WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.230 --> 00:00:04.879 Town of Plainfield: We are now recording and live audio. 2 00:00:05.460 --> 00:00:12.449 Town of Plainfield: Okay, calling the Select Board meeting September 22nd order at 6 o'clock. 3 00:00:12.820 --> 00:00:20.570 Town of Plainfield: We are, I guess we didn't want to talk about changes to agenda. 4 00:00:20.790 --> 00:00:27.990 Town of Plainfield: We had one change? Yeah, the town constable's unable to attend tonight, so we will not be hearing a report from him. Okay. 5 00:00:28.410 --> 00:00:32.170 Town of Plainfield: Anything else? I don't believe we have the Knowles, 6 00:00:33.070 --> 00:00:39.570 Town of Plainfield: revised purchase and sales agreement, either. Yeah, we… I know you've been trying, and I've been trying, but… 7 00:00:39.750 --> 00:00:42.509 Town of Plainfield: So we should take that out as well. Yep. 8 00:00:43.340 --> 00:00:45.990 Town of Plainfield: Which one is that? Where is that? Under my report. 9 00:00:46.700 --> 00:00:48.530 Town of Plainfield: Interesting. Yep. 10 00:00:50.750 --> 00:00:52.130 Town of Plainfield: Any other changes? 11 00:00:54.790 --> 00:00:56.170 Town of Plainfield: Any announcements? 12 00:00:58.780 --> 00:01:03.410 Town of Plainfield: We… Did get, a… 13 00:01:03.770 --> 00:01:10.520 Town of Plainfield: report from VTRANS. Oh. It was a series of photos that they're… 14 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:26.450 Town of Plainfield: traffic safety crew came out and did… they did a study from the health center down to Maple Fields and back, looking at signage, and there was a series of, I don't know, about a dozen photographs with some suggestions for sign changes. So, 15 00:01:26.450 --> 00:01:35.679 Town of Plainfield: We haven't had a chance to review that yet, but we do have that. We're still waiting on a reply on the island 16 00:01:35.960 --> 00:01:46.560 Town of Plainfield: and sidewalk and crosswalk stuff, so we don't have anything from them yet on that. We assume they're working on that, because they said they were going to work on that. 17 00:01:47.890 --> 00:01:48.920 Town of Plainfield: Okay. 18 00:01:50.150 --> 00:01:53.560 Town of Plainfield: Pop a comment? 19 00:01:55.340 --> 00:02:04.929 Town of Plainfield: And I think it would be, important to say that we're going to also have a meeting next Thursday, this Thursday, and so any, 20 00:02:05.800 --> 00:02:10.099 Town of Plainfield: EVAC, discussions we can hold till then. 21 00:02:10.389 --> 00:02:15.840 Town of Plainfield: If we can. Any other… any other comments from the public? 22 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:34.709 Town of Plainfield: Okay, oh, Tammy. So, when you're saying you're… you don't want any questions or comments from the public in reference to the project? Not tonight. Okay. We would like to hold it till Thursday, because that's a whole special meeting for… to discuss 23 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:39.000 Town of Plainfield: all aspects of it. Okay, well, I mean, can you, in the last… 24 00:02:39.020 --> 00:02:50.260 Town of Plainfield: public comment at the left select board. Wait, hold on. Tammy Farnham. Yeah. Sorry. Yep, that's okay. At the last select board meeting, I had, 25 00:02:50.290 --> 00:02:52.410 Town of Plainfield: Presented in public comments. 26 00:02:52.450 --> 00:03:01.989 Town of Plainfield: about the change of HUD, and it looks like the grant has changed. I think it should be updated. I've been to several of the meetings. 27 00:03:02.010 --> 00:03:17.979 Town of Plainfield: And I know why the project has now changed, but I think that should be identified at a Slack board meeting of why we made those changes. And obviously, the grant shows some of that, but I think it should be explained prior to that meeting of why those changes were made. 28 00:03:18.390 --> 00:03:25.239 Town of Plainfield: Okay. We're going to have a report tonight from the purchase of the land being in or not in the grant. 29 00:03:25.660 --> 00:03:31.550 Town of Plainfield: It's going to be in the recommendation report. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep discussing. 30 00:03:32.180 --> 00:03:38.390 Town of Plainfield: It is going to be discussed in that meeting, and probably during the recommendation report from the EVAC, which is on this deck. 31 00:03:38.510 --> 00:03:43.279 Town of Plainfield: I'll make sure it was discussed at a SWAC board meeting prior to that. Okay, yep, thank you. 32 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.330 Town of Plainfield: Graham, town clerk Report. 33 00:03:47.880 --> 00:03:48.760 Patti Jamele: Sweet. 34 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:50.570 Town of Plainfield: Yes, 35 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:59.639 Town of Plainfield: Continuing to work, on getting, fiber to the town office, having a meeting tomorrow about that. Oh, good. 36 00:03:59.640 --> 00:04:00.520 Patti Jamele: wouldn't move in. 37 00:04:01.020 --> 00:04:18.879 Town of Plainfield: ordinances. I thought I would discuss something that we've gotten a lot of phone calls about, and it's just basically how the Select Board should formulate policy regarding homeless encampment. We had a number of people 38 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:27.720 Town of Plainfield: camped out at the park and ride, and I just wanted to give the slide board an overview of what other towns are doing, and what the challenges are, etc. 39 00:04:28.490 --> 00:04:38.950 Town of Plainfield: The town is now facing the challenge of individuals camping on town property. The town needs to formulate regulations that balance the concerns of the citizens 40 00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:44.090 Town of Plainfield: With the compassion our community holds for those in dire circumstances. 41 00:04:44.400 --> 00:04:56.689 Town of Plainfield: I would suggest a two-pronged approach that utilizes the power of enforcing ordinances while at the same time instituting policies that highlight the importance of providing help to those in need. 42 00:04:56.880 --> 00:05:01.390 Town of Plainfield: Vermont towns are wrestling with the current homeless crisis with mixed results. 43 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:18.889 Town of Plainfield: I spoke with one town clerk who informed me that the select board had abandoned the issue when confronted with lawsuits from the ACLU. Another mentioned that they had dropped enforcement of the newly minted rules as the specific situation they were addressing had resolved itself. 44 00:05:19.020 --> 00:05:29.570 Town of Plainfield: Most of the municipalities that are tackling this issue are exponentially larger than Plainfield, and have the advantage of municipal law enforcement and in-house attorneys. 45 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:38.780 Town of Plainfield: The basic understanding of the government role. Do people have a right to camp or sleep outside if they have nowhere else to go? 46 00:05:38.930 --> 00:05:56.240 Town of Plainfield: Not on town property. The U.S. Supreme Court issued its ruling in the case of City of Brants Pass, Oregon v. Johnson on June 28, 2024. This decision allows cities to enforce ordinances that ban sleeping and camping on public property 47 00:05:56.270 --> 00:06:00.010 Town of Plainfield: Even if homeless individuals lack alternative shelter. 48 00:06:01.110 --> 00:06:06.209 Town of Plainfield: without violating the Eighth Amendment prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. 49 00:06:06.460 --> 00:06:20.320 Town of Plainfield: Can police or a government official ask you to go elsewhere? Yes, cities and towns may designate certain public areas as no camping locations, however, they cannot forbid people from camping on public land entirely. 50 00:06:20.590 --> 00:06:37.909 Town of Plainfield: On private property, you have the right to camp without permission, and the landowner may ask you to leave. Some Vermont towns and cities have adopted policies or guidelines around camping on public lands, which are highlighted below in alphabetical order. Burlington. 51 00:06:37.910 --> 00:06:45.780 Town of Plainfield: As per a draft policy, city officials will generally not interfere with your emergency camping sites on public property. 52 00:06:45.780 --> 00:07:05.299 Town of Plainfield: So long as you are not in a prohibited area with posted signs. However, if a city official finds site that poses risks to health or safety, they may post notices warning you that you must move. They will generally wait at least 7 days from the notice until they clear the camp. Hartford. 53 00:07:05.300 --> 00:07:06.630 Town of Plainfield: Hartford officials. 54 00:07:06.950 --> 00:07:20.690 Town of Plainfield: find your site, they will generally work with you to try to ensure that your site follows health and safety rules. If Hartford officials determine that your site… Can I just ask a quick question? How many examples are there? 55 00:07:21.010 --> 00:07:31.620 Town of Plainfield: I have two more. Okay, just checking. I'm guessing we're gonna move this to, like, have a small group work on it, so that's why I was making sure it wasn't, like, pages and pages of examples. 56 00:07:32.180 --> 00:07:33.000 Town of Plainfield: Right. 57 00:07:33.130 --> 00:07:48.120 Town of Plainfield: If Hartford officials determine your site poses risk to health or safety, or cannot be made safe, they give you 48 hours to move unless urgent health or safety concerns require a shorter time. If shelter is available, they should tell you where 58 00:07:48.400 --> 00:08:03.360 Town of Plainfield: Montpelier has a general policy of not interfering with emergency camping sites. However, if the city official determines that your site poses risks to health or safety, they will generally give you 24 hours to relocate. 59 00:08:03.440 --> 00:08:15.850 Town of Plainfield: If you are not at your campsite when they come to give you notice, the city will post notices and expect you to move out within 3 days. You are not allowed to camp at the State House grounds. 60 00:08:16.140 --> 00:08:24.700 Town of Plainfield: South Burlington, basically, the same as… roughly the same as the other. They've given you 20… 61 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:38.329 Town of Plainfield: 4-hour notice. I suggest that Plainfield… I'm just going to summarize this. I think… and I'll send you hard copies of this. I think that Plainfield should take a two-pronged approach. One. 62 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.309 Town of Plainfield: Is instituting an ordinance 63 00:08:41.530 --> 00:09:00.069 Town of Plainfield: which prohibits camping with fines, and designating and posting in all the, park and rides, the Mill Street, and so forth, that, no, we're not camping. But that policy, which is basically the stick, needs to be 64 00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:04.280 Town of Plainfield: Complemented with That statute. 65 00:09:04.380 --> 00:09:10.870 Town of Plainfield: Needs to be… that ordinance needs to be complemented with a policy which, 66 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:22.399 Town of Plainfield: the town officials have a safe, respectful, and effective response to homeless encampments on municipal properties. Basically, and I outline it here, it talks a lot more 67 00:09:22.430 --> 00:09:35.469 Town of Plainfield: of a social service approach, where basically you designate… it would be probably the constable would have, understand resources available, assess the situation, fill out a form. 68 00:09:35.470 --> 00:09:43.780 Town of Plainfield: turn it over to the select board. I'll send you a copy of all this, and you can just sort of judge, 69 00:09:43.790 --> 00:09:45.290 Town of Plainfield: You know, what direction? 70 00:09:45.330 --> 00:10:01.050 Town of Plainfield: I think… I just want to say that I think the community obviously has a lot of compassion for people in dire situations, and this isn't about, you know, throwing people into the abyss. This is about trying to balance the needs of the community with 71 00:10:01.130 --> 00:10:14.009 Town of Plainfield: you know, the, needs of people in emergency situations, so… Have you been getting calls from people in the… Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, a lot of people are… are very upset. Okay. 72 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:17.660 Town of Plainfield: Thank you for working on that. Thank you, Ben. 73 00:10:19.870 --> 00:10:25.450 Town of Plainfield: That's it. Anything else? Okay. Thank you. I know, Peter had… 74 00:10:26.060 --> 00:10:39.649 Town of Plainfield: something about ordinances you, you were starting on. Should we have a subgroup, like we have done with other things, to… to kind of dig into the policy? We have, we have, graham and I met, with, 75 00:10:39.810 --> 00:10:46.780 Town of Plainfield: Trevor Whipple from League of Cities and Towns, former Barry City Police Chief, and he was the one who, 76 00:10:48.310 --> 00:11:05.639 Town of Plainfield: took over the, section of the VLCT training that we attended, on ordinances, and basically the structure of enforcement. Like, so if we would put a fine in, the… the idea is to incentivize the ordinance 77 00:11:05.990 --> 00:11:25.569 Town of Plainfield: to encourage compliance. In other words, someone could plead guilty if the fine was $100. You would say, okay, if you paid $50, you know, and corrected yourself, we would drop the ticket and drop the charges. So whoever's writing the ticket has the authority to drop the charges. Trevor has met with, I think, Dan. 78 00:11:25.570 --> 00:11:30.210 Town of Plainfield: Karen Story, Jody Velarde, And, 79 00:11:30.610 --> 00:11:45.280 Town of Plainfield: And, Peter Yassis. And Peter Yassis, Animal Control, because those are the places where we have to do the ordinances. I think animal control is fairly simple. I think health is fairly simple. The zoning ordinance is a big 80 00:11:45.280 --> 00:11:52.130 Town of Plainfield: Because right now, if you read our zoning ordinance, the only 81 00:11:52.170 --> 00:11:59.010 Town of Plainfield: enforcement section has one fine, so no matter how little or how big your, 82 00:11:59.010 --> 00:12:18.459 Town of Plainfield: offense is, the penalty is the same, and it's less than what the traffic bureau charges as a minimum charge. So, you know, that definitely needs updating. I have a traffic ordinance drafted one, which I'll submit to everybody as well. Yeah. And the fine that we're talking about 83 00:12:18.560 --> 00:12:30.610 Town of Plainfield: In terms of camping in these places, is what the fine is on the state level, because it's prohibited to, park in state park and rides, and it's $50 a day. 84 00:12:30.890 --> 00:12:33.640 Town of Plainfield: So, we've asked each of the… 85 00:12:33.820 --> 00:12:47.669 Town of Plainfield: people who, will have ticket writing authorities to give us their priorities. Dan is the only one I've seen any response back from yet, so… And do we need to authorize 86 00:12:47.730 --> 00:13:04.819 Town of Plainfield: Because, like, we don't have, like, a ticket writing, like, just generally as a town, we don't have that. Do we have to authorize something that says we do that? Within the ordinance, it spells out who the designated officer is, so that would be part of the ordinance. Got it. Okay, thanks. We have also, just so you know, you have a proof. 