to the pressure that the Select Board is feeling from the town of Plainfield

583
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Plainfield VT Select Board: about

584
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Plainfield VT Select Board: we don't yet have a housing committee for playing field. If we did, those most vocal on the subject are talking about the derelict houses in the stock on the master list. Something. Meanwhile there's additional context of the town clerk over the last month and a half angling toward increased ability to ticket

585
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Plainfield VT Select Board: right? And so we're looking for accountability focus and like positive action on derelict housing. And then came through our came to our collective attention the issue of potentially rabid raccoons living behind 99 main

586
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Plainfield VT Select Board: terrorizing neighbors, on either side, either and both sides

587
01:27:28.690 --> 01:27:52.179
Plainfield VT Select Board: mostly on one side. And so I think we're here to acknowledge the public problem and the specific threat of the raccoons in 99 main. Am. I speaking like, well for us, yeah, before we get into the specifics of 99, main, do we? Have we heard anything back from the Council on Rural development as to when

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Plainfield VT Select Board: they may do the Forum on

589
01:27:56.910 --> 01:28:02.849
Plainfield VT Select Board: housing this summer, late July is what we agreed to, but not a specific date

590
01:28:03.080 --> 01:28:05.950
Plainfield VT Select Board: like in that proposal. It said, late July.

591
01:28:07.260 --> 01:28:15.800
Plainfield VT Select Board: So very well, go ahead. Can you identify yourself, please.

592
01:28:19.240 --> 01:28:20.540
Plainfield VT Select Board: and I have to push it out.

593
01:28:24.490 --> 01:28:38.009
Plainfield VT Select Board: So this is Ann Vancouvering. I live on 87, main I think one of the problems that we ran into with the whole raccoon thing was that

594
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Plainfield VT Select Board: nobody could do anything.

595
01:28:41.630 --> 01:28:44.210
Plainfield VT Select Board: If the property owner

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Plainfield VT Select Board: didn't take responsibility, the game warden couldn't come. The health officer couldn't do anything so, and there were, you know, no firearms to be discharged in the town. So there was this raccoon

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that was threatening, you know, a family with a toddler and

598
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Plainfield VT Select Board: it there was. There was nothing anybody could do. I mean, I do, I informed the Atkinsons, and they came over, and they did something whether or not I don't know what has been happening since there was. I know there's there's there's action they're taking on it. Whether it's successful we have yet to see, and we have yet to see. But I think that was a wholes.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: because there are some properties along School Street that are not the ones from the flood, but that are fairly derelict that could have similar situations. And it turns out we have holes in our laws about what can be done for public menaces if there are absentee landlords. So that was one of my major concerns. And that's probably what's driving this discussion.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean, you're not the only one who's brought this up. So you know these these are issues we do are concerned about. There are 2 hands raised on Zoom. Amy and Alicia.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: What do you mean?

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Amy's Phone: I came on to listen to the discussion, thinking that this was about the derelict house on School Street, Al Goleman's house, and as I was sitting in my backyard, a raccoon jumped from a tree just now, and I came inside because I was nervous, and I just

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Amy's Phone: sent a message to my neighbors, letting them know to bring their animals in. It looks like it's it doesn't look. It's it's like a baby or a teenager. Maybe it's not a full size, it's probably hungry. It's just like it's just like

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Amy's Phone: I don't know. It was not scared of me at all. And so you know, I talked to the health officer. I talked to Jodi, and she said, You know that the things are moving forward and trying to get something done

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Amy's Phone: but knowing that there were probably 15 kids next door to me having a party at our house like next door, it is very disconcerting that there is this family of reckons, and it's very disconcerting. To see that yellow house falling down, you know. And

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Amy's Phone: and not knowing yeah what what as a town we can do about these things. So I'm curious.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you. Alicia.

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Alicia Weiss: Yeah, I was very happy to see this on the agenda.

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Alicia Weiss: I know we have a lot to deal with as a town. I'm not entirely sure which. Houses on School Road are on the fema buyout list, and I mean, I know about the one Goldsman house I heard there were others. I'm not.

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Alicia Weiss: and from what I understand, we could as a town, are pretty powerless, we can adopt ordinances, but we can't enforce them against the landlords or the owners of derelict buildings, without permission from the or being empowered by the Vermont legislature, due to something called Dylan's law. That's DILL. ONS. Not like Bobby Zimmerman.

