WEBVTT 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:20.000 I'd like to call the meeting to order, uh, 6 o'clock, the Select Board meeting of… December 8. 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:36.000 And, uh… I wonder if somebody has a, uh, agenda that I could look at while I'm… Oh, where's the… folder. It's right there. I have one. 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:44.000 Thanks, thank you. Okay, as long as we don't change too much. 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:53.000 meetings called order, and uh… Any announcements to make? Oh, changes to agenda? 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:58.000 Do we have a change to agenda? Aren't we appointing someone? Well, I have those already on them, right? 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:15.000 was already on the agenda? There's 3 appointments on the agenda. Oh, okay. Uh, there's… there's one thing, uh, Lance, uh, Toby on the… Yes. I can handle that during the town report if you prefer. 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:30.000 Well, let's, yeah, let's do it. This is a, uh, change that… Oh, announcements? Uh, announcements, yeah. Um, first Sunday, Farmer's Market. Is this coming Sunday in this very space, from 11 to 3? 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:39.000 Food, crafts, lunch, music, community bias, this Sunday, 11 to 3. 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:46.000 Great. Any other announcements? Just, uh, just wondering if about. 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:55.000 Chance to the agenda when we're gonna move the budget stuff to… Is that something you still want to do? Yeah, I can't do that. Alright, so… Oh, God. 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:01.000 We are going to remove… You're gonna do your report still? 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:06.000 Or do you want nothing? I just want to make sure we get the MCRF. 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:17.000 So let's take the Treasurer's report and the budget, and… Yeah. Do we want to move the MCRF to the top? 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:24.000 No, no, I wanna… Okay, so speaking of that… 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:29.000 Announcements? Um, yeah, any more announcements? 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:33.000 Let go. 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:42.000 Um, Emergency Management Director Michael Hillingsley. Next Thursday, a week from this Thursday. 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:51.000 will be the 5-day kickoff for the, um. introduction of our long-awaited Crape Brooks scoping study. 00:02:51.000 --> 00:03:06.000 This is an enormous important study that has been talked about for almost a year, and it will be our opportunity to meet with the engineers, the planners, and the state representatives who are pushing to have us understand the Great Brook and how it behaves. 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:13.000 And we really want public input, so this is a public meeting here in the town hall next Thursday night at 7pm. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:20.000 A week from this Thursday, yes, sir. The 18th, yes. 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:27.000 Thank you. Thank you. 45. 7. 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:41.000 Anything else? Uh, public comment, I guess that's public comment. Well, no, that's the announcement. I have a public comment to read on behalf of someone who can't be here today. 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:51.000 I'm letting you know that I have a public comment. Um, here we go. Um, Andrea, Stefani, on a great road, wanted me to. 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:59.000 After this public comment, um… Message is short, the whole width of dirt roads. 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:07.000 Need to be sanded well, not just a trapped for one car in the middle, especially unbounded dirt roads. 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:19.000 With narrow curves and hills. It's not safe with only one middle strip of sanding, and please don't let us sit snowy in all day long during a storm. 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.000 Thank you, Andrea, 303 Green Road. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:30.000 Thank you. And just a reminder. It's fine, it's fine. 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:44.000 Just a reminder to Andrea and others that there is a report form for our road, uh, road crew, so something like, I'm snowed in and I can't get out, something's inaccessible, filling out the form will be the fastest way to get help on the day of. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:52.000 Also, if you have salting issues or other things. So please use the form, it gets it all in one place so that our town staff can manage it in one place. 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:57.000 And to follow up on that, if you're expecting a delivery of gas or oil or something. 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:02.000 if you could give the town road crew an alert through that site. 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:08.000 Uh, they can, they can work to get that done for you. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:16.000 Okay, uh… So, did we want to go right to, uh, Treasure's report? 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:27.000 We took the treasurer's report out. Oh, okay, okay. Rand? 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:37.000 Brent Tillon, Town Clerk. Just want to get a read from 50,000 feet of upcoming town meeting. 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:47.000 March 3rd, in terms of elected positions. There will be, uh, two positions open on the select board, one for two years, one for 3 years. 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:57.000 three cemetery commissioners… Um, again, I think there are terms of 3 years, 2 auditors for 1 year, 1 moderator. 