87 00:13:05.270 --> 00:13:10.640 Town of Plainfield: Ticket writing on a basic level, that that's taken care of, but the specific ordinance has to state it. 88 00:13:10.870 --> 00:13:16.999 Town of Plainfield: But we don't have to do all of these at once? No, I just wondered, so are you… 89 00:13:17.850 --> 00:13:32.880 Town of Plainfield: you're not… I didn't see us notice for a vote, so you're not asking us to adopt something tonight. Oh, no, no, no. But at our next meeting, a month from now, like, what's the time? I think the encampment issue is… the thing, just so you understand. 90 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:45.389 Town of Plainfield: there's policy, which you can vote on, and so forth, and then there's ordinance. Ordinance is a process that needs, you know, there's probably… if you passed it one day, you know, month and a half, two months to… 91 00:13:45.390 --> 00:13:58.440 Town of Plainfield: have it go into effect, and there has to be hearing, you have to run it in the paper. So, I would say, just to get things moving and on track, we just would start with one, and I can talk to Peter, and… 92 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:10.310 Town of Plainfield: We'll figure out which one would be… Well, if we have to do all of the times Argus stuff, and we found that they don't always print our things on the timeline we would like… I'm looking at the times, I guess we're correlated. 93 00:14:10.330 --> 00:14:25.420 Town of Plainfield: I just wonder if it makes sense for us to do a few at a time, so we don't have to warn one every time we do… we could… we could warn three at once, or what… whatever makes sense, so that we don't have to warn and deal with the timelines, of all these different things in different ways, so… 94 00:14:25.650 --> 00:14:45.079 Town of Plainfield: I'm just thinking about the note from Dan Caddy to prioritize encampments as an ordinance, and so if it was going to be a long time until many ordinances could come together, I wonder if there's, like, a soft start of one, because there is a more acute need for it now. 95 00:14:45.420 --> 00:15:02.869 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, it just sounded like the public health officer ones are pretty self-explanatory, and the animal control, so… Fantastic. I mean, if they're pretty boilerplate based on what other towns do. Anyway, we should just think about it, because it is a whole period, and we have to pay for, pay for the posting, we have to post it all over, and if… 96 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:13.870 Town of Plainfield: I know it's… it is a little bit of work for… for you, and if we're doing, I don't know, 12 different ordinances, we may have to do it 12 different times. It'd be nice to have another select board member on our little task force. 97 00:15:15.420 --> 00:15:18.100 Town of Plainfield: Wink, wink. 98 00:15:18.990 --> 00:15:20.309 Town of Plainfield: But we will see. 99 00:15:20.580 --> 00:15:21.859 Town of Plainfield: I would consider it. 100 00:15:23.050 --> 00:15:26.869 Town of Plainfield: Okay, thank you, Ben. Sure. 101 00:15:27.030 --> 00:15:30.940 Town of Plainfield: Oh, Josh, you, you up. 102 00:15:33.570 --> 00:15:35.260 Town of Plainfield: Treasury report? 103 00:15:40.940 --> 00:15:47.850 Town of Plainfield: So… I get you, a budget actual for 104 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.519 Town of Plainfield: The first two periods of the, 105 00:15:51.980 --> 00:16:00.220 Town of Plainfield: of the fiscal year, and emailed this to you earlier, ran a little bit of back and forth over email, but I'll just… 106 00:16:00.430 --> 00:16:02.160 Town of Plainfield: Kind of summarized that. 107 00:16:03.550 --> 00:16:18.370 Town of Plainfield: as far as where we are in our, like, current position in the general fund, we are right on track in terms of expenditures. This doesn't include a lot of the loan payments, because so much of that is, like. 108 00:16:18.570 --> 00:16:32.059 Town of Plainfield: at the beginning of the fiscal year, including that, kind of will, as far as, like, a budget-to-actual kind of trajectory, kind of skews things a lot. How do we track that particular item? 109 00:16:32.250 --> 00:16:46.290 Town of Plainfield: Is there no special report, or… Yeah, I can give you that report, but it's, I wanted to kind of show, like, what we're spending through the years, kind of just keeping pace through the year. Yep. And the, and then, 110 00:16:46.410 --> 00:16:50.600 Town of Plainfield: A couple of things that stood out, 111 00:16:50.870 --> 00:17:10.679 Town of Plainfield: the, position that Sil holds, so Reland in the, town, that percentage is, like, high, because that was part of our budgeted, year. Her position is paid through a grant, so that's kind of the one major standout. And then, 112 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:20.970 Town of Plainfield: There are some… There were some allocations to, to the municipal building, 113 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:38.469 Town of Plainfield: maintenance and repair that I think may have gotten conflated with some of the town office supplies versus municipal building supplies, so there's a little bit of a high number on town office supplies, but I have to go back and dig into that a little more, but… 114 00:17:38.550 --> 00:17:42.539 Town of Plainfield: You know, that's the… that's sort of the position we're at there. 115 00:17:43.070 --> 00:17:52.609 Town of Plainfield: And then, as far as, like, Other… other things that… That we have. 116 00:17:52.950 --> 00:17:57.949 Town of Plainfield: Kind of undermine, umbrella with you. Oh! 117 00:18:01.100 --> 00:18:03.830 Town of Plainfield: Adopting the financial policies. 118 00:18:04.450 --> 00:18:10.049 Town of Plainfield: One of which, which is the next agenda item. I don't know if you want to move on to that. 119 00:18:11.610 --> 00:18:16.790 Town of Plainfield: I know you said this in the email, so the overall, like, is that we… 120 00:18:16.810 --> 00:18:34.799 Town of Plainfield: our… for this period, which is the first two months, we're 17% through the year, right? Yeah. And we've spent 15.53% of the budget, right? So we're… we're under… I mean, like, it's close, but we're basically where we need to be, right? Yeah, and in the next, like, month where we get… and Peter addressed this in the email, like. 121 00:18:34.800 --> 00:18:39.190 Town of Plainfield: We'll have, like, all the payments to, like, the social, 122 00:18:39.190 --> 00:18:43.090 Town of Plainfield: committees, allocations, and so there'll be a little… 123 00:18:43.090 --> 00:19:02.939 Town of Plainfield: big month, and then, you know, overall, like, one of the big, drivers of expenditures during this time of year is… is banking sand for the highway department. So it's a big item, it's costly, like, and so that represents a large portion of what our expenditures are. 124 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:04.769 Town of Plainfield: Looks like you have a good supply. 125 00:19:07.220 --> 00:19:10.150 Town of Plainfield: I just wanted to, you know, thank Josh, because 126 00:19:10.410 --> 00:19:20.820 Town of Plainfield: the town has not had this for ages, or ever, and this is, this is great. It is so good. It's so good for department heads to have, for collect boards to have. 127 00:19:21.020 --> 00:19:21.880 Town of Plainfield: Rob. 128 00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:24.170 Town of Plainfield: Yes, yep. 129 00:19:26.410 --> 00:19:27.380 Town of Plainfield: Thank you. 130 00:19:28.330 --> 00:19:29.710 Town of Plainfield: Anything else, Josh? 131 00:19:30.250 --> 00:19:36.989 Town of Plainfield: Is that your primary? So the next item is, the town financial policies. Yes. 132 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:45.250 Town of Plainfield: there is a specific policy to adopt, and I don't know if… Peter and Dan want to… 133 00:19:45.360 --> 00:19:49.680 Town of Plainfield: Because they were both involved in drafting that policy, but… 134 00:19:49.980 --> 00:20:06.329 Town of Plainfield: there's that one that we should adopt, which is kind of, like, the core financial policies. We do need to update our, procurement policy so that we're kind of aligned with what the Code of Federal Regulation 200 calls out as, like. 135 00:20:06.330 --> 00:20:15.509 Town of Plainfield: its structure, and so kind of a over-our-butt situation. We get to… we want to kind of make sure that our policy aligns with 136 00:20:15.580 --> 00:20:19.030 Town of Plainfield: The federal regulations so that we don't… 137 00:20:19.580 --> 00:20:33.330 Town of Plainfield: you know, have difficulty, and we've had a little bit of a bump… couple of bumps with, like, the, you know, some of the procurement related to FEMA, but it's… we've sorted it out. But the, 138 00:20:33.490 --> 00:20:45.539 Town of Plainfield: the… having that policy in place just kind of adds another level of, kind of, quality assurance at getting our money back from the feds, should we have another reason to do so. 139 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:59.530 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, so this all… Liz Curry, who's our grant consultant, let us know that we weren't in compliance with state rules around having financial policy. Every town should have financial policy. 140 00:20:59.530 --> 00:21:07.510 Town of Plainfield: I guess a lot don't. We took model policy from Swanton and… somewhere else. I think that's right. 141 00:21:07.860 --> 00:21:14.940 Town of Plainfield: Anyway, one much smaller town… one smaller town than us that had a one-page financial policy, Swanton had a… 142 00:21:15.290 --> 00:21:23.239 Town of Plainfield: 6- or 7-page policy. We have a now five-page policy that includes the areas of accounting, auditing. 143 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:36.459 Town of Plainfield: financial reporting, balanced budget, cash receipts, petty cash, and return check policy, along with fraud prevention policy. So, we took model language from the League of Cities and Towns. 144 00:21:36.490 --> 00:21:50.380 Town of Plainfield: And looked at what these other two towns did for some, like, real-world examples, and Peter, Josh, and I sat down and put this together, which you have all gotten emailed to you, last week, I think. Yep. 145 00:21:51.770 --> 00:22:01.239 Town of Plainfield: It's a lot of work. It's pretty straightforward. We should have these things. Yeah, we should have it, and it strikes me that if we're getting grant money. 146 00:22:02.760 --> 00:22:10.070 Town of Plainfield: People are going to want to know that we're somewhat responsible for that money, so this is another step to that assurance. 147 00:22:11.470 --> 00:22:13.209 Town of Plainfield: That's… that's my thought of it. 148 00:22:13.370 --> 00:22:18.779 Town of Plainfield: I'll make a motion that we adopt the, Town of Plainfield financial policies as presented. 149 00:22:19.360 --> 00:22:20.300 Town of Plainfield: Seconded. 150 00:22:21.530 --> 00:22:25.800 Town of Plainfield: Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 151 00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:28.040 Town of Plainfield: Patty waved. 152 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.999 Town of Plainfield: Patty is… and I? Patty? Yeah. 153 00:22:32.420 --> 00:22:38.720 Town of Plainfield: Okay, unanimous. Thank you. Yeah. 154 00:22:40.260 --> 00:22:42.030 Town of Plainfield: That's really an important step. 155 00:22:42.980 --> 00:22:44.510 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, thank you all for working on that. 156 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:58.179 Town of Plainfield: And you sent… you did send us with that, procurement policy. I… I sent the link to the draft document to you and to Dan, and I began editing a little bit of it today. 157 00:22:58.350 --> 00:22:59.170 Town of Plainfield: Okay. 158 00:22:59.600 --> 00:23:14.489 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, I haven't seen anything yet. No, I… we're gonna work on it in a similar fashion. It's just no edits to our procurement policy. Great. We do have… that's the one financial policy we did have, was a procurement policy, so… Okay. 159 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.929 Town of Plainfield: And… and it's… it's the same… based off the same model. 160 00:23:18.730 --> 00:23:28.760 Town of Plainfield: It's just… it's, there's some changes around the federal component that we want to make sure that we put. Okay, updating as needed. 161 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:36.200 Town of Plainfield: Okay, EV… EAC? 162 00:23:38.940 --> 00:23:40.590 Town of Plainfield: I'm looking at dining, I don't know. 163 00:23:41.650 --> 00:23:43.609 Town of Plainfield: recommendations to board? 164 00:23:46.020 --> 00:23:51.240 Town of Plainfield: I wasn't, but I will. 165 00:23:51.410 --> 00:23:58.980 Town of Plainfield: We read… I read the minutes, so I kind of know what happened. Both Arian and Lauren are here. 166 00:23:59.350 --> 00:24:10.159 Town of Plainfield: We certainly sent you the recommendations, and I'm not… it seemed pretty thorough to me. Peter responded, that he thought it was… 167 00:24:10.770 --> 00:24:16.319 Town of Plainfield: thorough. We had a really excellent, long meeting, to come up with this. 168 00:24:17.030 --> 00:24:22.960 Town of Plainfield: And, do you have any questions that we can answer about the recommendations that we sent you? 169 00:24:23.820 --> 00:24:34.580 Town of Plainfield: I thought it was pretty clear, but go ahead. If I might, and to go back to Tammy's question about, some of the things here, if I could just read them. Yeah. I think for the public. 170 00:24:34.860 --> 00:24:42.820 Town of Plainfield: First, bullet is regarding the recommendation of support for the application. 171 00:24:43.080 --> 00:24:52.820 Town of Plainfield: the entire group, after they worked through various segments, voted 7 in favor and 4 opposed. Majority of the committee felt that 172 00:24:52.820 --> 00:25:06.760 Town of Plainfield: The proposed 40 units was a good idea. Minority did not. The density seemed to be the issue there. But overall, 7 to 4 in favor of submitting the grant. Of e-components. 173 00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:22.800 Town of Plainfield: One of the components of the proposal is matching funds for the emergency watershed protection. This would be $304,000 of the grant money, so this would match the federal funds from USDA. 174 00:25:22.800 --> 00:25:27.740 Town of Plainfield: on this, it's an allowable use of the funds, and the committee was unanimous. 175 00:25:27.930 --> 00:25:31.110 Town of Plainfield: In support of that section of the grant. 176 00:25:31.730 --> 00:25:45.619 Town of Plainfield: Next was not including the land acquisition cost in the grant. This has been much discussed back and forth, as to whether to use the funds or not. Bottom line is, they suggested no. 177 00:25:45.690 --> 00:25:54.399 Town of Plainfield: Because it gives us the most flexibility. If we, obtain the lands else… 178 00:25:54.690 --> 00:26:04.190 Town of Plainfield: through other means, then we can dictate. We can sell lots, we can take proceeds, and we can do other things with it. So, 179 00:26:04.590 --> 00:26:14.349 Town of Plainfield: That, was a 10 to nothing… 10 in favor, 1 person abstained. 180 00:26:15.830 --> 00:26:27.730 Town of Plainfield: Funding infrastructure for the East Village. This includes water, sewer, stormwater, etc. And that was unanimous in support of that portion of the grant. 