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Alicia Weiss: And you know this is potential housing we've lost and are losing, probably with fema buyouts. And then the teardowns. A lot of historic buildings in our town. I don't know if people are aware, but there was

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Alicia Weiss: a bill raised H. 109 in the legislature, which was sent to committee, and died in committee by a number of legislators. I think

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Alicia Weiss: most, if not all, were from the Northeast kingdom that would have provided for ordinances, but they were this ordinance. The proposed ordinance was only for designated downtown, which, after downtowns, which, after communicating with Bram and will, I understand that School Street falls outside of because we don't have multi-use

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Alicia Weiss: they are the businesses. Outer spice and maple fields are

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Alicia Weiss: in Marshfield. But I just think this is something that you know. I think it's outrageous, and it doesn't. You know, we're talking about attracting development attracting businesses. It doesn't look right either, for us, so I'll be quiet now. But thank you for raising this.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thanks.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yes, identify yourself. And please.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm Christy Barnum. I just want to reread a post that I put on front porch Forum on March 11, th and and start by saying, Thank you for putting this on the agenda, because it's something I'm very passionate about. I've been a resident for with, you know, part of playing field that my family has for decades. I won't tell you how many.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and my post says, to recover from the floods and revitalize our town. We will need to attract investment, to build housing and infrastructure and to restore economic vitality. How will we be successful in securing those resources if we aren't fanning an interest in investing in ourselves.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: if you have no interest or ability to keep your property from falling into disrepair, sitting vacant and idle for years decaying into rubble. Please post it for sale, so that folks with the capacity to do so can make it habitable again, or raise it to build new. Imagine how far 2.5 million could take us in restoring idle properties where infrastructure already exists and bringing those units back online.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So I just, I think it's really important to think about with the limited resources we have money and and bodies

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that we really target those those resources to areas where we can make quick impacts. And you know, as I enter the gateway of this town

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Plainfield VT Select Board: from both sides, it's it's so devastating to see where this has gone, and then, maybe as a caveat. To this, it used to be in our town reports that we were able to see those folks that were delinquent in their tax responsibilities.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: and I haven't seen such a list in a long, long time. Maybe it's less public than it used to be, but the town does have an ability to take action if the responsibilities of their tax obligations are not being met, and that is certainly one way that the town can intervene.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you, Christian.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Go ahead, Mike. I wanted to say that there's

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that some of the properties on School Street have been

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Plainfield VT Select Board: vacant for quite some time. Many people are aware what those properties are. 4 of them have one same owner.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: We've been really concerned, as of

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Plainfield VT Select Board: 2 years ago, I believe about one property that probably should be condemned, which is sitting on a sort of a constructed culvert that's part of the building itself and actually gets over. It's not big enough, and we don't know how to go forward with that. I do know that I believe all the taxes are paid on these properties, but the the ability to act on a building that is actually in danger of collapse and has constrict stream flow under. It

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Plainfield VT Select Board: is something also that hopefully could be addressed by either changes in ordinance or by specifically identifying it in relation to certain State laws.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thanks. There's 2 hands on mine, Noella and Betsy Noella. First.st

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Noella Krakowski: Hello! It's actually Adam Krakowski!

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

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Noella Krakowski: I'm the homeowner at 109 Main Street, and the family that's been affected with the raccoon situation, and the issue that I ran into was I contacted Jodi to notify her that what had occurred was last Saturday.

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Noella Krakowski: about 7 Am. We actually had a raccoon on our porch, which is a very common circumstance in the last year.

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Noella Krakowski: and I banged the door, which is normally what I do, and normally raccoons will run away from such circumstances. This one actually kind of rather aggressively came up to the screen of the window with my cat in the window. The window was shut, but still, you know, went on the screen. And it basically had this noticeable tick to it that it kept twitching its head to one side.

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Noella Krakowski: And you know, finally, you know, we we went to get a camera and it ran off, and we thought the circumstance was done, and about 10 min later another circumstance, you know, the raccoon came back, and I actually took video of it outside and then reported it to Jody, because it's a noticeably aggressive behavior with a nervous tick, and it was growling and screeching. At about 7 30 in the morning

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Noella Krakowski: I contacted Jody, the town health officer, who said that there was nothing that could really be done except contacting the game warden, a gentleman by the name of Dustin. I contacted Dustin and basically got told that he is overextended, covering 17 to 18 towns.

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Noella Krakowski: and that the only that I'm within my rights of shooting the animal or killing the animal. But I have to identify that it is the the one that we believe is rabid. And

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Noella Krakowski: Dustin. I sent him the the video I took, and he agreed that it was very aggressive and not a normal behavior.

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Noella Krakowski: and we've set up have a heart traps and so forth. But I got told by Dustin that I should buy a gun and shoot it.

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Noella Krakowski: And then I got told by Jodi, after I reported to her what Dustin told me, that there's no firearms allowed discharged in the village which basically left me as a homeowner going great! I can't do anything.

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Noella Krakowski: and I'm extremely frustrated. We're at the point that with our 16 month old, daughter, she is. We do not take her outside till after 8 Am. And I go outside 1st to look around.

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Noella Krakowski: and we do not. You know we don't stay out past 6 pm. And there's been instances where I fired up the grill to cook a meal, and we're talking 6, 6, 30 in the evening, and the raccoon. And I have a video of this as well. A different raccoon literally was attacking the table and the grill, and it's become almost incessant.

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Noella Krakowski: And I don't know. As a homeowner I'm frustrated at what I can do and how limited my abilities are, and I don't see any.