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:06.000 Uh, delinquent tax collector, one school board seat is open for one year, uh, two… There are also two. 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:12.000 Uh, potential bond votes. One, you've heard about, it's water wastewater. There's actually. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:31.000 documents in the folder regarding that one, and then there was a, um… Um, and that's, I think, for a million dollars, and then there'll be a bond offering of about $200,000 for a road project, um, and that will also be an article, um… 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:47.000 I just, in passing, obviously there'll be… an article about town business, the Australian ballot, which is something that I understand was discussed. Um, if someone can give me the language for that, is that not the case? 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:59.000 was reported. I don't… I think there was a short discussion as part of the… There was a short discussion as part of the accessibility committee's report. 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:25.000 There's a short discussion related to the accessibility communities report. I don't think that the board has taken any action to add an article, but… I think there are some folks in town that are interested in having an article, and there's obviously two ways to do that, which is, one, the select board adds it as an article, and the second is that there's a citizen petition for it to be on the ballot, correct? Correct. And, uh, I think that, um… 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:32.000 you know, I just read this post with somebody complaining about it, um, on, uh, Hunter's forum saying that. 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:42.000 They had read in the Times Argus that the board had pushed that and stuff, so, okay, so that's inaccurate, but if there are any other articles. 00:07:42.000 --> 00:08:01.000 Um, please, uh, try to let me know, um, ASAP. I'd just like to try to… organized the ballot and everything as soon as possible. Uh, one other thing, uh, some good news, uh, Lance, Toby, um, has passed the CDL, um. 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:06.000 Test, and, uh, now is fully legitimate member of the road crew. 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:12.000 Back in August, when, um, I presented you, you know, his. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:26.000 is hiring. Um, I was so focused on, uh, paying the tuition, and when the payback would be, I forgot to officially, uh, incorporate, uh, have the slate forward. 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:32.000 part of the whole deal with Lance was that his pay would go from $25 an hour. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:42.000 Which is what it is. prior to him passing the test, but we had indicated that once he passes the test, he would get the $28 an hour, which is what the. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:47.000 position was advertised. thinking the person might have a CEO. 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:55.000 I spoke with Josh about it, um, plans haven't made it, it's not going to adversely affect the budget, but we'd like to have a motion to. 00:08:55.000 --> 00:09:01.000 officially. give less, uh, 28 an hour. 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:26.000 Yes, go ahead. And if I recall correctly, there are some conditions upon this race that he has to stay employed with the town for… Well, there is, as I recall from… Well, they… okay, just separating out the pieces. You will get… once he passes the test, he gets $28 an hour. However. 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:30.000 If he leaves the towns employed within 2 years. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:44.000 People owe the town, uh, money for the tuition. For the tuition, correct. So, yeah, so that's… I would move that we approve the raise to $28 an ounce. I second it. 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:52.000 Moved and seconded. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:09:52.000 --> 00:10:03.000 Um, it just two other things, briefly. Um, we have… the town has, uh, retained the services of a towing company. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.000 Um, because we've had issues with people not moving their cars. 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:17.000 We do not want to tow anyone's car. Um, and, uh, we didn't really emphasize that. In years past. 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:22.000 towing one car solved the problem of people not moving their cars. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:29.000 We don't like to resort to this, but there were requests by both the constable and the road for him to have. 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:36.000 a resource to go to. Um, the expense, you know, is considerable in terms of, uh. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:47.000 towing one car, um, I think it's about $300 or $350, I can't remember the exact figure. And then their storage is $85 a day. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:11:06.000 Now, obviously, if this is an abandoned car, that's a different, um, thing, and we can have a discussion about whether it should be total, but these are more people who just are, for whatever reason, don't get out of the way when they've been warned. We have placed warnings on cars. 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:14.000 And, uh, once again, we're not interested in doing this, but we need to tube in our toolbox. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:18.000 I think that's it. Thank you. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:23.000 Is our town constable on? Yes. There you are, Dan. 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.000 Yes, I am. 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:27.000 Are you able to hear me? 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.000 We can hear you. Go ahead. 