181 00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:35.079 Town of Plainfield: A subgrant to Down Street Housing and Community Development, So this would be… 182 00:26:37.870 --> 00:26:43.450 Town of Plainfield: 1.375 million, and it would be 5 183 00:26:43.830 --> 00:26:49.370 Town of Plainfield: Holmes? Am I reading that correctly? Right? And… 184 00:26:50.450 --> 00:26:57.350 Town of Plainfield: This was… two people had, to miss a portion of the meeting, but the vote of the remaining was 9-0. 185 00:26:57.670 --> 00:27:02.609 Town of Plainfield: on doing that. Same thing for an option for Habitat for Humanity. 186 00:27:03.550 --> 00:27:07.330 Town of Plainfield: That was 9 in favor, and 2 missing. 187 00:27:07.730 --> 00:27:12.720 Town of Plainfield: Including funds to hire professional management services, 188 00:27:13.390 --> 00:27:26.209 Town of Plainfield: Again, this was 520,000, and it was 9 to nothing with 2 people gone. The number of lots and lots sales plan dis… description, 189 00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:32.150 Town of Plainfield: a whole lot of discussion on that, etc. This was, 190 00:27:32.930 --> 00:27:38.950 Town of Plainfield: probably the most discussed. The… the key… 191 00:27:39.390 --> 00:27:57.489 Town of Plainfield: recommendation here was there was a consensus to make the grant application deliverable 40 housing units, not 40 lots, and I think that's included. Yeah, I think that was quite consensus on that. I think that that was also a 7-4 split in the end, in terms of the number of units. 192 00:27:57.570 --> 00:28:22.470 Town of Plainfield: Although we did not take a vote on that, even a straw vote. Somebody else who was there… But here's the language. We did reach consensus to make the grant application deliverable 40 housing units, not 40 lots. To be clear, 40 commit… 4 committee members… 40 lots to units. 40… 4 committee members wanted fewer lots, housing units. Okay, but everybody… 193 00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:36.459 Town of Plainfield: But I sure have, so I was not prepared to present. That's okay. Oh, sorry, that's okay. Okay, that's fine. And then the final, again, was 7 to apply, and 4, not to. 194 00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:38.419 Town of Plainfield: And then we did receive one 195 00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:48.339 Town of Plainfield: explanation of vote. Donnie, as a former legislator, said people often on a roll call vote will explain their votes. And 196 00:28:48.340 --> 00:29:09.269 Town of Plainfield: And so, and two people are opting to do that, and they should… they will send that in to you, I believe, before the public hearing. Oh, great. One we have, and I… I don't… if I haven't forwarded it to you, I will. Okay. Yeah, Liz did, and that was included with the recommendation. Yeah, that was formed. And I think Vicki is the other… Vicki McDonald also wanted to explain that. Yes. Yeah, she's… Okay, yeah. 197 00:29:09.350 --> 00:29:11.700 Town of Plainfield: So that's what we'll see that. That's what we received. 198 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.199 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, thanks, that's a good move. 199 00:29:15.370 --> 00:29:19.449 Town of Plainfield: And thank you for the work on that committee. 200 00:29:19.730 --> 00:29:22.520 Town of Plainfield: We're so much fun. 201 00:29:23.260 --> 00:29:27.919 Town of Plainfield: Only you, Donnie. 202 00:29:28.370 --> 00:29:29.199 Town of Plainfield: Say well. 203 00:29:29.370 --> 00:29:30.050 Town of Plainfield: No. 204 00:29:31.340 --> 00:29:33.890 Town of Plainfield: She's gonna write something. 205 00:29:36.310 --> 00:29:39.399 Town of Plainfield: We're talking about… you're writing something, correct? 206 00:29:41.570 --> 00:29:42.045 Town of Plainfield: No. 207 00:29:43.490 --> 00:29:44.380 Town of Plainfield: Yeah. 208 00:29:44.550 --> 00:30:02.190 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, yeah, we would… We'd like to see that… that response, yeah. Great. I know you've had some questions and answers that I've seen fly around, so… Yes, and Aaron and I are still going to have a discussion. But yes. 209 00:30:02.330 --> 00:30:07.309 Town of Plainfield: Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. Good. 210 00:30:08.730 --> 00:30:14.559 Town of Plainfield: Move on to the… Grant Administrator. Thank you, Karen Hatcher. 211 00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:16.559 Town of Plainfield: No grants for this. 212 00:30:16.870 --> 00:30:24.620 Town of Plainfield: So, comment on the 4 hours we spent last week. I thought it was a really… 213 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:29.630 Town of Plainfield: good use of time. I just thought that, there was a lot of… 214 00:30:29.760 --> 00:30:40.209 Town of Plainfield: really good back and forth, a lot of really honest, open communication. People got really real, and I think it was, 215 00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:46.180 Town of Plainfield: on the whole, just, both Liz and I felt like it was a really good use of time, and 216 00:30:46.330 --> 00:30:47.850 Town of Plainfield: And, 217 00:30:47.950 --> 00:31:00.210 Town of Plainfield: So I just want to say that I really want to thank the EBEAC for the investment of that time, and and their willingness to really show up, and be honest, and be real with each other, and I just think it was, 218 00:31:00.360 --> 00:31:14.169 Town of Plainfield: a really good example of what this town is about, and the way we can be with each other on difficult conversations, so… And when I read the minutes, which were excellent, there was a lot of back and forth, and… 219 00:31:14.490 --> 00:31:20.200 Town of Plainfield: thoughtful discussion about real issues, so I was… that was good. Yeah, 100%. 220 00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:31.389 Town of Plainfield: So I have just a couple of updates, and then we have a number of documents to execute that would, put us in position to submit the grant. 221 00:31:31.540 --> 00:31:43.640 Town of Plainfield: So first, just want to, again, reiterate that the public hearing on the CDBGDR grant is Thursday, the 25th, at 6 p.m. in this room. 222 00:31:43.770 --> 00:31:57.319 Town of Plainfield: Our grant application, was made public. It's a draft grant, obviously, because we're still taking public comment, and we'll still be updating, all of the remaining documents. 223 00:31:57.520 --> 00:32:06.829 Town of Plainfield: Because we noticed a few typos and a few… there's always a little bit more, but by the time we get to the 30th, when we have to hit the submit button, 224 00:32:06.990 --> 00:32:18.060 Town of Plainfield: it'll be where it needs to be, but, that's the process we're in, that, on the 19th, at 5pm, we posted the, the draft. 225 00:32:18.190 --> 00:32:32.690 Town of Plainfield: So folks can have it. We were early, just want to say. Good job. 48 pages, and, it's also, at the town hall, town office for, folks who want to look at it there. 226 00:32:33.040 --> 00:32:42.940 Town of Plainfield: Also, just, of interest might be that, the project, that the, ExecuSuite… 227 00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:55.050 Town of Plainfield: Execut? Yes. ExecuSuite has, also a Plainfield slash East Montpelier project has their public hearing on the 25th at 11 a.m. at the Hay Barn. 228 00:32:55.180 --> 00:32:59.280 Town of Plainfield: We have not seen their, draft. 229 00:32:59.520 --> 00:33:03.259 Town of Plainfield: That's… It doesn't seem to be made public yet. 230 00:33:03.650 --> 00:33:06.089 Town of Plainfield: So, just that. 231 00:33:06.210 --> 00:33:13.449 Town of Plainfield: we're interested, we would like to see it. So… so just to say, so those who are interested, show up. 232 00:33:13.530 --> 00:33:30.989 Town of Plainfield: To learn about the project. I did read their legal notice, which did appear in the Times Argus, and it's for 12 rental units rehabbed at the Plainfield Inn, and then 10… Cottages? Rental cottages. Yeah. And it didn't say where. 233 00:33:31.130 --> 00:33:34.289 Town of Plainfield: So I don't know if it's in Plainfield or Race Montpelier. 234 00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:46.140 Town of Plainfield: on the East Montpelier side, so I don't see how they could have applied through East Montpelier if part of their grant application wasn't in East Montpelier. And what I understand is that the grant application 235 00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:54.890 Town of Plainfield: will be available for viewing in person tomorrow at the Hay Barn theater. I went to Eastmont Hillier Town office today, and it was not a bill. 236 00:33:55.760 --> 00:34:05.480 Town of Plainfield: Boom. Anyway, that's a compliance issue, but it's theirs, not ours. Yep. So, we're in good shape. All right, 237 00:34:05.710 --> 00:34:08.580 Town of Plainfield: Great, and I also wanted to, 238 00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:22.630 Town of Plainfield: comment on the EWP, amendment. Carl signed that on the 18th, because we were up against a deadline with the NCRS. 239 00:34:22.870 --> 00:34:32.900 Town of Plainfield: And we had an agreement already. This was an amendment to raise the number, because the Martin Meadow project, went up in the estimate. 240 00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:40.379 Town of Plainfield: But we hit their deadline and got that document in. Had a long conversation with Charlie today about 241 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.649 Town of Plainfield: the Martin Meadow project, and we will be having… just… 242 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:56.639 Town of Plainfield: just to make sure everybody's aware, we… you might remember that the funds for that grant were put on a moratorium by the Trump administration, and they were held for 7 months. 243 00:34:56.830 --> 00:35:07.900 Town of Plainfield: So we suspended anything on that grant. We didn't have a meeting with the property owners, we didn't do anything awaiting word that money would be available again. 244 00:35:07.940 --> 00:35:21.319 Town of Plainfield: Then it became available, but then it was available on this, like, very tight time frame, and we were in the middle of this application when that happened. So, I promised Charlie that we'll get those property owners together in short order, once we can take a breath. 245 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:28.750 Town of Plainfield: And we'll begin to kind of move ourselves through what that, project will look like. But… 246 00:35:28.940 --> 00:35:36.180 Town of Plainfield: you know, just lots of things going on. But I just wanted to acknowledge that we have work to do around that. 247 00:35:36.740 --> 00:35:40.769 Town of Plainfield: And that's the reason to put in for the matching funds. 248 00:35:41.330 --> 00:35:49.449 Town of Plainfield: Is because we recognize that $304,000 is not something property owners can easily come up with, and that the town 249 00:35:49.630 --> 00:36:02.540 Town of Plainfield: needs to help figure out how to fund that match. So we're rolling this into the… It is in the grant. It's in the grant, yeah. Okay. So I just wanted to note that. Yeah. I have a question. My name's Elena Norway. 250 00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:11.409 Town of Plainfield: Who are the property owners that you keep referring to, departmental property owners? The… the properties… 251 00:36:12.710 --> 00:36:19.270 Town of Plainfield: See, I'm not… I don't have all that with me tonight, so… Yeah, yeah. The properties are from the Friends Meeting House. 252 00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:35.380 Town of Plainfield: to the Plainfield Health Center, so along that curve. Along that curve, on the… okay. Right, so there's only those Charlotte companies that are between the church. I believe that's correct. That's what it seems to be, but I talked to Charlie, and the lady, but there's no Martin Meadow property owners. 253 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:43.779 Town of Plainfield: In there. So it's just called Martin Meadow Property Owners, and it's just confusing to me, because they aren't actually Martin Meadow Property Owners. 254 00:36:43.890 --> 00:37:00.359 Town of Plainfield: Okay, well, except for the church. Except for the church. Churches. The church is, yeah. Yeah, so it's that for… It's that Charlie, but then there's no other environmental property owner, so I'm just curious. I think it helps the rest of the public to just 255 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:14.329 Town of Plainfield: think about it on that direction, even though it's not official. Okay. Clarify. We don't want to confuse it, okay. We will… we will identify who the property owners are, we will have a meeting about that. 256 00:37:14.330 --> 00:37:17.019 Town of Plainfield: And we'll make that clear, but we're not… 257 00:37:17.070 --> 00:37:31.069 Town of Plainfield: I'm not prepared to do that tonight. I wasn't digging into that at all. This is all kind of last minute, I know. We'll get there. But we'll get it. Charlie, did you have a quick thing? A question or a comment. I have never seen a map 258 00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:37.569 Town of Plainfield: or a detailed property location description other than Martin Meadow. 259 00:37:38.270 --> 00:37:43.749 Town of Plainfield: Everything else is pure speculation until it is written down. 260 00:37:43.950 --> 00:37:46.980 Town of Plainfield: And discussed among all the relevant parties. 261 00:37:48.420 --> 00:37:49.580 Town of Plainfield: Okay. 262 00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:59.450 Town of Plainfield: Okay, thank you. So… I'm gonna keep moving. Yep. It's okay. Yep. Thank you. 263 00:37:59.780 --> 00:38:10.270 Town of Plainfield: So the documents for the CDBGDR application, you have in your packet, as a lien, okay. 264 00:38:10.620 --> 00:38:18.099 Town of Plainfield: There is a resolution for the BCDP Grant Application Authority that needs to be signed by all members. 265 00:38:18.660 --> 00:38:25.830 Town of Plainfield: It's, looks like single applicant, is what it says at the top of it. 266 00:38:27.010 --> 00:38:35.430 Town of Plainfield: Make a motion to sign the resolution collectively as the Plaintiff Select Board, the VCDP Grant Application Authority. 267 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.299 Town of Plainfield: Is there a second? Second. 268 00:38:40.530 --> 00:38:42.489 Town of Plainfield: Any discussion on this? 269 00:38:44.940 --> 00:38:48.460 Town of Plainfield: Thank you. All those in favor, say it. 270 00:38:48.730 --> 00:38:58.880 Town of Plainfield: Sorry, go ahead. This is an amendment to a agreement that's already been… No, this is a resolution for the CDBGDR grant. 271 00:39:03.820 --> 00:39:09.360 Town of Plainfield: You were calling for a vote? Yes, all those in favor, say aye. Aye. 272 00:39:09.560 --> 00:39:10.410 Patti Jamele: Bye. 273 00:39:11.070 --> 00:39:11.660 Town of Plainfield: baby. 274 00:39:11.950 --> 00:39:14.370 Town of Plainfield: Alive, we hear you. We see you, we hear you. 275 00:39:14.370 --> 00:39:14.990 Patti Jamele: Okay. 276 00:39:18.150 --> 00:39:20.549 Town of Plainfield: I mean, I know timing is gonna get really tight. 