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Noella Krakowski: you know recourse except basically taking matters in my own hands.

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Noella Krakowski: So

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Noella Krakowski: I would like, you know, to some consideration, you know, with the town moving forward for some type of

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Noella Krakowski: ordinance or something in, because in some of these circumstances of the properties around that aren't affected by the fema buyouts, there's dilapidated structures. There's, you know, something where I'm rather shocked having moved, you know, 15 plus years ago, from a different state, that the town doesn't have the ability to revoke a certificate of occupancy for a house that's found to be hazardous, to be inhabited.

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Noella Krakowski: So I'm I'm basically in limbo. We have have a heart set up. There's have a heart set up at 99

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Noella Krakowski: main.

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Noella Krakowski: and you know it's just a matter of if the traps work or not, and then what do we do afterwards.

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Noella Krakowski: So, anyhow, thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you, Adam. That is distressing.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I hadn't realized that it had been quite so.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Such a problem. Betsy has a handout, Betsy. Yeah, go ahead.

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Betsy Ziegler: Oh, thank you, and thanks, Adam. I hope that can be addressed

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Betsy Ziegler: sooner than later. I think people need to be able to enjoy living in Vermont in the summer and

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Betsy Ziegler: taking care of our village. Taking care of our whole town is is going to make a difference. I'm sure. I believe our property values have gone down and continue to go down when we have route 2 School Street area looking so derelict. I think people on the the eastern, the western side of the intersection. I've seen people painting houses

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Betsy Ziegler: in garden, you know, some gardens, some plants and gardens, you know, whatever that makes a difference, and if you can't paint your house you don't have the money to do that. You can have maybe the money to do some gardening, and we're going to soon. Here at Littlewood Farm. Have some free flowers available for people where I'm working on a church garden, you know, beautifying the community in the summer makes a big difference, and I hope that the housing that's abandoned

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Betsy Ziegler: is not a home to raccoons and other, you know, unwanted critters. I know right down right down on

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Betsy Ziegler: at heartbreak. As far as I know, the door is still open, the place is still open, you know. It's dangerous. It looks really bad. I'm embarrassed when people come, so I hope we can continue to do the little bit. The stuff that we can to make our our community look better, and hopefully be more livable.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thanks.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: yeah, I just the 1 1 thing I want to mention is, we do have a revolving loan fund in town

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which is designed to help maintain historic buildings.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It's it's administered by the town. There's funds there. So and we're hoping to get that enlarged

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Plainfield VT Select Board: so people that can't afford to paint their homes will have a way to help pay for that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: at a reduced right. It's not a grant it's borrowing, but it's reduced interest rate.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I see. Bob and Becky are on the phone on the zoom. Do you want to add anything, Bob? Because it. We seem to be focused on raccoons.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh, there it goes!

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Of the Jew.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Yeah, I'm

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I can only share what I talked to you about today, and that's that we put a have a heart trap out there. We've

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): gone through the house. We didn't see any evidence of raccoon

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): inhabitation in in the the main part of the house that's on the street curiously.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): The have a hard trap. Has 3 days in a row, had bait missing from it.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and the trapdoor triggered, and nothing in it, so I I don't know

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): what's going on, you know. I've reviewed the instructions.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and they're they're pretty foolproof, you know. Once the door comes down, there's a race.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): It goes against it so you can't get out.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): But I'm I'm just puzzled.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and I don't know whether one of the people that I talked to had thought that.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): You know they were in burdened to come over and take stuff out of the trap. But I haven't.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I haven't seen anything happening there.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I want to get together with the neighbors who are on the on the line now. But

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): because I want to put up a a little motion sensor light on one side, and

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and maybe in the breeze way out back to at least illuminate.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): If if there's a problem where they're coming from.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and the next thing we want to do is get the garage closed up. We got to move some material around in there.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): so we can close it up.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Do do exterminators have permission to come on your property, Bob.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Such as whom?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm I'm just asking if if exterminators were to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: wanna get onto your property. Is that okay?

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I'll I'll check with Becky, but I don't think it's a problem.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay.

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Becky Atchinson: We? We haven't hired anybody to to be an exterminator. If that's what you mean.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: No, I know that. I know that.

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Becky Atchinson: Okay.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: If we're looking to get there. Apparently there was some issues of permission to get onto the property, and we just want to make sure we clarify if that's okay.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I didn't hear about those issues.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Question.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Rose has a question. Yes, I'm kind of curious what the end game is for a have a heart trap with a rabbit animal.

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Becky Atchinson: Yeah, have a hard stop with it.

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Becky Atchinson: According to computer flawed, the has to be.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): He's nice.