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:42.000 All right, um, so I see it's already on the agenda, as we discussed, send you some updated information on the No Trespass policy after talking to Vermont League of Cities and Towns. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:52.000 Uh, ongoing situation at 1735 Brook Road. I'm working with Michael Billinsley to set a time to meet with Mr. Luciere. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:12:00.000 And I get that side of the story and see without the town and other entities getting into a protracted legal battle in civil court. 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:07.000 finding a solution that works for everyone involved. There's a number of different layers there, from 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.000 zoning to tenancy to… 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:15.000 Just so many different things, I'm gonna try to find the easiest solution first. 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:22.000 Uh, we did have some vandalism reported, which was referred to Vermont State Police. 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:25.000 As Bram covered the… 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:32.000 winter parking ban, most of the folks, after we left the notices, uh, after the road crew left the notices, 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.000 has complied with that. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:38.000 Uh, there's one car that has not, and I've reached out to the owner via 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:43.000 email, and have not heard anything back, so now that we have a tow provider, 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:47.000 We'll probably be moving forward with that. 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:52.000 Uh, there is the issue of… there's several cars in the… 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:57.000 Park and ride that have not moved in quite some time and could be considered abandoned. 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:05.000 So I'll work with Bram on that to see what, uh, what the tow solution is, because… 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:13.000 been unable to move. Joshua had a great idea of creating a roster of people who use street, uh, the parking lots by necessity. 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:19.000 So that we know who to contact if a car is not moved, rather than resorting to a tow. 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:23.000 So hopefully that moves forward. 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.000 Uh, there have been some issues with people 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:31.000 Namely, an individual getting upset with the road crew's performance. 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:34.000 Um, despite their lack of 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:40.000 Winter tires, and a four-wheel drive vehicle to access certain spots. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:47.000 That then escalated into calling the town office, using choice language, and making threats, and the town clerk 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:53.000 This leads to all the, if they called again, it would be referred to state police. 00:13:53.000 --> 00:14:04.000 Uh, one thing I did want to put on the public radar, residents, I went for a walk on the Cross Vermont Trail on Country Club Road, returned to find a municipal ticket. 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:08.000 like what comes from Fish and Game or another law enforcement agency. 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:14.000 Without any officer information filled out saying they were in violation of parking on a traveled roadway in road… 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.000 First warning, uh… 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.000 I've talked to game wardens, I've talked to other agencies. 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:21.000 They have a different… 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:27.000 documentation system for warnings, so that did not come from 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:35.000 any law enforcement officer, so if anybody sees one of those, uh, please let me know, shoot me an email, take a picture of it. 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:42.000 So we're trying to trace down that ticket book, uh, through the Vermont Judiciary Bureau. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:46.000 That is what I have to report. 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:53.000 In addition to the report that was emailed, outside of getting further into the Vermont No Trespass… or the No Trespass policy, 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:59.000 And then your questions. 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:08.000 Yeah, I just, uh, want to follow up. Um, the individual, uh, who acted, uh, extremely inappropriately. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:12.000 Um, you know, and made threats and so forth. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:23.000 Unfortunately, that situation has turned into an animal cruelty case, and um… Just wanted to say, that is being pursued at the state level. 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:28.000 So. Thank you. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:38.000 I wanted to thank Dan for his. very thorough work on the No Trespass policy and the supporting documents. 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:47.000 Appreciate the follow-up with the League of Cities and Towns after the last discussion we had. Also, I want to thank Bram for checking with the Town Insurance. 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:56.000 to make sure we are covered with liability insurance, uh, in case, uh, we might be sued on this. And with that in mind, I… Yes. Uh, that's the next item. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:05.000 What's that? The trespass policy. Oh, I thought that was part of his… It's the right actor. Okay. 