277 00:39:20.550 --> 00:39:45.149 Town of Plainfield: You need all of our signatures? I do. So, okay, you'll have to figure out… we'll have… someone will have to figure out Patty… getting Patty to sign any documents. There are a whole bunch of signatures. No, I know. Some of the documents here require a majority, some of them require the treasurer, some require the assistant town clerk, so we just have to make sure when this meeting's over that we have a list of all of this, so there's a bunch. 278 00:39:45.330 --> 00:39:49.530 Town of Plainfield: Thank you. Yeah. Municipal policies and codes. 279 00:39:50.080 --> 00:39:52.000 Town of Plainfield: form MP1. 280 00:39:55.610 --> 00:39:56.330 Town of Plainfield: Nope. 281 00:39:56.500 --> 00:39:58.270 Town of Plainfield: Oh. Looks like this. 282 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.679 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, I'm just trying to find it on the, the agenda. 283 00:40:03.060 --> 00:40:12.450 Town of Plainfield: It is… sorry. The next thing we have on the agenda is General Information Notice of Relocation. Okay, so that… I don't believe there's signature on this, it's general… 284 00:40:12.890 --> 00:40:16.530 Town of Plainfield: An area… you're there, guys. 285 00:40:16.660 --> 00:40:18.319 Town of Plainfield: This, 286 00:40:20.150 --> 00:40:26.720 Town of Plainfield: this document goes with the relocation of the tenant, so I think this was… Yes. Right, so this just was… 287 00:40:27.510 --> 00:40:31.379 Town of Plainfield: We have this… Ariane, can I ask why… we have this as a package tonight. 288 00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:53.700 Town of Plainfield: That is a required form letter that, by the federal government, a possibility that this person may be legal if funding is provided. It does not commit the time to do anything, but it does… it is required that we mail this out to that person. Formally, and sign an acknowledgement of final letters. 289 00:40:53.700 --> 00:40:55.570 Town of Plainfield: Detroit. 290 00:40:55.690 --> 00:40:57.349 Town of Plainfield: The conference can handle with the information. 291 00:40:58.540 --> 00:41:00.689 Patti Jamele: Tell about the alarm. 292 00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:04.099 Town of Plainfield: Back up. 293 00:41:06.200 --> 00:41:10.900 Town of Plainfield: Yes, I think you're talking about something different, Ariane. There are two documents. 294 00:41:11.120 --> 00:41:13.890 Town of Plainfield: One is… the… 295 00:41:14.220 --> 00:41:27.659 Town of Plainfield: Relocation assistance to tenants displaced from their home. It's a HUD document, it's about 8 pages long. Then there is… then there is a second letter directly to, 296 00:41:27.930 --> 00:41:29.190 Town of Plainfield: Thomas Charts. 297 00:41:29.490 --> 00:41:33.130 Town of Plainfield: Which requires his signature. The general information notice at the top? 298 00:41:34.700 --> 00:41:40.690 Town of Plainfield: His letter says general information notice at the top. The other is relocation assistance. 299 00:41:42.460 --> 00:41:45.700 Town of Plainfield: My understanding is that we're required to do both of these. 300 00:41:49.680 --> 00:42:10.279 Town of Plainfield: Yes, we do need to send that. The other one is essentially, sorry, I… the other one is a handout that's supposed to go with the letter. That's right. That's the set, that's the other. So we don't have to officially sign people's documents. Exactly. The person gets the letter with this attachment. Exactly, yeah, correct. Thank you. Sorry, I never replied. 301 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:16.740 Town of Plainfield: All right, yeah. I would move that we send the letter to Thomas Jarvis, the General Information Notice. 302 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:23.170 Town of Plainfield: And, give him the handout of… Second, Scotland. 303 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:33.069 Town of Plainfield: Although… deliver that. I really think that should be mailed or delivered by a foundational. 304 00:42:33.220 --> 00:42:37.960 Town of Plainfield: I don't think somebody outside of the town could be delivering. 305 00:42:38.520 --> 00:42:44.760 Town of Plainfield: Well, we… Well, yeah, it… 306 00:42:45.180 --> 00:43:03.160 Town of Plainfield: She was appointed by the Select Board as a liaison on this project, and so she is, in that way, someone who we've given… empowered to do these kinds of things for the Select Board. Specifically meeting with our attorney over the, property 307 00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:10.779 Town of Plainfield: negotiations. Including this relocation. She's been working with this resident. Yeah, and our, and our attorney on that. 308 00:43:12.910 --> 00:43:14.639 Town of Plainfield: Okay, well… airports that… 309 00:43:15.350 --> 00:43:21.170 Town of Plainfield: both the owner of that property, the tenant of that property, and Sandy are all very comfortable with the situation. 310 00:43:22.810 --> 00:43:27.610 Town of Plainfield: We have a motion and a second, and all those in favor? 311 00:43:27.890 --> 00:43:29.860 Town of Plainfield: Bye. Bye. 312 00:43:30.690 --> 00:43:32.560 Town of Plainfield: And even Lucia. 313 00:43:32.790 --> 00:43:35.250 Town of Plainfield: Unanimous. 314 00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:45.950 Town of Plainfield: Sorry, Vermont, alright, next one. So, skipping the purchase and sale agreement, we don't have that. Vermont Community Development Program Policy Adoption. 315 00:43:47.620 --> 00:43:56.759 Town of Plainfield: Okay. That is the policies and… Municipal Policies and Codes document for an MP1, this one? 316 00:43:56.900 --> 00:44:00.150 Town of Plainfield: Perfect. 317 00:44:00.490 --> 00:44:01.230 Town of Plainfield: Biz. 318 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.790 Town of Plainfield: And that one, needs to be adopted. 319 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:11.400 Town of Plainfield: By the body. 320 00:44:16.140 --> 00:44:21.100 Town of Plainfield: And then, type names and signatures. So this is, 321 00:44:22.850 --> 00:44:29.039 Town of Plainfield: If the policy has an equal employment opportunity policy, A fair housing policy. 322 00:44:32.290 --> 00:44:37.590 Town of Plainfield: use of excessive force policy. All, all policies, 323 00:44:38.020 --> 00:44:56.789 Town of Plainfield: These were all given, and drug-free workplace, yeah. These are all the policies that we have to sign to be in compliance with the state, federal. Or federal. Yep. Whistleblower protections, texting while driving. Violence against women. Violence against women, accessibility, and 508 compliance. Yep. 324 00:44:57.090 --> 00:44:58.290 Town of Plainfield: That's all that. 325 00:44:59.310 --> 00:45:00.679 Town of Plainfield: Josh had to see. 326 00:45:00.990 --> 00:45:01.880 Town of Plainfield: Josh? 327 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:16.029 Town of Plainfield: But one thing to add, part of that package is also to be compliant with the CFR Part 200, so that meshes with our, you know, our area policy. So, this is another… 328 00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:17.960 Town of Plainfield: additional lever there. 329 00:45:18.220 --> 00:45:19.070 Town of Plainfield: P. 330 00:45:24.770 --> 00:45:25.730 Town of Plainfield: Oh, sorry. 331 00:45:25.860 --> 00:45:30.699 Town of Plainfield: I'd like to make a motion to adopt Vermont Community Development Program policy. 332 00:45:31.600 --> 00:45:32.650 Town of Plainfield: Second. 333 00:45:34.650 --> 00:45:37.870 Town of Plainfield: All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. 334 00:45:40.260 --> 00:45:45.370 Town of Plainfield: And lastly, then, the option for Habitat for Humanity, and this was, 335 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.840 Town of Plainfield: This is the option agreement that would, 336 00:45:49.850 --> 00:45:57.479 Town of Plainfield: Would allow that if we do get the grant and we have sufficient, funding to be able to grant those 337 00:45:57.790 --> 00:45:59.849 Town of Plainfield: 5 lots. 338 00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:19.069 Town of Plainfield: we'd be able to do that with this option agreement. If we don't get the money to do that… I'm sorry, I'm not being clear, I'm a little bit brain dead. It's just been days and days and days. So it's… so as to say, and I know you've already seen this document, but it's to give us the option to, 339 00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:25.020 Town of Plainfield: to grant the lots to Habitat, should we have the money to do so. Yes. Through the grant. 340 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:26.909 Town of Plainfield: And that's an option. 341 00:46:27.010 --> 00:46:29.100 Town of Plainfield: To be determined after you get the grant. 342 00:46:29.240 --> 00:46:47.940 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, and if you don't get it, and if we don't get it, it goes away. It goes away, yeah. It looks pretty clear to me. We did ask our attorney to look at this, and he has not gotten back to us yet. Okay. So, my only hesitation is to wait. And since we have to talk to him about other things. 343 00:46:48.140 --> 00:46:54.620 Town of Plainfield: I would… rather not vote on this one wave. I'm wondering if you could, vote on it conditionally? 344 00:46:54.730 --> 00:46:57.310 Town of Plainfield: To approve of… 345 00:46:57.700 --> 00:47:04.439 Town of Plainfield: With a condition that your attorney also recommends it? I'd be fine with that. I'd be fine with that. Thank you. 346 00:47:05.190 --> 00:47:06.620 Town of Plainfield: So we have a motion? 347 00:47:08.060 --> 00:47:10.959 Town of Plainfield: Make a motion to adopt and pass. 348 00:47:11.150 --> 00:47:21.179 Town of Plainfield: conditionally, the option for Habitat for Humanity, condition being that our attorney, Brian Amons, agrees with the option. 349 00:47:21.370 --> 00:47:22.280 Town of Plainfield: Great. 350 00:47:22.610 --> 00:47:28.960 Town of Plainfield: Second. Second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Added votes, yes. 351 00:47:29.240 --> 00:47:42.889 Town of Plainfield: That's my report. Thank you, Chris, all very much for calling your attention with that. Thank you. And get some rest. Thank you. Eventually. After the 30th. Thank you, Kim. Yep. 352 00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:54.290 Town of Plainfield: Okay, we're skipping, East Village Expansion Timeline… You know, process timeline. 353 00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:55.609 Town of Plainfield: Because of the… 354 00:47:59.050 --> 00:48:02.160 Town of Plainfield: No, that's… no, we're not skipping that. Sorry, I got the wrong one. 355 00:48:03.160 --> 00:48:08.729 Town of Plainfield: So, East Village pro- pro- process and timeline. 356 00:48:09.560 --> 00:48:11.199 Town of Plainfield: FAQs, who's this guy? 357 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:24.659 Town of Plainfield: It says FAQs. Oh, well, I'll report that we have updated the FAQs with the latest information from the grant, which we finished on Friday afternoon. 358 00:48:24.860 --> 00:48:29.320 Town of Plainfield: And, we were advised that the language had to be 359 00:48:29.570 --> 00:48:36.350 Town of Plainfield: consistent with the grant application, and so we've been working on updating that, and as far as I know, the latest 360 00:48:36.570 --> 00:48:39.910 Town of Plainfield: Version of that is online on the template side. 361 00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:57.150 Town of Plainfield: Okay, great. I'm wondering if we could crowdsource, because the landscape has changed, and the strategies have changed, to bring folks in who are simply listening, or are simply here, and who haven't read the FAQ. 362 00:48:57.150 --> 00:49:01.289 Town of Plainfield: What can we expect in the way of timeline going forward about 363 00:49:01.650 --> 00:49:14.849 Town of Plainfield: the village expansion project, this excavation. What are the… what are the hallmarks here? In order to answer that, I would have to go into the FAQs. Which… which I thought was… they were well done, I thought. 364 00:49:15.560 --> 00:49:17.679 Town of Plainfield: And lengthy. Yep. 365 00:49:19.030 --> 00:49:27.739 Town of Plainfield: But there is a timeline in there. I'm sensitive to… there's a lot of, I'm getting a lot of emails from people who 366 00:49:28.290 --> 00:49:31.339 Town of Plainfield: With, without the correct information. 367 00:49:31.590 --> 00:49:38.790 Town of Plainfield: Who are, you know, objecting for such and such reasons, but the reasons that they're objecting to 368 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:45.230 Town of Plainfield: are not actually what I know to be the present form of us. And so just to, like, as another… 369 00:49:45.290 --> 00:50:00.410 Town of Plainfield: piece of the record of what's coming, so folks can know what to expect. Sure. And is there a way to perhaps highlight with the word new, updated, or something on the website? Because you really have to go digging to find this. 370 00:50:00.450 --> 00:50:12.569 Town of Plainfield: The current version that I'm looking at basically specifies each question that's been updated and the date that it's been updated by, and most of them were done by, September 17th. 371 00:50:12.770 --> 00:50:15.930 Town of Plainfield: And the basic timeline here was… 372 00:50:16.270 --> 00:50:33.619 Town of Plainfield: basically, July… do you want me to go through the timeline? I mean, I guess I don't know how deep it is, but yes, I mean, broadly, like, what are the benchmarks? 34 major areas. Fantastic, thank you. So, it's July 2024 to April 2025, which is called the conceptual part of the plan. 373 00:50:33.710 --> 00:50:52.389 Town of Plainfield: Which was, to basically… we're well underway with this phase. It included rough financial guidelines for lot sales, including affordable lots, relative clarity about a permitting strategy, very rough graphic to show the fit of required lots, and a rough direction for funding. 374 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.070 Town of Plainfield: basis. 375 00:50:54.270 --> 00:51:00.170 Town of Plainfield: etc. May 2025 to September 25, schematic. 376 00:51:00.240 --> 00:51:07.030 Town of Plainfield: Agreement about a single solution, more detail of the financial structure, greater permitting clarity. 377 00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:21.749 Town of Plainfield: Sketch layout of a single option that was agreed to, public comment period, funding and expense clarity, including reworking cost estimates, identifying land costs, placing corresponding grant and or funding mechanism to match. 378 00:51:21.860 --> 00:51:26.290 Town of Plainfield: And then ongoing through Spring 2026, permitting. 379 00:51:26.510 --> 00:51:46.340 Town of Plainfield: has to overlap with other groups, must be carefully, strategically correspond to our decision-making process, and then construction drawings. When we start the documents to actually initiate construction, most of the committee work should be complete with permits secured and key decisions made. That should take about 3 months after the schematic. 380 00:51:46.370 --> 00:51:49.839 Town of Plainfield: Spring 2026 to Fall 2026. 