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Becky Atchinson: And then it can be taken to the.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Rabies, hotline folks which are in Montpelier and you're interested in.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): They have to do a an autopsy which involves examination of the brain.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): So you have to be careful if you're going to shoot the animal. This is from information from Peter Flood, who's a trapper in Barrie.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and if if you're not careful when you euthanize the animal, and

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): you know, damage the the brain which has to be examined to see if it's rabid, then

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): it's a lost cause.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): But the rabies hotline folks will come out and pick up a carcass if you suspect.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And I and I would

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I. I do feel a need to remind everyone we do have a no firearm ordinance in the village.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Right.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So that is not a I mean, I guess I'm also wondering if the animal can't be tested for rabies unless they're dead.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: It seems like we could remove a step the euthanasia step of catching them in a have a heart trap.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean. It seems like extermination. I mean, I saw a video of this raccoon. It was one of the raccoons, and it was indeed behaving quite erratically.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And so yeah, I guess if

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Plainfield VT Select Board: we seem to be talking about extermination, and even to test for rabies. They have to be killed.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So I guess I'm just wondering how can we streamline the solution set here.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So what you're saying is

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Plainfield VT Select Board: so what you're saying is, why user have a heart trap?

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Why don't we just not have a heart? Well, I don't know. What do you do, though? I mean, what else are you going to do? We can use kill traps, a kill trap. Okay, all right. What Barry was saying is, if the animal's too large, the have a heart will close. So yeah.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): It's the it's the proper size.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Have a heart that we're using.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: The other. The one other piece is that the raccoons are living under the building, not in the building.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, thank you for.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): We looked all over the building. Just for your assurance.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you for bringing it the attention. I don't know how quite how we proceed on this, but it sounds like we need to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: somehow did mention that he called an exterminator. He didn't. That was a dot. Dot. He called an exterminator. I don't know that

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Plainfield VT Select Board: any services were asked for. Bram is tracking this and holding at least a piece of this. Yeah, right? That's the Peter flooding.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, it's the same person here.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean, I think to me that's the next step

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the professionals really need to deal with this. We can't have.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: homeowners having to deal with it. And so I think if there is want for Select Board authorization to bottom line that I don't. So here is where, if we had an ordinance that said the property owners are responsible.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: This would be a moment where we could say, You know, please be responsible and fall in an exterminator.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or in in the absence of that do? Are we kind of treating this as a town menace on Main Street, and authorizing the the hiring of an exterminator

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Plainfield VT Select Board: for the issuance of a permit.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: a permitive what to take out the raccoon, the killer? I couldn't.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I don't know. We have to have a permit for that. I don't think we have latitude in our no shooting in village to exempt things from it, so I mean, exterminators could use other trends of traps or do other things, but I don't think they're going to, you know. Use a gun. I don't think that's something that's going to be unless we change the town laws around gun use. I'm just fine about no guns in town, thank you. Bob Atkinson has hands up. Yeah, Bob.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Yeah, peter Floyd told me that. Yes, he uses have a hard traps.

747
01:51:58.686 --> 01:52:07.030
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): That he takes the animal away. They put a you transport it within the trap, and you

748
01:52:08.140 --> 01:52:14.950
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): take it to some place where you can operate a firearm, and then he carefully

749
01:52:15.220 --> 01:52:19.350
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): uses whatever he said. He shoots him so, but he shoots him

750
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): carefully enough so that he doesn't ruin the brain, which then wants to be examined.

751
01:52:24.930 --> 01:52:28.500
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): examined by the rabies folks. So

752
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): that's about all I know about it. The other quick comment I have is that we don't have any food in that house, and I don't know

753
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): what's the attraction

754
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): to, you know. Accept that there's not people pounding on the floors, turning on lights, playing music, whatever

755
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:54.329
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): you know. So if if if that's the issue. Then

756
01:52:54.500 --> 01:53:04.839
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I would like to put some motion sensor lights on for the outside, anyway, but I will tell you that the ones on our deck don't seem to dissuade

757
01:53:05.180 --> 01:53:09.350
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): a raccoon up here if they want to come and visit in the wintertime.

758
01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:12.550
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): or it's springtime, or whatever you know.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Your neighbor. I don't know, so I'll stand up again.

760
01:53:16.400 --> 01:53:19.869
Plainfield VT Select Board: Adam has his hand up again. Adam. Yeah, go ahead.

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Noella Krakowski: Just to relay what Dustin the game warden had stated to me was that he legally would be able to use a firearm, being a State liaison with the State trooper, but I would have to be physically present to identify

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Noella Krakowski: the particular raccoon. It was really this crazy, you know.

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Noella Krakowski: you know, covering 18 towns. He doesn't know the the different laws of each town, but basically that was his statement to me. And he, you know, effectively wished me luck, because with his work hours it was unlikely that the you know, the raccoon would be present.

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Noella Krakowski: so.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, it's either it sounds like it's either a kill trap or have a heart trap and taken away and dispatch somewhere else

766
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Plainfield VT Select Board: to be. That's what it sounds like. How do professional services be been retained? And if so, by whom?

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01:54:22.044 --> 01:54:29.270
Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, Bob, are you contracting with Peter Flood, or you just got him got advice from Peter, and are doing your own traffic.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): So far I've just gotten the advice, but you know I'm sure I haven't contacted him and told him what's been happening. You know that that the bait is gone, the door is closed, and where's the raccoon?

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): You know? I don't think anybody is

770
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): coming by and releasing the raccoon.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): particularly if there's deemed that there's a trouble

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): going on there. But I'm I'm also concerned about you know. There's

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): in talking with Jody. She says. Well, there's food all over the place, you know whether it's positive pie or if it's people's garbage cans are out by there. It doesn't take much for a raccoon to knock over a garbage can.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): but it's.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Sounds like it sounds like we have a troublesome raccoon that needs to be gotten gotten rid of.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I don't know how many there are that we're talking about.

777
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, there's probably families now. So and there they could all be rabbit.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): That's the other problem at this time.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Right here, anyway.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay. So oh, no.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Problem, Peter Flood stated, is that this time of year the they're with children, with kids.

782
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): And so if you kill the parents, obviously, you got to kill the the

783
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): the kids, too, which are probably not

784
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): old enough now to navigate their way down to find their way into a trap.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think a professional is needed.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I mean, I don't know how else you do it. You've you've tried a lot of things. It sounds like

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Plainfield VT Select Board: the neighbors have had to deal with this for a long time.

789
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Plainfield VT Select Board: But, Bob, it it sounds like the neighbors think that the family lives

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01:56:18.340 --> 01:56:24.539
Plainfield VT Select Board: under the house at 99, not in the house, but maybe somehow dug in under.

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01:56:24.540 --> 01:56:29.149
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): We were in the cellar, you know, and we're we've looked under.

792
01:56:29.150 --> 01:56:37.669
Plainfield VT Select Board: They might not be. They might not be in the cellar, but they could be like under the foundation, or something. The or the crawl space deep.

793
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Have you thought about bringing Peter to the house to figure out where they're coming from? And and about.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): That's probably the next thing you know.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): and just be prepared to write the big check.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, yeah, it's part of being a landlord. Right?

797
01:56:58.470 --> 01:57:00.099
Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah. I mean, it may maybe.

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01:57:00.100 --> 01:57:02.690
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Not a landlord on that property. I'm just an owner.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: As well.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, maybe establish your commitment to hire an exterminator to deal with the Raccoons at 99 main.

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01:57:12.830 --> 01:57:13.580
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Sure.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Thank you.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Is that a.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: That was a question, and I heard a yes and an answer. Thank you.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Before we move off I will say, Peter, you had reached out to Vermont League of cities and towns about derelict buildings in general. I don't know if you remember this, but we got a response from them. There's not a lot of. There's not great great options, but there are some options, including, we could look at a dangerous and vacant building ordinance

806
01:57:42.448 --> 01:58:00.069
Plainfield VT Select Board: and so maybe we should look more into that. The model language that he sent you did not go through to the thing you forwarded. So I don't. I don't see that. But there is potential model language for a dangerous and vacant building ordinance that would ask for, you know, instruct owners to either do repairs or clean up

807
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Plainfield VT Select Board: and then they're similar to other ordinances would then be the ticketing process. If they don't follow through. There is some stuff out there. I know the town of Milton has such an ordinance with one of the places, and I think I'm trying to recall Jody Velardi. I think, also referenced those in one of her responses.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah. And there's also beyond that we don't have a building inspector. But for towns without a building inspector. There are also ways for health orders to prevent, remove, or destroy any public health hazard, so I don't know if we want to try to investigate with Jodi

809
01:58:37.174 --> 01:58:53.370
Plainfield VT Select Board: what our options are, and how we like not. Not this raccoon issue today, but with just the word ordinance has come up several times, and we come, and we come back to the issue of enforcement of ordinances. Municipal ticketing. Yes, and talking to Bram

810
01:58:53.370 --> 01:59:16.710
Plainfield VT Select Board: last meeting or meeting. Before that, that, we need to take a look at all our ordinances that we want enforced to make sure that they are in enforceable. But that's a project that somebody needs to take on. And that's not gonna happen overnight, you know. And so, like, I think what can happen overnight is to focus on getting a professional in to deal

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Plainfield VT Select Board: with the raccoons here. But if we're talking about a larger project, you know, back to the Housing Committee and looking at

812
01:59:25.440 --> 01:59:55.249
Plainfield VT Select Board: the derelict houses in town for lack of a better term as potential new housing or restored housing to address part of the housing crisis. That's again another, a bigger, a bigger discussion, but an appropriate one. Yeah. But I think derelict houses is more than just a housing conversation. It is a public health conversation. And so, even if for some reason folks in town didn't think it was a good solution for our housing issues, we should be looking at it from a from a safety of the town perspective. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: yeah. I mean, little kids tend to explore things. I know I was one once, and and you know, if you have falling down porches and rotting floorboards and things like that. People can get hurt. And then the landowners liable. And you know,

814
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Plainfield VT Select Board: yeah, I would like to see. I'd like, yeah anything else on this.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think I think we'll let Bob and Becky deal with the exterminator and hope that

816
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Plainfield VT Select Board: gets folks so they can use their outdoors and

817
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Plainfield VT Select Board: as far as the other other. What's what's that, Bob?