381 00:51:50.330 --> 00:51:57.609 Town of Plainfield: lots and construction to TBD. So that was basically the timeline that, 382 00:51:57.670 --> 00:52:15.099 Town of Plainfield: Rick Burroughs gave me most recently, and so that's what we have in the FAQs. I do realize that it's been confusing for some people, because there is an archived version of the FAQs from the very inception of the project for when the advisory 383 00:52:15.350 --> 00:52:26.419 Town of Plainfield: when the committee was an ad hoc committee rather than an advisory committee appointed by the Select Board, we had a website, and we had FAQs. 384 00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:31.640 Town of Plainfield: Rather than just eliminating those. 385 00:52:31.810 --> 00:52:38.790 Town of Plainfield: Because we felt like people deserved to be able to go back to the beginning of the project and see 386 00:52:39.090 --> 00:52:53.459 Town of Plainfield: how it evolved, we left that archived version up on the website. So I think that is also perhaps a source of confusion. But over the last 2 or 3 weeks, I think since the last Select Board meeting. 387 00:52:53.530 --> 00:53:03.949 Town of Plainfield: We have been working diligently to update these FAQs. And as of Thursday afternoon, we were told that the language really needs to align 388 00:53:04.110 --> 00:53:09.299 Town of Plainfield: With the grant application so that the public is not confused. 389 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:17.719 Town of Plainfield: And so we attempted to make every answer consistent with the final text that was submitted in the grant. 390 00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.900 Town of Plainfield: And so, grant submission is… 391 00:53:21.230 --> 00:53:40.989 Town of Plainfield: It is the 30th. And then, how long until we hear back about the grant? Because it seems like, at this point, there's a lot being invested in the grant. That part. So, Karen Hatcher, the, so we submit on the 30th, the November 20th is the, the board meeting, the community board, 392 00:53:41.310 --> 00:53:51.510 Town of Plainfield: We're going to cover this on Thursday night, but… and then we expect that we'll hear, sometime in December or January about the grant decision. 393 00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:55.790 Town of Plainfield: How much, and for what? Because we have a number of elements in the grant. 394 00:53:55.930 --> 00:54:02.440 Town of Plainfield: The next several months will be, 395 00:54:02.680 --> 00:54:06.139 Town of Plainfield: We'll look like, depending on what we get, 396 00:54:06.530 --> 00:54:15.060 Town of Plainfield: What are the conditions of the grant, before we sign the grant agreement? What is it… what are we getting money for? What do we still need money for? 397 00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:27.360 Town of Plainfield: Where are there other resources if we do… if we do need to go get more money? How would the plan change if there isn't enough money? What things get… 398 00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:30.359 Town of Plainfield: The way the grant is put together. 399 00:54:30.740 --> 00:54:35.870 Town of Plainfield: It's asking for basically everything we could want. 400 00:54:36.420 --> 00:54:43.290 Town of Plainfield: With the idea that there's a Plan B if we don't get it, and the EVAC has a Plan B. 401 00:54:44.620 --> 00:54:51.050 Town of Plainfield: So we know there's room if we don't get all the money we're asking for to kind of come down from the big vision. 402 00:54:51.420 --> 00:54:59.240 Town of Plainfield: So there will be a several-month process, I think, where the group is going to need to, look again at what we've got. 403 00:54:59.350 --> 00:55:06.610 Town of Plainfield: And where do we go? And what has to change within that? And that… 404 00:55:07.160 --> 00:55:09.269 Dr. Philip Parisi: That would be the next part of the work. 405 00:55:09.270 --> 00:55:16.290 Town of Plainfield: That I would see that the committee… your advisory committee should be doing, along with the grants group, together, to try and… 406 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:30.059 Town of Plainfield: figure, because we do know that there may be other funding sources we could pursue if we come up short. Thank you. And so, it sounds like the answer from the board meeting on November 20 is going to be 407 00:55:30.070 --> 00:55:46.969 Town of Plainfield: sent to us December or January? Is that… Yeah, we… so we… each group is, does a couple-minute… 5-minute presentation to the board. They've all… they'll get everything, and then you get… you have 5 minutes. Okay. To kind of update maybe what's gone on since 408 00:55:46.970 --> 00:55:50.420 Town of Plainfield: they got your application. And then, 409 00:55:50.420 --> 00:55:58.820 Town of Plainfield: they make a recommendation to the, the Secretary of commerce, I think. Okay. 410 00:55:59.300 --> 00:56:12.939 Town of Plainfield: And then those decisions get made and announced. I think… I think before there's a formal announcement, the groups are… are contacted. But I've not been through this before. Yeah. I think, but that's what they've told me. And then we'll know. 411 00:56:13.100 --> 00:56:30.929 Town of Plainfield: So we won't have a formal, formal agreement presented to us, for probably another month plus. So it's just… it takes time to work through all of the… After that November 20th meeting, is it likely that they'll say, we think you should get 412 00:56:31.350 --> 00:56:33.249 Town of Plainfield: No, they don't do that. Okay. 413 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:35.120 Dr. Philip Parisi: Excuse me? 414 00:56:35.900 --> 00:56:37.090 Town of Plainfield: Hello? 415 00:56:37.650 --> 00:56:45.180 Dr. Philip Parisi: I have been having my hand raised, and I've been trying… this hasn't been an opportune moment to interrupt you, but I… 416 00:56:45.600 --> 00:56:55.529 Dr. Philip Parisi: I think it's the best I can do. So, just want to let you know, I have a couple of questions, so whenever you want to hear them, you know, I know I interrupted you, but I've been waiting, like, 10 minutes. 417 00:56:55.530 --> 00:56:59.459 Town of Plainfield: So… Is it… is it… it's related to this specific item? 418 00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:00.789 Dr. Philip Parisi: Yes, yes, absolutely. 419 00:57:01.290 --> 00:57:05.260 Town of Plainfield: It's related to the FAQ, the frequently asked questions. 420 00:57:05.590 --> 00:57:07.559 Dr. Philip Parisi: I have a couple of questions. 421 00:57:08.240 --> 00:57:10.150 Town of Plainfield: Is it about the grant? 422 00:57:10.150 --> 00:57:16.510 Dr. Philip Parisi: Yeah, it is about the grants, about the whole expansion thing. I have, like, 3 or 4 questions, so I'm happy to wait. 423 00:57:16.510 --> 00:57:16.910 Town of Plainfield: state. 424 00:57:16.910 --> 00:57:19.110 Dr. Philip Parisi: I didn't think anybody saw me, that's all. 425 00:57:19.500 --> 00:57:27.379 Town of Plainfield: What's that? It should come Thursday. Yeah, can you come Thursday? Because we're going to be having a lengthy discussion about it, and we're trying to get through it. 426 00:57:27.380 --> 00:57:33.129 Dr. Philip Parisi: Yeah, well, I'm a little confused. Why can't I ask you and Karen the questions I have? 427 00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:36.809 Dr. Philip Parisi: I mean, I don't see why I have to wait till Thursday. 428 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:45.090 Town of Plainfield: We announced in public comment that folks could give public comment, but that we weren't going to be discussing the EVAC project or the grant until Thursday. 429 00:57:45.230 --> 00:57:46.860 Town of Plainfield: Well, I was gonna be a public comment. 430 00:57:46.860 --> 00:57:56.040 Dr. Philip Parisi: Excuse me, I wasn't gonna make a comment, I was gonna ask questions. There's a distinction between making a public comment 431 00:57:56.200 --> 00:58:03.040 Dr. Philip Parisi: and asking questions. So, the answer is, I will hold my questions till Thursday. 432 00:58:03.190 --> 00:58:07.279 Town of Plainfield: Thank you. I think it'll be better for the whole process. 433 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:11.459 Dr. Philip Parisi: I don't think so, I don't agree, but I'll acquiesce to your decision. 434 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.550 Town of Plainfield: Okay, 435 00:58:16.680 --> 00:58:35.409 Town of Plainfield: You were interrupted, so I don't… I don't know where we were. Yeah, I don't know where we were either. You were… you were describing the process, and I had asked a question about the… whether we would know… They don't show their… they don't show their hand before the official letter. Yeah, yeah, and they don't know either. Well, no, they just make a recommendation, but they don't also want to show… 436 00:58:35.580 --> 00:58:52.669 Town of Plainfield: But they made recommendations that the Secretary didn't follow through on, so we won't… we won't have that. And in the presentation on Thursday night, we will… there is a slide that just… that describes how they score us, what they're looking for, so we'll share that so you'll know. Okay. 437 00:58:52.690 --> 00:59:11.889 Town of Plainfield: our presentation on Thursday, just so you know, and I don't… this is your part, is… is, front end of it is so folks understand what the… what the grant is, and how it works, and kind of the mechanism of it, the stuff about that, and then about what ours is, and how it fits, right? So it's… 438 00:59:11.940 --> 00:59:17.830 Town of Plainfield: And then… then there's the open comment, etc. Great, all the questions, yeah. 439 00:59:18.220 --> 00:59:21.900 Town of Plainfield: Great. Thank you. Okay, I just wanted to, 440 00:59:22.420 --> 00:59:47.380 Town of Plainfield: I'm looking at Lauren, she's the primary author of the FAQ. With a committee. Oh, I know there's a whole bunch of people. Yeah, but if there's a way to get that highlighted on the town website, that would be really good. It's on the town website. You might have highlighted, though. Yeah, you gotta dig for it. I'll make a request, Bob. Yeah. Oh, okay. See how it can be more easily accessed? Yeah, absolutely. 441 00:59:47.380 --> 00:59:52.899 Town of Plainfield: recent ver… you know, some kind of headline on it, so… Yes, okay. Yes, I can… 442 00:59:53.100 --> 01:00:03.760 Kim Madalinski: Yeah, I'm on… I'm online here. I can get in touch with Bob with that, and just to speak to the… Peter, I think you said people have to dig for that. We took out the 443 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:19.159 Kim Madalinski: a layer. It's closer to… it's more accessible now, it's on a web page, and it's not one static document. It can be updated routinely, and we can update… we can update questions one by one, we can add questions. 444 01:00:19.160 --> 01:00:27.140 Kim Madalinski: We also have… we encourage people to send us their questions at villageexpansion at plainfieldvt.gov. 445 01:00:27.410 --> 01:00:32.440 Kim Madalinski: And, people do reach out to us, and we get back to them right away. 446 01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:34.610 Town of Plainfield: Great. 447 01:00:34.830 --> 01:00:35.620 Kim Madalinski: Okay. 448 01:00:35.620 --> 01:00:36.540 Town of Plainfield: Okay. 449 01:00:37.130 --> 01:00:43.690 Town of Plainfield: We're trying to move forward here. Can we… Timeline? 450 01:00:44.580 --> 01:00:46.980 Town of Plainfield: Oh, okay, we just talked about it, go ahead. 451 01:00:47.300 --> 01:00:51.179 Town of Plainfield: My question, so, I know it was indicated that 452 01:00:51.180 --> 01:01:07.370 Town of Plainfield: We were going to do the drafts. This isn't just the draft of the grant, and then it's going to be modified. Is it going to go back out to the community for additional comments, or is the grant material going to stay the same during that timeline? There won't be any major modifications to the grant. 453 01:01:07.370 --> 01:01:21.519 Town of Plainfield: It's just that we, Tim, we have to add the minutes from the meeting, the recording, and any of the communications that folks send in have to be… also be looped in, so there's just a number of things that have to be added in. 454 01:01:21.520 --> 01:01:35.200 Town of Plainfield: There's change. Nothing modified. There's a couple of typos. No, there's some typos, and there's a… there's like a… it says 20% match on the EWP, it's 25%. It's like, there's… there's a couple of places where things just aren't quite right, we need to fix. 455 01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:36.240 Town of Plainfield: Yeah. That's it. 456 01:01:36.270 --> 01:01:46.439 Town of Plainfield: Okay, so it's just an idea. Okay. Nothing of substance. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Yep. Go ahead. Quickly, please, Cyron. 457 01:01:46.790 --> 01:02:02.370 Town of Plainfield: And it's just for Thursday, and it's to Karen. As part of your presentation, will you be showing a timeline, that occurs after they come back and say, for example, we're approved? Yep. Okay, thank you for that. Okay, 458 01:02:03.310 --> 01:02:12.729 Town of Plainfield: the East Village expansion process and timeline. Did we cover that, okay. VCF Phase 2 Engineering. 459 01:02:13.230 --> 01:02:14.590 Town of Plainfield: Loan follow-up. 460 01:02:17.180 --> 01:02:18.919 Town of Plainfield: Luke can tell us about that. 461 01:02:19.500 --> 01:02:29.939 Town of Plainfield: I believe these are… two documents that the Select Board did not act on And he had a… 462 01:02:30.630 --> 01:02:34.209 Town of Plainfield: Motion to go ahead with the loan. 463 01:02:34.450 --> 01:02:46.600 Town of Plainfield: the motion at the time was sort of a general motion, but it did not include these two documents. Oh, okay. So that's why these are in here. Okay. This is from Bond Council, so… 464 01:02:46.660 --> 01:03:02.620 Town of Plainfield: Okay. One is just an IRS tax certificate, but there's a resolution in there, and they're just boilerplate that has to go with those types… This follows our previous decision? Yeah, this is the Vermont Community Foundation $150,000 loan. 465 01:03:02.620 --> 01:03:10.449 Town of Plainfield: That we had to meet some different things, the ethics things and stuff. We've met that. We had a vote to take the loan that we didn't vote. 466 01:03:10.450 --> 01:03:30.270 Town of Plainfield: to do the tax certificate… Right. …and the other document that we need to do on our side, so we haven't… we have not executed the loan, or received funds. Right. Okay. Make a motion to formally adopt for the VCF Phase 2 engineering loan the current expense notes and the tax certificate. 467 01:03:35.040 --> 01:03:37.160 Town of Plainfield: Second? Second. 468 01:03:38.830 --> 01:03:42.090 Town of Plainfield: May all those in favor, then, say aye? 469 01:03:42.220 --> 01:03:43.620 Town of Plainfield: Bye. Bye. 470 01:03:44.540 --> 01:03:50.509 Town of Plainfield: This… this requires the clerk, the treasurer, and a majority of the select board to sign, so we'll have to… 471 01:03:50.770 --> 01:04:01.050 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, thanks for keeping track of all the different… signatures… 472 01:04:04.090 --> 01:04:07.550 Town of Plainfield: I think it's the treasurer on the IRS note, right? 473 01:04:09.890 --> 01:04:12.649 Town of Plainfield: Next item is bond and loan related. 474 01:04:13.160 --> 01:04:17.380 Town of Plainfield: Authorization of necessary resolution and warning for town votes. 475 01:04:18.050 --> 01:04:21.630 Town of Plainfield: An EVE property loan. 476 01:04:23.570 --> 01:04:26.790 Town of Plainfield: and the Declaration of Official Intent. 