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I'm I'm just puzzled, because, let's say, the.

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Becky Atchinson: Exterminator, con.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): And takes out

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Becky Atchinson: You know a family of raccoons 6, 7, whatever, 3 to 4.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): How many there are. And then

823
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): what happens? You know, rinse and repeat.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, I mean.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): People continue to to bait them by leaving food out

826
02:01:09.780 --> 02:01:14.770
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): putting stuff that should be composted in trash barrels.

827
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): And Jodi told me she says, you know I can get up and go to work in the morning, and

828
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): you know, see dead rats in the street in front of Positive 5, for example, you know, when they

829
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): when they talk about. If

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): you could legally transport a raccoon to different territory they talk about it being at least 5 miles away. Well, you know I'm I'm telling you that if there's an abandoned house on Brook Street

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): it can roam all over the the downtown village, I would think, looking for food.

832
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): So we, you know, we not only have to.

833
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): You want to eliminate the raccoons.

834
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): but, you know, have to keep

835
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): them from being attracted to come all over again.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): You know it's it's not cheap to hire Peter Flood. It's 30 bucks to set a trap, and it's 65 bucks for every animal he traps

837
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): that builds up in a hurry.

838
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): So I'm I'm you know I don't. I don't want to be the attractive nuisance in town, but

839
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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): they've got to eat something, and it's not coming from our house.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: No, but it sounds like they're living at your house under your house.

841
02:02:39.100 --> 02:02:40.970
Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): I don't know. I haven't seen them in.

842
02:02:41.610 --> 02:02:54.770
Plainfield VT Select Board: Neighbors the neighbors have reported, I mean neighbors who are living there have seen them coming in and out, so maybe you should talk to the neighbors, and they can maybe show you where they're living and and have and have flood. Take a look at your property, perhaps

843
02:02:55.100 --> 02:02:57.490
Plainfield VT Select Board: even just the 15 else for an estimate.

844
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Becky Atchinson: You know.

845
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think we need to. We need to move on. I'm afraid we we're already almost half an hour over.

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Bob Atchinson (he, him, his): Thank you all.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, thanks. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Thank you, folks, for coming in.

848
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Plainfield VT Select Board: We will be talking about derelict housing

849
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Plainfield VT Select Board: and try to figure out something that's not gonna be fast, but

850
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Plainfield VT Select Board: for people that want to live in their home and want to fix it up. There is a revolving Loan fund. So I'd suggest that

851
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I I'm suggest, I'm gonna suggest, well, I can give a little report on the route. 2 intersection presentation. We we had a presentation last meeting, and there were 3 options, as I recall.

852
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Plainfield VT Select Board: which was to stay with with the contract we've signed with the town, with with V-trans

853
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Plainfield VT Select Board: to abandon the whole idea, or to use a to come up with a a much lesser project

854
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Plainfield VT Select Board: that the State would fund which would improve the intersection, some would increase, would put in a sidewalk with a crosswalk to the Opera House and

855
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Plainfield VT Select Board: and be packaged with the route to it would be surfacing. That's right. It would be part of the couple of years in a couple of years. That's about as fast as we could expect anything.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: My 2029.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: What's that? 2029 was when Patty Coburn, the lady from V trans.

858
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Plainfield VT Select Board: And that's that's as fast as anything we're gonna get done. My my feeling is we should take them up on it, I mean, if it's paid for, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: that's the quickest we can get it done. The 3rd option, just to name the 3rd option, which was

860
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Plainfield VT Select Board: petition for redesign and wait.

861
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Who knows how long to get that determination and get into like a new cycle of relationship with V. Trans, about this intersection. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: So I I called Brian the the fellow who's here

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Plainfield VT Select Board: from good boys and king, and asked him to forward us something that we could respond to, and I haven't seen anything yet. And, Roby, you mean

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Plainfield VT Select Board: no, it wasn't. I'm I'm sorry it was Ken Roby. I'm sorry. Yes, yeah, Ken Roby, and

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Plainfield VT Select Board: it would have to come from b-trans.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: But he was going to follow up, and I haven't heard anything. Yeah. The lady from big transfers. Her name is Patty. Yeah, I have concerns about the you know, removal of the guardrail and the

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Plainfield VT Select Board: retaining wall, because I think Route 2 would tend to then slide down, plus. I still have visions of trucks missing the curve and ending up in Josh's bedroom. But yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: just asking them to the sidewalk on the other side. I mean, we have to allow the engineers to

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Plainfield VT Select Board: sort these things out. But but I I wonder if they'd be open to a you know some of Patty's suggestions here. Which had to do with, you know. And the discussion that night of, you know, people coming here for events, kids coming here for classes, concerts, plays, you know, meetings