477 01:04:27.570 --> 01:04:38.210 Town of Plainfield: Do we have these stock ones? Yes, they came from, the bond… from Bond Council, as well, from Eli. The resolution certificate is, 478 01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:43.939 Town of Plainfield: It'll have Carol Smith as Assistant Talent Clerk, because Sam is a party, so… 479 01:04:44.230 --> 01:04:49.629 Town of Plainfield: So this is, Carol did that. And this will warn 480 01:04:49.770 --> 01:04:56.229 Town of Plainfield: a vote, and it includes language for the ballot for November 4th. 481 01:04:56.300 --> 01:05:14.460 Town of Plainfield: and the article. I can read the article. It says, shall the Select Board be authorized, but not obligated, to issue general obligation bonds or notes in an amount not to exceed $600,000, subject to reduction by the application of federal and state grants and aid and reserve funds. 482 01:05:14.470 --> 01:05:33.400 Town of Plainfield: be issued for the purpose of acquiring real property at 68 East Hill Road and 266 West Main Street, the estimated cost of such acquisition being $600,000. That's the price plus closing costs, especially slightly less than that. It's been pointed out that we don't have a West Main Street 483 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:40.520 Town of Plainfield: But yeah, I think the property is, known by its, deeds. 484 01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:48.539 Town of Plainfield: There's a certificate of posting, publication, and warnings, etc, etc. 485 01:05:48.650 --> 01:05:55.519 Town of Plainfield: As you would for any ballot item. And basically, this is to piggyback a town vote with the, 486 01:05:56.060 --> 01:06:01.809 Town of Plainfield: bond vote that the Central Vermont Career Center is running on November 4th. 487 01:06:02.020 --> 01:06:14.080 Town of Plainfield: As it makes it a little more efficient. Well, yeah, I just… maybe to say explicitly, so… so this would be, on November 4th, a vote to say, should we buy the property, the East Village Expansion property? 488 01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:26.810 Town of Plainfield: For, I think the… it is… it is… it is allowing us to do so, but not requiring us to do so. We… we… we couldn't do a requirement vote in this way, I don't think, but it's more of a… it is the kind of an advisory vote. 489 01:06:26.850 --> 01:06:36.389 Town of Plainfield: That I know a lot of people in town have been hoping for, and it is specifically around the property. The reason it's allowed to do it and not obligate is because if we 490 01:06:36.740 --> 01:06:48.059 Town of Plainfield: don't get the big grant, or we decide for whatever reason it doesn't actually make sense for us to buy the property. It wouldn't walk the town into doing it, but it would be the voters letting us know that they want us to do it. 491 01:06:48.210 --> 01:07:00.489 Town of Plainfield: And it's November 4th, because it's also the career school's vote, so we don't have to pay extra for another vote, and I think we have another just a couple days to get into that notice period. 492 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:01.780 Town of Plainfield: Yep. 493 01:07:02.530 --> 01:07:05.559 Town of Plainfield: Marianne, do you have… 494 01:07:06.020 --> 01:07:21.290 Town of Plainfield: If we don't get the full grant funding for this, we have to develop, as we've already been discussing in the peaceful experience, what a Plan B contingency would look like, which could include additional bonding, particularly with CHIP funding. 495 01:07:22.090 --> 01:07:36.119 Town of Plainfield: Doesn't voting for this, and then finding out about the grant afterwards put us in a potential situation where we likely have to vote again? And do we sort of have a little bit of a fatigue of voting on this issue over and over again? 496 01:07:36.980 --> 01:07:48.130 Town of Plainfield: Peter? I don't think so, because if… if we're going to have to bond, that's gonna require a vote anyway, so it would just be subsumed into that. This is… this is authorizing, not 497 01:07:48.180 --> 01:07:52.589 Town of Plainfield: obligating. And if we are to, get 498 01:07:52.590 --> 01:08:16.859 Town of Plainfield: the grant successfully. This allows us to move forward expeditiously, rather than doing that. Because our next option for the vote would… Would be town meeting. I understand that, and in that way, I do think there's a little bit of a legitimate dilemma here. The challenge is, is that we've sort of been told that you put in, you know, as much money as you can come up to ask. 499 01:08:16.859 --> 01:08:21.240 Town of Plainfield: And the likelihood that you get full funding is not, like. 500 01:08:21.250 --> 01:08:36.660 Town of Plainfield: And so, if we're in a situation where we likely need to buy the land on a bond and bond for another million dollars of CHIP funding, for example, throwing a hypothetical situation out there, we then would need to have another bond vote 501 01:08:36.850 --> 01:08:51.399 Town of Plainfield: later, after we know the details of the grant, and it just causes them to start the cycle all over again. So, I don't know that… I don't know that there's a perfect answer. It is the dilemma, but I wanted to make it clear that we may end up in this situation. 502 01:08:51.510 --> 01:08:53.300 Town of Plainfield: Bram. 503 01:08:53.640 --> 01:09:01.529 Town of Plainfield: I was not made aware of this dovetailing of the bond vote with this other vote, and I just want to make sure that 504 01:09:02.390 --> 01:09:12.540 Town of Plainfield: that the procedure for warnings has been fulfilled? Are there any issues? We have to do it, no… there's a period 505 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:37.040 Town of Plainfield: I think it's 30 days prior to… you can't do it, you know, before such and such a date. If we adopt this tonight, we meet the obligation. The earliest time we can warn it, I believe, is the… is the 25th, or the 25th. The bond attorney gave us all of the… Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, and we cleared… and we cleared it with the… with the league and whatnot, so… Okay, that's fine. And it's, you know, it saves us money by not 506 01:09:37.040 --> 01:09:38.989 Town of Plainfield: We're having to do our own 507 01:09:38.990 --> 01:09:41.809 Town of Plainfield: election, since we're there any sure that the… 508 01:09:41.810 --> 01:09:49.350 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Josh? Just clarifying, which bond attorney? Was that Elijah? Yeah, that's Elijah. Yeah. 509 01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:50.439 Town of Plainfield: Yes. 510 01:09:52.240 --> 01:09:59.420 Town of Plainfield: Emerson. Eli Emerson. Out of naivete, what is the difference between a loan and a bond? 511 01:10:03.990 --> 01:10:13.900 Town of Plainfield: I'm not sure there's… it's a… it's an issue without… it's a difference without a distinction, if that's the right phrase here. 512 01:10:14.170 --> 01:10:18.760 Town of Plainfield: As restricted, or whatever, in state statute. 513 01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:28.530 Town of Plainfield: In this particular case, I think you have to look at the terms that are being proposed here. So, let's choose more than a year and a half and less than 5 years. 514 01:10:28.790 --> 01:10:36.609 Town of Plainfield: And there are also requirements for bonding that go if you go beyond 5 years or over certain amounts. 515 01:10:38.180 --> 01:10:53.780 Town of Plainfield: Loans don't have to even be voted on certain… by the… by the populace, if they are within 12 months and less than a million dollars. No, they're… you know, again, you have to look at the particulars. Here, we were discussing Eval. 516 01:10:54.070 --> 01:10:56.130 Town of Plainfield: Here, we're discussing a loan. 517 01:10:56.910 --> 01:10:58.920 Town of Plainfield: Of up to 600,000. 518 01:11:02.630 --> 01:11:04.560 Town of Plainfield: I'm putting more than 5 here. 519 01:11:05.290 --> 01:11:06.889 Town of Plainfield: In less than 5 years. 520 01:11:09.470 --> 01:11:13.309 Town of Plainfield: Was that your question, Elena? No, I agree. 521 01:11:14.300 --> 01:11:16.609 Town of Plainfield: I'm gonna delay that. 522 01:11:18.080 --> 01:11:22.659 Town of Plainfield: On the other note, from what Erin is saying, 523 01:11:22.900 --> 01:11:29.890 Town of Plainfield: If there is a vote, and it's voted down, how does that affect the grant application? 524 01:11:30.490 --> 01:11:35.620 Town of Plainfield: Well, the grant will already be in, so… The grant will already be in, right, the grant will already be in. 525 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:40.069 Town of Plainfield: I mean, I… I think it's good timing, for it all, personally. 526 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.619 Town of Plainfield: Okay, go ahead. 527 01:11:45.390 --> 01:12:01.500 Town of Plainfield: I went to the meeting, and the, Liz, the grant writer, had also indicated that if the town takes, or is ex… the grant is approved for the town, and then we turn that down, it could affect us 528 01:12:01.650 --> 01:12:04.009 Town of Plainfield: Down the road, for federal… 529 01:12:04.010 --> 01:12:22.480 Town of Plainfield: grants, so by doing the vote at this point, if we find that that changes how the town wants to continue, by having the vote in November, it will allow us to withdraw our application if necessary. I'm just throwing out different options depending on how the vote comes, so I support the… 530 01:12:22.480 --> 01:12:24.200 Town of Plainfield: Suggestion. Yep. 531 01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:26.580 Town of Plainfield: sort of medicine. 532 01:12:26.970 --> 01:12:35.089 Town of Plainfield: Perfect. Okay, I would move that we adopt the resolution certificate. 533 01:12:35.410 --> 01:12:43.309 Town of Plainfield: An official ballot, a certificate of posting, publication, and vote, and declaration of intent. 534 01:12:43.480 --> 01:12:48.000 Town of Plainfield: To reimburse from the proceeds of the indebtedness. 535 01:12:49.110 --> 01:12:52.130 Town of Plainfield: I think those are the documents. Okay. 536 01:12:52.650 --> 01:13:08.770 Town of Plainfield: Second. I just asked a quick question. Sure. So, on the… on the agenda, the necessity resolution and warning of town vote is one line, and the declaration of official intent is a separate vote line. Are you putting those two together? Yes. Okay, I just want to make sure I have… 537 01:13:08.890 --> 01:13:23.620 Town of Plainfield: And hopefully Jamie can get your notion sooner than I got it. Well, the resolution certificate was one document that had several things contained in it, and the second was the declaration. 538 01:13:28.220 --> 01:13:34.680 Town of Plainfield: Okay, we have motion and a second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 539 01:13:35.180 --> 01:13:36.459 Town of Plainfield: I'm Cezanne? 540 01:13:40.160 --> 01:13:42.740 Town of Plainfield: Okay, no. 541 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:59.680 Town of Plainfield: Can you describe this next one, the statement of board support to alternative plans to grow housing opportunities locally? Sure. 542 01:13:59.960 --> 01:14:10.199 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of… there's a lot of talk around town about this project. Some vary for the possibility, some vary against the possibility. 543 01:14:10.500 --> 01:14:21.499 Town of Plainfield: And there was… murmurings across this board about, I wonder if the people know that we welcome other ideas. 544 01:14:21.620 --> 01:14:22.970 Town of Plainfield: We do. 545 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:28.399 Town of Plainfield: We welcome all other potential new housing ideas. 546 01:14:29.160 --> 01:14:34.939 Town of Plainfield: This is… A semi-formal statement as it's happening as a part of a select board meeting. 547 01:14:35.770 --> 01:14:43.590 Town of Plainfield: The last time it was suggested that we form a Plainfield Housing Committee. 548 01:14:44.210 --> 01:14:57.130 Town of Plainfield: no one came forward to focalize and make that happen, and it was posed, posited, that if we wait for Plainfield Forward to help us. 549 01:14:57.320 --> 01:15:12.090 Town of Plainfield: like, put fuel under the fire of alternative housing possibilities that could, like, foment a body into being. An official body owable to town meeting law, as is the EVIAC committee. 550 01:15:12.500 --> 01:15:14.660 Town of Plainfield: We still welcome 551 01:15:15.650 --> 01:15:24.759 Town of Plainfield: a Plainfield Housing Committee to explore all viable housing alternatives, so it's not just this one on the table. 552 01:15:26.240 --> 01:15:30.009 Town of Plainfield: We are exploring this one, because it's the only one on the table. 553 01:15:30.140 --> 01:15:32.349 Town of Plainfield: It's the only one that there's life behind. 554 01:15:34.620 --> 01:15:46.140 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, Peter. I would add, mentioning the playing field forward, I mean, I went to the meeting the other night, and after a couple of rounds of voting, 555 01:15:46.450 --> 01:16:06.049 Town of Plainfield: the Resiliency Hub and Developing Housing Strategy were the, by far, the top two vote-getters. In fact, there were a couple of other housing-related things, and Arian tried to push them together, but was unsuccessful. Sort of. Sort of. But, there's a whole lot of interest. 556 01:16:06.050 --> 01:16:18.840 Town of Plainfield: Yeah. In housing. And, you know, people are talking about Goddard, and people are talking about, you know, derelict homes, and fill-in space, and stuff like that. There are… there are things that can be done, and we need 557 01:16:19.120 --> 01:16:22.770 Town of Plainfield: We need housing. The state needs housing. 558 01:16:23.500 --> 01:16:29.960 Town of Plainfield: Employers need housing. Employees need housing. The challenge is people need housing. Housing is important. 559 01:16:30.280 --> 01:16:36.290 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, and the challenge for the board is, we don't create subjects to study and to vote on. 560 01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:49.119 Town of Plainfield: we need to get the public to bring things to us and say, as Arian did last… a year ago, August, would… would you be interested in having me pursue an idea to get housing? 561 01:16:49.420 --> 01:16:57.789 Town of Plainfield: And we said yes. And if somebody had said, I'd like to bring a motion, or I'd like to bring a group together to talk about derelict housing. 562 01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:03.750 Town of Plainfield: I'm sure we would say yes, but that we need that energy from the community. 563 01:17:03.930 --> 01:17:05.350 Town of Plainfield: And, 564 01:17:05.990 --> 01:17:14.130 Town of Plainfield: This is the one we're focused on, because it's the one that's gotten a huge amount of time and energy and thought, and… 565 01:17:14.950 --> 01:17:17.399 Town of Plainfield: Has not seemed like it's a… 566 01:17:18.140 --> 01:17:20.240 Town of Plainfield: It seems like it's a viable option. 567 01:17:20.360 --> 01:17:21.180 Town of Plainfield: Still. 568 01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:23.510 Town of Plainfield: We just have to take the steps. 