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Plainfield VT Select Board: etc, and that I wonder if they, you know, would be open to looking at the crosswalks. The markings they they did, and light and lighting as part of their.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, scaled down project. I they did talk about that.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: And they talked about an illuminated crosswalk sign with a alert sign toward Marshfield

873
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Plainfield VT Select Board: to say that somebody's in a crosswalk.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which to me is about the best you're going to do. Yeah, it's a blind corner, so you need something, and you need something other than a permanent sign, because people tend to ignore permanent signs. You need something that we had, I mean. Patty was talking earlier, like when we when this bridge was closed. We had a traffic light that stopped. It was a red, yellow, green, you know, and people stop. You know. Why? Why could we not deal with a traffic light

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Plainfield VT Select Board: which seems to me much, much less expensive than

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Plainfield VT Select Board: construction. Well, it also slows people down, you know, and you might need more than one. Yeah, you would probably need several, you know, in a couple of places, and you know, I know in the city of Barry by the whispering bench there. The Gazebo, the City Hall Park, whatever it's called.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: All of those lights, and it's a complicated intersection.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: are sensitive enough to record. If like there's any traffic waiting in line. And so that if there is nothing waiting in line, that cycle skips right, it jumps ahead. So like, okay, you know, it could be green green unless there's somebody coming up the hill who needs to come out, and then it would go yellow and and let them go, and then it would turn back on. So it doesn't have to be in like an automatic timing cycle.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: You know, the the technology exists to do it. I. I had some conversations with Steve Mckenzie, the city manager, about that, because they had some problems when it 1st went anywhere. It like sat there for a long time and didn't do anything, or it changed too quickly. But you know they got it. They got it worked out. Yep.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, that would be great. I'm I'm just concerned that to start up another whole new project, an engineering project. No, I think what we want to do is respond to their proposal with some suggestions, and say, Hey, you know.

881
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Plainfield VT Select Board: you know, could you tweak it in the following manner? Could we add lighting? Could we add the crosswalks? Could we add it sooner rather than later? Yeah, what of this plan can get implemented right away? I think we need a I think we need to see the plan, because apparently they've they've produced one.

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02:09:07.190 --> 02:09:18.369
Plainfield VT Select Board: They have. They have a plan for a limited yeah, we have it so. But I would. I wanted to see some documentation in what they would.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: what they would propose to us to let us react to it. Well, should we invite.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or a working group of 2 go meet with her all that all that could be done, I mean I I went to Ken Roby because he was the one who

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Plainfield VT Select Board: came here and made the presentation. But Patty may be the one we need to talk to. Can we just propose that to them? Can we just propose that to them quick.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh, we can, we can. We can propose it. Yeah.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: I think some kind of direct, proactive ask

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Plainfield VT Select Board: or to meet our needs like we have needs here and asking that they be met. Is, I think, a base level response for the select board.

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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, I'd be willing to reach out to Patty and I'll reach out to Ken because I've been. I've talked to him, and and maybe with this Patty, ask for a meeting and say, Hey, you know we're trying to figure out our

890
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Plainfield VT Select Board: formal response to your proposal. So Patty, from Vtrans can walk Patty's grandkids to the library. I mean, I would. Also, I feel curious about town initiatives, citizen initiatives. I don't know. We're at least partially limited by Route 2 as a Federal highway, and they probably don't want us painting murals

891
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Plainfield VT Select Board: on the roadway itself, which is like, which is a strategy to slow traffic, and it works beautifully. And so I guess. I wonder?

892
02:10:46.870 --> 02:10:53.360
Plainfield VT Select Board: You know, are there are there small billboards along the way that are actually just hand? Painted signs?

893
02:10:54.549 --> 02:11:02.780
Plainfield VT Select Board: Well, there are strategies for painting lines on the road where they pinch the road together, and and even though that it doesn't affect them.

894
02:11:02.950 --> 02:11:26.309
Plainfield VT Select Board: the running of an automobile, it it has an emotional and psychological sense. There's all kinds of things, but but they won't do that. We've talked about this in the past. At least they won't. They didn't do it in the past. Maybe they would. Now I know the citizens of playing field are going to be way more responsive to do something than V, trans, oh, absolutely. And so I guess I'm wondering.

895
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Plainfield VT Select Board: How can we push the envelope? How can we push the in on the edges of what are we allowed to do to slow traffic down.

896
02:11:34.130 --> 02:11:45.739
Plainfield VT Select Board: Where did we get the light before? Where did we get that light from before? Oh, it's part of the construction project they were doing. It was a temporary light. It's a rental that they were able to do because it was a construction zone.

897
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Oh, thank you.

898
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Plainfield VT Select Board: it's not something we could just put out again. We don't. We do not have authority over the road. No, we can't do anything on the road, especially this road. Can can we go solicit the people who live

899
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Plainfield VT Select Board: along Route 2 in, in critical places where it would be great if cars slow down? Well, it's part of the reason we have derelict housing here, I think, is, you know, people, you know. It's we we need to.