569 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:26.610 Town of Plainfield: So, thank you. 570 01:17:30.450 --> 01:17:35.350 Town of Plainfield: So, the next item on this here is the Road Commissioner Report. 571 01:17:40.320 --> 01:17:41.040 Town of Plainfield: Oops. 572 01:17:48.650 --> 01:17:54.610 Town of Plainfield: So, for the, for the… upcoming… 573 01:17:55.010 --> 01:17:57.779 Town of Plainfield: Blackboard meeting, we have the, 574 01:18:02.260 --> 01:18:04.920 Town of Plainfield: Meredith, I didn't see your information. Let's see. 575 01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:06.940 Town of Plainfield: There it is. 576 01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:14.520 Town of Plainfield: Mostly I wanted to discuss the FHWA progress. We have this, 577 01:18:15.100 --> 01:18:22.830 Town of Plainfield: The… the part of the process that gains… garners the most public input is going to be the, 578 01:18:23.040 --> 01:18:35.870 Town of Plainfield: It's the next agenda item, but I want to talk about that. At least it's the most important thing coming up. The, is the, this public input and, feedback to the alternative presentations. 579 01:18:35.990 --> 01:18:48.339 Town of Plainfield: So, our, design firm, Boys and King, has come up with… You're talking the Brook Road, Mill Street stuff? Yes, the two bridges, Bridge 20 and Bridge 21. 580 01:18:48.500 --> 01:18:57.180 Town of Plainfield: Those projects will have a public, need to have a public information session, and I reached out to you all about scheduling that. 581 01:18:57.350 --> 01:18:59.890 Town of Plainfield: on the Tuesday meeting in October, the… 582 01:19:00.290 --> 01:19:04.430 Town of Plainfield: Is it Monday because that's Indigenous Peoples Day. And the, 583 01:19:04.610 --> 01:19:15.220 Town of Plainfield: And the features of that meeting are that our municipal project manager will present the alternatives in conjunction with our design firm. 584 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:28.910 Town of Plainfield: to the public, take in public comment for these two locations, the bridge over the Mill Street, but it's a temporary bridge, and the one around the corner, Bridge 21, which is the Brook Road Village Bridge right there. 585 01:19:29.010 --> 01:19:35.400 Town of Plainfield: And you'll be able to see, like, the different proposals and, you know, what a cost. 586 01:19:35.400 --> 01:19:39.430 Town of Plainfield: breakdown analysis. And, and then… 587 01:19:39.430 --> 01:19:57.630 Town of Plainfield: that's feedback that the Select Board would use to make a selection to move forward. I don't believe we have to take any action that evening, but we need to get that feedback from the public. It's an important part of that. Is this including designs of… 588 01:19:57.670 --> 01:20:05.699 Town of Plainfield: Bridges? I mean, this is… so they'll have some options… Right. Okay. …to give you… to get public input on. Good, good. 589 01:20:05.780 --> 01:20:12.929 Town of Plainfield: We already do that for Bridge. I don't know which one it is, but they… 590 01:20:12.930 --> 01:20:26.590 Town of Plainfield: old one, not the temporary one, but the other one. I thought we had already done that. It's… it's a new bridge. Due to the… due to the, nature of the 24 flood, that bridge design was… 591 01:20:26.590 --> 01:20:37.189 Town of Plainfield: deemed, unworkable. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we had gone a long way with that, but unfortunately… To clarify the… 592 01:20:37.330 --> 01:20:45.249 Town of Plainfield: the hearing time and date, Tuesday, October 14th, is it a part of the regular Select Board meeting, or does it start early? It would be… 593 01:20:45.340 --> 01:20:57.869 Town of Plainfield: It's up to you, if you want to have it be part of the regular Select Board meeting. That's what was recommended by the project manager, and if… 594 01:20:58.390 --> 01:21:18.020 Town of Plainfield: your schedule doesn't look like that's workable, we'll schedule a separate meeting, but the recommendation was to bring it to the Select Board and have it be part of the Select Board meeting process. I'd be in favor of doing it at the Select Board meeting. Do we want to start back the clock to start 5 30, or keep it at 6? 595 01:21:18.330 --> 01:21:23.430 Town of Plainfield: Oh, I guess we could do it earlier, to make it a… 596 01:21:23.770 --> 01:21:37.519 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, I mean, we want some public… if it's a select board meeting, it's really primarily for the Select Board to hear testimony, but we want the public to be involved as well, and we want to hear from the public, so the question is going to be. 597 01:21:37.530 --> 01:21:46.460 Town of Plainfield: Is it going to be a public meeting, or is it a select board meeting? There has to be a public input. There has to be a board public meeting. So that would be it? 598 01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:47.560 Town of Plainfield: Then… 599 01:21:47.700 --> 01:22:04.559 Town of Plainfield: Right? Well, I would just say, I think for getting actual people to weigh in, it might be better if we start at 6, because people know that's when we start, and I think sometimes when we do these 5.30 meetings, we don't see a lot of public… in the public input. I would just say that we would just need to 600 01:22:04.890 --> 01:22:10.949 Town of Plainfield: limit the other topics for the… for the Select Board meeting. I think it could be fine. We could… 601 01:22:11.130 --> 01:22:33.970 Town of Plainfield: lose some regular reports, we could give Karen a meeting off, since she'll have been done at the grant. Yeah, we can, like, just have… make sure we don't overstuff our meeting with other things, and just make it a part of a 6 o'clock. We do need to have some legal public notice on that, so it's a… it's a public hearing for that, and a select board meeting, right? I think it's… 602 01:22:33.970 --> 01:22:35.170 Town of Plainfield: a hearing. 603 01:22:35.490 --> 01:22:40.140 Town of Plainfield: I think it… Double check, please? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 604 01:22:40.920 --> 01:23:00.480 Town of Plainfield: Yeah. Because if it is a hearing, then it needs 15-day notice, and so then we just need to… But if it's a select board meeting, it does not, yeah. But I offer a suggestion, that if you started at 5.30 and did the business of the Select Board first, and then slated the hearing to start a little bit later, you might get a better crowd for the… that part. 605 01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:05.199 Town of Plainfield: If he wanted to. He wouldn't have to go so late, maybe. Yeah. 606 01:23:05.660 --> 01:23:09.459 Town of Plainfield: What do you think? I mean, that's a good, good idea. 607 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:11.070 Town of Plainfield: I'd be game for that. 608 01:23:11.300 --> 01:23:20.120 Town of Plainfield: We could do a 5.30 to 7 select board meeting and a 7… 7.30, like, just say we're only doing an hour and a half, and make sure we… we schedule that way. 609 01:23:20.450 --> 01:23:21.430 Town of Plainfield: Yeah. 610 01:23:22.890 --> 01:23:24.470 Town of Plainfield: In fact, I think that makes sense. 611 01:23:24.700 --> 01:23:25.540 Town of Plainfield: Okay. 612 01:23:27.170 --> 01:23:35.470 Town of Plainfield: So the public part would be after 5.30? At 7. At 7, yeah. You set a time, you still have time to set a time? Does the project manager think this will take? 613 01:23:36.050 --> 01:23:39.729 Town of Plainfield: We'll have to check with them, make sure they can get here. 614 01:23:40.210 --> 01:23:49.709 Town of Plainfield: I'm unsure, it's 2, so I'll double check with him. I don't believe it's a public hearing, but I'll get confirmation from our… our MPM, that's Evan Dietrich. 615 01:23:49.870 --> 01:23:53.720 Town of Plainfield: So, I'll get that to you, and you'll be able to… 616 01:23:54.370 --> 01:24:03.559 Town of Plainfield: you know, set your meeting as… as needed. I mean, we might… also might, like, warn a thing from 5.30 to 7, and it only takes a half an hour, and we're sitting around doing nothing, so… 617 01:24:04.320 --> 01:24:12.740 Town of Plainfield: We don't have to warn the end time, usually, with these things. You have to warn the start time. Yeah. But if you tell the public that you're gonna have this at… 618 01:24:12.740 --> 01:24:25.459 Town of Plainfield: 7. Yeah, well… Then, if you guys get all your business… We have never, we have never beaten our expected timeline on a meeting. Dan reminds me of this all the time. I did one. So I wouldn't worry about that. 619 01:24:26.830 --> 01:24:36.919 Town of Plainfield: Oh my god. Okay, well, let's, let's… Just to clarify, Elena, the… it's a select board meeting, so it is public. 620 01:24:37.070 --> 01:24:51.779 Town of Plainfield: But there is the hearing portion that is distinct from the regular business of the meeting. They're both public, you're welcome to be here for the entire thing. I just can't get here at 5 minutes. Yeah, yeah, but that's going to be official, if we're going to do it this way, that's going to be the official 621 01:24:51.780 --> 01:25:05.510 Town of Plainfield: select board meeting, and then the board meeting will start early, and the hearing will be later, or whatever it is, the presentation. Yeah, and let's hear. I mean, maybe they tell us it's an hour, and then we gotta rethink it again, but let's… let's get some information from our 622 01:25:05.590 --> 01:25:08.419 Town of Plainfield: Du Bois and King, right? 623 01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:10.030 Town of Plainfield: Yep. Yep. 624 01:25:10.750 --> 01:25:11.650 Town of Plainfield: Great. 625 01:25:12.350 --> 01:25:14.139 Town of Plainfield: Anything else, Josh? 626 01:25:16.400 --> 01:25:18.800 Town of Plainfield: Nothing, 627 01:25:20.990 --> 01:25:44.680 Town of Plainfield: Still fighting the good fight with FEMAPA. Yeah, I'm sure. I do have one little road-related thing. I worked with Holden Thompson from UVM. He had a… he had a crew of students come down and do a survey of a road that needed attention, and we chose Gore Road, and in particular, the culvert there. And so, a team of four. 628 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:49.159 Town of Plainfield: I met a… I met a team of 4 students, and they took… 629 01:25:49.160 --> 01:25:51.440 Town of Plainfield: They were surveying, and they were… 630 01:25:51.640 --> 01:26:10.480 Town of Plainfield: looking for ideas, so I don't know where it's going, but I just wanted people to know that, that was done, and they… they offered to do that at no charge to town. So he's… he's… they're… they're presenting it to their team of advisors, so we may hear some little report on that. 631 01:26:15.660 --> 01:26:18.880 Town of Plainfield: That's good. That's it. Okay. 632 01:26:19.340 --> 01:26:21.119 Town of Plainfield: That's it. 633 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:30.260 Town of Plainfield: opioids. We just did the… we just did the scheduling of the presentation of alternative bridges. 634 01:26:30.890 --> 01:26:33.119 Town of Plainfield: Opioid settlement action. 635 01:26:35.070 --> 01:26:48.330 Town of Plainfield: The window is closing. This is our last opportunity to act on the opioid settlement. And explain what this is again for those who may not know. This was a national lawsuit brought against the opioid industrial complex. 636 01:26:48.580 --> 01:26:52.260 Town of Plainfield: And… Yeah, it was… 637 01:26:52.900 --> 01:27:00.179 Town of Plainfield: Towns are eligible, all towns are eligible to recoup any funds coming from the settlement. 638 01:27:00.240 --> 01:27:14.439 Town of Plainfield: this question has come before us previously. We had kind of punted it back for more information, and I think, honestly, we're still waiting for more information, and maybe… Do you have more information? Well, I… I mean, I just… 639 01:27:14.570 --> 01:27:32.060 Town of Plainfield: casually check with other clerks in the league, and people seem to think that this is fine. Yeah. So, I mean, I wasn't curious if it was a scam or something, but it seems that towns have… the money has to be put toward very specific, you know, 640 01:27:32.250 --> 01:27:48.049 Town of Plainfield: anti-drug stuff. It's not free money to be applied anywhere, but I'm sure on the social concerns side, that's an organization that we could give the money to, and we might as well be the ones to do it. I think I sent you something today. 641 01:27:48.270 --> 01:27:56.519 Town of Plainfield: to… Oh, I didn't see that. I sent an email today, and they were saying, I think October 7th is the deadline or something. Okay. 642 01:27:56.700 --> 01:28:03.970 Town of Plainfield: you know, I think you've signed something… I think the board has signed something previously, there's some follow-up thing, or… 643 01:28:03.970 --> 01:28:18.909 Town of Plainfield: Okay, so if you are a town of under 10,000 people and have not brought an opioids lawsuit, you have two choices. You can do nothing, and your share of the settlement funds will go to the state opioid Abatement fund, or two, you can complete 644 01:28:19.220 --> 01:28:38.040 Town of Plainfield: exhibit, or example K, which signifies that you would like your town to receive its share of the settlement funds directly. Any towns that elect to receive funds directly must spend those funds on opioid abatement and maintain records that reflect those expenditures. 645 01:28:38.210 --> 01:28:48.449 Town of Plainfield: And I… I looped Jody Velarde into this, question. We have not heard a direct reply from Jody, our town health officer. 646 01:28:48.540 --> 01:29:01.609 Town of Plainfield: And so we would need to fill out a thing, but the deadline is in 8 days, so this is our last meeting to… that we have to formally say that we wish to pursue direct 647 01:29:01.740 --> 01:29:07.120 Town of Plainfield: Recompense from this settlement lawsuit, or whether or not we, 648 01:29:07.790 --> 01:29:11.749 Town of Plainfield: offer that our funds would go to the state abatement fund. 649 01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:19.610 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, Peter? I think the easiest thing for us to do is to let it go to the state. I was just looking at our social concerns, and the only 650 01:29:19.710 --> 01:29:28.249 Town of Plainfield: one that has anything remotely to do with the People's Health and Wellness Clinic, and our allocation to them was $750, and 651 01:29:28.500 --> 01:29:39.279 Town of Plainfield: I think, Bram, you said at one point it was, like, 1,300 bucks that one of the towns got, or something. I mean, other towns have gotten, you know, I don't know, between… I think roughly, I've heard a couple thousand, but… 652 01:29:39.280 --> 01:29:56.399 Town of Plainfield: I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Karen. I just wonder about whether, the Twinfield School has a program that we could take our share and, and direct it that way. There was a previous Select Board member who instituted, 653 01:29:56.560 --> 01:30:04.600 Town of Plainfield: he seems familiar with this, Davis, Tim Davis, he, he has, kits in the, in the town office for… 654 01:30:04.770 --> 01:30:21.739 Town of Plainfield: safety kits, you know, for drug people, Narcan kits. Yeah. So he might be somebody, if anybody knows him, to know. I mean, I can send… I can resend the email that I forwarded to you to the board. Okay. Because it came in today asking… 655 01:30:21.780 --> 01:30:28.360 Town of Plainfield: Whatever, whatever you want. Is it a… is the paperwork likely to be… 656 01:30:29.270 --> 01:30:44.610 Town of Plainfield: excessive. I mean, we don't… I think that people keep track while I would have spent, but it might be a little bit arduous. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. That's the only thing I'm thinking of, is we have a busy office, and 657 01:30:45.230 --> 01:30:48.050 Town of Plainfield: It'll go through a good cause in the state. 658 01:30:48.220 --> 01:31:01.540 Town of Plainfield: I feel like the financial systems that Josh has put in place, we track all of our money, where it comes from and where it goes, so I don't think that's, like, a big deal. The question is, do we think that there's a program? Not hearing from Jody, like. 659 01:31:01.990 --> 01:31:11.969 Town of Plainfield: I wouldn't want us to say, let's take the money, and then we don't know what to do with it when the money could just go to the state abatement fund, which is abating and drug use in the state. 660 01:31:12.770 --> 01:31:14.080 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, yeah, Josh. 661 01:31:15.290 --> 01:31:23.590 Town of Plainfield: We haven't really discussed this, but I'm having some memory that some of our social concerns committee 662 01:31:23.790 --> 01:31:32.089 Town of Plainfield: Expenditures that we vote on may satisfy the conditions of this, but that would require a little bit of investigation. 663 01:31:33.050 --> 01:31:51.699 Town of Plainfield: I mean, how much time do we have to spend the money? I guess it's true, because it could also be something that we put into a social concerns committee next, like, for… we bring to the committee and say, we have money that's for this, are there… are there any applicants who… who fit these categories that we would then, you know, vote on spending that money in March? 664 01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:54.000 Town of Plainfield: Someone would believe in the Moneyball. 665 01:31:54.160 --> 01:32:07.540 Town of Plainfield: I can't imagine that it wasn't… it isn't a while, like, it can't be, like, an instantaneous thing. Right, right. They probably won't even send us the money for a while. My understanding was this was how small towns 666 01:32:08.100 --> 01:32:20.299 Town of Plainfield: you know, dealt with some of this, this influx and requirement to apply it was that through social concerns, they would… that is how they would disperse that money, but… 667 01:32:20.530 --> 01:32:22.190 Town of Plainfield: I need to do homework on this. 668 01:32:22.930 --> 01:32:41.190 Town of Plainfield: So, in perspective. Oh, sorry, Karen. Sorry, that's okay. So, in perspective, we're going to give it to a social concern group, why would we just leave it with the state that has a big… that's what they have it for. So, I feel like we're just kind of taking money and putting it in circles, but maybe I'm wrong. 669 01:32:41.540 --> 01:32:42.310 Town of Plainfield: Yep. 670 01:32:43.230 --> 01:32:45.910 Town of Plainfield: I mean, that's what the state has the program for. 671 01:32:46.550 --> 01:32:52.190 Town of Plainfield: I want to offer the acknowledgement that, yeah, this has come to us 672 01:32:52.380 --> 01:33:07.870 Town of Plainfield: Previously, and we have circled around the question of it without getting closer to any specificity about what to do with it, and now the timeline is such that in the next 8 days, we'd be committing ourselves to something tonight and figuring out what to do. 673 01:33:08.010 --> 01:33:14.649 Town of Plainfield: More specifically in the next 8 days, and maybe that is an unreasonable deadline for this body at this time. 674 01:33:15.280 --> 01:33:25.110 Town of Plainfield: And it is a comfort to know that the state will get this money, and has more resources to throw behind it. Well, they have programs that they're… 675 01:33:25.230 --> 01:33:37.159 Town of Plainfield: They're funding, yeah, yeah. I move we give it to the state. Well, we don't have to do anything to give it to the state. We don't have to move. You don't fill out the form, it goes to the state. Yeah, agreed. 676 01:33:37.310 --> 01:33:46.470 Town of Plainfield: So, how do we feel? I mean, I… So we take no action. So we take no action. That's how I feel it. And then it'll go to the state. You okay about that, Patty? 677 01:33:49.270 --> 01:33:55.530 Town of Plainfield: That was it? Yeah. Okay. Yep, I think… you're, you're on mute. You're on mute, Patty, if you, if… 678 01:33:59.140 --> 01:34:01.409 Town of Plainfield: Well, thanks for bringing it up again, but I think… 679 01:34:02.400 --> 01:34:04.070 Town of Plainfield: The sense I get is this… 680 01:34:04.660 --> 01:34:09.629 Town of Plainfield: the board is inclined to leave it for the state. They have the program, they have the 681 01:34:09.750 --> 01:34:14.150 Town of Plainfield: staff, they have… The people can do paperwork. 682 01:34:14.400 --> 01:34:24.870 Town of Plainfield: I mean, if a lot… if a lot of small towns are doing that, then the state will end up with a chunk that they could do something subsequent. Yeah, yeah, and it… and it distributes to the… all the communities, so… 683 01:34:25.180 --> 01:34:26.240 Town of Plainfield: Okay. 684 01:34:27.360 --> 01:34:34.760 Town of Plainfield: Hay Barn Restaurant, outdoor consumption permit. 685 01:34:37.100 --> 01:34:37.790 Patti Jamele: Sweet. 686 01:34:38.390 --> 01:34:40.259 Town of Plainfield: This is requested by, 687 01:34:41.630 --> 01:34:49.060 Town of Plainfield: The hay barn, who, have a… they're having an event where they want to have Alcohol served outside. 688 01:34:49.540 --> 01:34:51.069 Town of Plainfield: We have a liquor permit. 689 01:34:51.320 --> 01:34:54.929 Town of Plainfield: This is, this is ongoing. 690 01:34:55.290 --> 01:34:59.280 Town of Plainfield: So this will be a permanent… okay, I didn't picked that up. Yeah, there was… there was… there were… 691 01:34:59.410 --> 01:35:05.409 Town of Plainfield: Well, there was… there was actually a single event thing that was a side… a sidebar, but, 692 01:35:06.330 --> 01:35:09.989 Town of Plainfield: Carol at the office, got… 693 01:35:10.100 --> 01:35:22.069 Town of Plainfield: jumped into this and straightened it out, because Goddards did not fill out the form saying where outside, what hours, you know? We have, 694 01:35:22.450 --> 01:35:33.359 Town of Plainfield: You know, Positive Pie can go till 10 o'clock, the Barry Country Club can serve outside, but, you know, they generally are done by around 4 o'clock. Yeah. 695 01:35:33.440 --> 01:35:52.119 Town of Plainfield: Yeah, and so, Carol worked with them, and they… they have us, so the lawn and patio areas surrounding the Hay Barn theater Community Center building will be monitored by staff and marked and roped off to prevent patrons from taking alcohol off-premises. Operating hours will be Sunday through Saturday, 12 noon to 10 p.m. 696 01:35:54.160 --> 01:36:00.310 Town of Plainfield: It is an isolated… I remember back in the days when we had our. 697 01:36:00.310 --> 01:36:01.630 Patti Jamele: You've been awake lately. 698 01:36:01.630 --> 01:36:05.299 Town of Plainfield: wall gang, and… And they, 699 01:36:05.530 --> 01:36:13.339 Town of Plainfield: We were very concerned about alcohol in the public, and where it is there. 700 01:36:13.610 --> 01:36:14.130 Town of Plainfield: Gotcha. 701 01:36:14.130 --> 01:36:14.840 Patti Jamele: Really? 702 01:36:15.290 --> 01:36:21.279 Town of Plainfield: Patty, are you on? No, I think it's our grandson. Oh, yeah, yeah. So anyway, I, I… 703 01:36:21.570 --> 01:36:26.679 Town of Plainfield: I feel less worried about Well, yeah, I think it's just gonna be like any other, like, if… 704 01:36:26.820 --> 01:36:41.590 Town of Plainfield: if you see Three Penny has their area inside, and then they have their little spot outside, like, they're gonna have an area. Right. They're not gonna have it all over campus, and it's gonna be in the same open hours as the restaurant itself, which is the issue that really needed to get… And I don't believe it's event… 705 01:36:41.590 --> 01:36:48.260 Town of Plainfield: specific. No. It's general, it's general. Only… 706 01:36:48.740 --> 01:36:54.769 Town of Plainfield: There were two, right? There was one that was permanent, but is there another one that's the specific wedding? 707 01:36:55.460 --> 01:36:57.239 Town of Plainfield: We do not have that. 708 01:36:57.470 --> 01:37:05.729 Town of Plainfield: That was not given to us, and my discussions with Carol was that, Goddard tried to… 709 01:37:06.250 --> 01:37:13.330 Town of Plainfield: Apparently, they didn't quite understand how to fill out the forms, which was true in their initial license as well. 710 01:37:13.380 --> 01:37:27.980 Town of Plainfield: And if you have a… they were looking for a caterer's license to cater this… this event, but they're not… they don't have a caterer's license. If you hire a catering firm. 711 01:37:28.080 --> 01:37:52.560 Town of Plainfield: right, to come cater your wedding. They have basically a portable liquor license that goes to wherever you're doing. The Goddard seemed to be asking to cater their own event, but that… They don't need that. They don't need that. So, if it's on… if it's on location. So, that's not what this is. We do not have… I overheard this thing about this wedding… Yeah, there was a second one kicking around. We do not have any application. 712 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:53.220 Town of Plainfield: for them. 713 01:37:53.220 --> 01:37:54.000 Town of Plainfield: Right. 714 01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:58.740 Town of Plainfield: Yes. Can I make a motion to approve the outside consumption permit for the Hayvon restaurant? 715 01:37:58.820 --> 01:37:59.930 Town of Plainfield: Second it. 716 01:38:00.420 --> 01:38:03.320 Town of Plainfield: Oh, those in favor say aye. Aye. 717 01:38:03.320 --> 01:38:04.010 Patti Jamele: I… 718 01:38:05.740 --> 01:38:13.329 Town of Plainfield: So, they don't need the… anything else. If they're gonna have a wedding, they can do it, right? 719 01:38:13.700 --> 01:38:16.060 Town of Plainfield: That's their hours. I wasn't involved. 720 01:38:16.060 --> 01:38:16.840 Patti Jamele: room. 721 01:38:17.090 --> 01:38:19.230 Town of Plainfield: Yes, yeah. Back and forth. 722 01:38:20.350 --> 01:38:23.549 Town of Plainfield: Well, that is in those broken-off areas. 723 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:33.660 Town of Plainfield: But if it's beyond those drug areas, they wouldn't even be found. Yeah, yeah, right. But they… it sounds like they under… they're getting the fact that they don't want alcohol leaving the permit. 724 01:38:35.490 --> 01:38:38.330 Town of Plainfield: Approval of draft minutes. 725 01:38:39.090 --> 01:38:47.709 Town of Plainfield: I'd like to make a motion to approve draft minutes dated September 8th, 2025, and September 15th, 2025. Second. 726 01:38:48.580 --> 01:38:50.149 Town of Plainfield: All those in favor, say aye. 727 01:38:50.150 --> 01:38:52.180 Patti Jamele: Aye. Aye. Aye. 728 01:38:54.550 --> 01:38:58.310 Town of Plainfield: And the rule of warrants transferable. 729 01:38:59.160 --> 01:39:01.299 Patti Jamele: This one caught tasty. 730 01:39:01.300 --> 01:39:12.300 Town of Plainfield: Make a motion to approve warrants, accounts payable, September 10th, 2025, and payroll, September 11th, 2025, and September 18th, 2025. 731 01:39:14.530 --> 01:39:15.050 Town of Plainfield: Second. 732 01:39:15.050 --> 01:39:16.140 Patti Jamele: It… oh. 733 01:39:16.550 --> 01:39:19.050 Town of Plainfield: All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 734 01:39:19.050 --> 01:39:19.730 Patti Jamele: Bye. 735 01:39:25.850 --> 01:39:27.719 Town of Plainfield: We're gonna have the, 736 01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:48.789 Town of Plainfield: Do we need a vote on the rescheduling of the Indigenous… I don't know if it requires a vote. I don't think it requires a vote. I see a V, but I think we've decided on Tuesday following? Yeah, that was the proposal. Oh, okay. For Josh saying that, too, and I'm like, when did we discuss this? Because I must have missed it. 737 01:39:50.480 --> 01:39:53.120 Patti Jamele: Then I got the iPhone. Yeah. 738 01:39:53.120 --> 01:39:57.649 Town of Plainfield: We do want to, compare it to other meetings that might be going on. 739 01:39:58.970 --> 01:40:00.080 Town of Plainfield: Dear? 740 01:40:00.370 --> 01:40:00.860 Patti Jamele: Oh, good. 741 01:40:00.860 --> 01:40:11.689 Town of Plainfield: Yes, there are, there are some other groups that use this space. I can, I can… You have access to that. So this would be the 14th, right? Yes. 742 01:40:17.500 --> 01:40:19.700 Patti Jamele: Oh, you need to go to meetings. 743 01:40:19.700 --> 01:40:21.420 Town of Plainfield: There's nothing on the calendar, so… 744 01:40:21.420 --> 01:40:24.650 Patti Jamele: I didn't, because I was just… I was just rash. 745 01:40:24.910 --> 01:40:28.420 Town of Plainfield: Maybe, maybe reserve… First go on, Patty. 746 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:29.920 Patti Jamele: Disappointing. 747 01:40:31.480 --> 01:40:34.689 Town of Plainfield: Can we reserve it, Dan, on the 14th, Tuesday? 748 01:40:36.390 --> 01:40:42.989 Town of Plainfield: Well, yeah, I can send Keith an email, if that's what we decide. Patty, can you do Tuesday the 14th? 749 01:40:43.150 --> 01:40:44.000 Patti Jamele: Again. 750 01:40:44.400 --> 01:40:45.170 Town of Plainfield: Great. 751 01:40:45.390 --> 01:40:48.759 Town of Plainfield: Great. Okay. Okay, so that's an announcement, not a vote. 752 01:40:50.510 --> 01:40:54.329 Town of Plainfield: That's an announcement and not a vote. 753 01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:58.399 Town of Plainfield: And is that at 6 o'clock, or are we starting at 5 30? 754 01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:05.130 Town of Plainfield: This is the… this is the one… yeah, we're starting at 5.30, so it's a, I don't know, a special time meeting. 755 01:41:05.470 --> 01:41:09.050 Town of Plainfield: But it's a regular meeting, it's just a different day. 756 01:41:09.980 --> 01:41:11.030 Town of Plainfield: I don't think we need a. 757 01:41:11.030 --> 01:41:12.470 Patti Jamele: You like that up there. 758 01:41:12.470 --> 01:41:19.209 Town of Plainfield: So it's our regular meeting, plus the bridges. Plus the presentation of the bridge, folks. 759 01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:25.280 Patti Jamele: Hmm, okay. 760 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:39.649 Town of Plainfield: Move we adjourn. Oh, sorry. The next Select Board meeting? 761 01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:53.370 Town of Plainfield: Oh, it's the grant hearing this coming Thursday. Yes, oh, right. September 25th is the CBBGDR grant hearing here, Opera House, Thursday evening at 6 o'clock. 6, okay. 762 01:41:58.230 --> 01:42:04.649 Town of Plainfield: I now make a motion to adjourn this meeting at 7.42 PM. Oh, second. 763 01:42:05.050 --> 01:42:07.849 Town of Plainfield: All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 764 01:42:08.230 --> 01:42:10.090 Town of Plainfield: You can't pick on me now, can you? 765 01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:14.650 Town of Plainfield: Thank you all. Thank you, Maddie. 766 01:42:14.650 --> 01:42:15.370 Patti Jamele: Thank you. 767 01:42:15.370 --> 01:42:21.120 Town of Plainfield: of all the documents that everybody needs to sign in there? I don't.