900
02:12:16.157 --> 02:12:18.659
Plainfield VT Select Board: We need to slow people down.

901
02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:28.520
Plainfield VT Select Board: I'm I'm all for it with an artist son, Rose. I'd love to see stuff like that, but I know we've tried with the V Trans. In the past.

902
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Plainfield VT Select Board: And they they really are uptight about doing anything with the road, because it's their standards, Federal standards, State standards. And what about on people's personal properties that line the road

903
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Plainfield VT Select Board: that I see no reason not not to do that as long as they don't not in the right away. Yeah, and also can't be.

904
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Plainfield VT Select Board: there's billboard. We have billboard laws in the State, so the size of the thing would also be injured.

905
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Yeah, mostly soft. So you can't have like sales billboards for like a department store or something on the side of the road.

906
02:12:59.790 --> 02:13:06.219
Plainfield VT Select Board: anyway? So do you want to reach out to Patty? Okay, and I'll reach out to Ken, and we'll see what

907
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Plainfield VT Select Board: if we can get anything to happen.

908
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Okay, we're down to the approving draft minutes of 5, 5, 24, and

909
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Plainfield VT Select Board: 5, 1220. I'm sorry. Permission to approve. Draft minutes 5, 5 and 5 12.

910
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Plainfield VT Select Board: All those in favor say aye, aye, and approval of warrants.

911
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Plainfield VT Select Board: accounts payable. Go ahead. If you want to make a motion accounts payable 5, 16, and payroll 4, 35, 8, 5, 12 to 15,

912
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Plainfield VT Select Board: 5, 13 and 5, 22 second, all those in favor. Aye, aye.

913
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Plainfield VT Select Board: date for the next select Board meeting is June 9th June 9.th Thank you.

914
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Motion to adjourn at 8, 33 pm, oh, could I? Just.

915
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Plainfield VT Select Board: yes, just wanted to give you a quick update on personnel policy stuff. Okay?

916
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I am about 85% of the way done typing the edited version. I am waiting for some language, and I'm Josh. I'm calling you on Friday, as you suggested about the Hsa. And the work boot allowance section, and Graham and I have an engagement about

917
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Plainfield VT Select Board: the leave section. Apparently they're not using the forms that are called for. They don't use any forms that are called for anything. So we're looking for some alternative language there. But other than that I

918
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Plainfield VT Select Board: we'll hope to have that sent out to you for comment. This should be considered a working draft, so you know, all comments will be welcome in terms of edits

919
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Plainfield VT Select Board: and then I don't know if it will be ready for June 9.th I sort of would like to go to the Wastewater Commission meeting, which I think is after June 9.th They had sent some suggestions, and I wanted to run some things by there. So, and then I'm away the following one. So it would probably be our 1st meeting in July. That is probably the target for

920
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Plainfield VT Select Board: okay, complete shit on that. So.

921
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Plainfield VT Select Board: okay, well, thanks a lot for doing that. That's really critical. We added 2 short agenda items at the beginning of the meeting that we haven't gotten to. They shouldn't take long, but there are 2 more sorry. 1. 1 is council for the bond from Bcf.

922
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Plainfield VT Select Board: The there was question amongst us which bond which council rather should be retained to confer with us. Peter and I were just at a meeting with Lawrence Miller, Vcf. Who confirmed that this is a bond we have bond counsel, Eli Emerson. And so I make a motion to retain Eli Emerson for this Vcf phase, 2

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Plainfield VT Select Board: loan.

924
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Basically, it's to look at the language that we've been provided the loan agreement and the what's the other term?

925
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Plainfield VT Select Board: But let me the loan itself.

926
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Plainfield VT Select Board: The document. Promissory note that was the other term motion to second. Yes, all those in favor say, aye, aye, aye.

927
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Plainfield VT Select Board: second part of the personnel policy is going to include holidays. And in the

928
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Plainfield VT Select Board: basically, it's the intention to you say this, Peter.

929
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Plainfield VT Select Board: our holiday section, is not quite out of date. They still use the term Washington's Birthday as close as President's Day, but it has always followed the Vermont recognized holidays, including Bennington Battle Day last year. Vermont recognized Juneteenth. It's not in our policy. It's coming right up, and I don't know as we've done all the revisions by then. But I would move that we recognize Juneteenth.

930
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Make sure that the employees know that that's a holiday.

931
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Plainfield VT Select Board: that a motion! Yes, second, second, all those in favor. Aye, aye, thank you for that. That's

932
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Plainfield VT Select Board: and we have to. We just advise Bram, or well, Josh, are you listening?

933
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Plainfield VT Select Board: Juneteenth office is closed. Juneteenth, pass the word to the rest of your folks. Where were we motion to adjourn motion to adjourn, and is there a second?

934
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Plainfield VT Select Board: I second it. All those in favor say, aye, aye, aye.

935
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Plainfield VT Select Board: thank you all.