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:15.000 So, I was gonna ask that. Before we get into the trespass stuff, if that's alright. That's fine. Um, so with these issues with, uh, citizens. 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:23.000 threatening, being aggressive, physical, whatever. I wonder if we need to just have a town policy that takes. 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:29.000 the decision from staff, from town staff away, like, if something happens, you report it to state police? 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:44.000 But there's no… there's no judgment call, like, you just do it, because I feel like what has happened multiple times now… Obviously, our town staff, very competent, very caring, empathetic, want to try to work with these people, they get threatened. 00:16:44.000 --> 00:17:01.000 like, really vile things happen, and they just kind of swallow it and say, I don't want to get that person in trouble, and I feel like we maybe want to look at, not that we vote on it tonight, a policy where we tell staff if they're threatened in any way, that they are required to report to the state police. 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:17.000 you know, we should have a document that we also have, and just take the decision out of the staff's hands, so that way we are continuing to document. I know we have resident issues where folks aren't documenting to state police and it becomes a problem, but I think if someone is threatening a town employee. 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:29.000 the state police should know about it, a record should be there, because that person, the next time, might threaten a non-town employee, and if there's no record, then there might not be any consequences. 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:44.000 Here, here. One thing Dan's taught us is, uh… that it's important to report things to the state police so they can develop the record if it's a violation, but I think that's a sound idea. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:52.000 I mean, I guess… I agree that that sounds like a sound idea. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:59.000 Okay, um, so let's move to the, uh, trespass policy. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:25.000 I heard they did some good work. They did some good work. It's a good work. Um, a very thorough work, and um… So I would move that we adopt, uh, the Town of Plainfield policy for issuing and forcing notices against trespass on town property, and this… this was not printed and put in the packet, but I happened to print a copy, and we do all need to sign here at the end, and it would be effective immediately. 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:33.000 And we had also discussed it being limited to the term of this constable as a… trial. 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:41.000 Um, we did discuss that. That is not in the motion, and it's not in the policy. 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:46.000 We could change the quality if. Constable changes. Okay. 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:56.000 I would say. But it's your emotion. Yeah, we can always change that in the future. Okay. Um, I don't… know as we need to. 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:03.000 do that now. That's your option if you choose to make an amendment. I will second. It's okay, we have a motion and second. 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:26.000 Uh, all those in favor, say aye. Is there more discussion before we… Oh, you want to have some discussion? Any more questions? I don't have discussion, but… Oh, okay. Is that Francis Rose might have discussion? This is just me transparently remembering that conversation where we had articulated that in a… 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:34.000 Yet another strategy around harm reduction and hedging bets about trying a new thing, that we would trial it. 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:43.000 for a single term. But I'm hearing that we can always make another motion in the future to suspend this policy. Absolutely. 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:47.000 And so I feel okay about it. Thank you. Okay. 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:57.000 Or modify it. Uh, okay, so we have a motion and a second, and all those in favor of this approving this, say aye. Aye. 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:03.000 I'm gonna pass this along. The third page is the one that needs to be signed. 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:09.000 Okay, yeah, we can do it right now. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan. Thank you very much. 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:19.000 You too. The grant administrator's update, we got that. 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:37.000 Karen Hatcher, Grant Administrator, you can go off. Okay, um… So, on the good news side of things, we're entering a period of time where we're actually seeing revenue from grants. 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:47.000 Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! Um, so I have detailed for you in your report, um, anticipated revenue, so that as you're thinking about. 00:20:47.000 --> 00:21:16.000 of money, which is budget season, obviously. You can have these numbers in front of you. Um, so, uh, first is FEMA Public Assistance. Um, we anticipate, uh, reimbursement of $1.25 million, um, plus at the end of the process of closeout, there'll probably be another $200,000 in CATC, but, uh, already… 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:21.000 Uh, we have $84,000 obligated, and, uh, we expect. 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:30.000 the balance, um, of the $1.25 million will come sometime in quarter one, quarter two of next year. 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:34.000 Uh, maybe quarter 3 on some, but all of this is, uh, money that has. 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:40.000 Nearly all of it is money that has been 100% spent and worked on. 00:21:40.000 --> 00:22:02.000 So, um, this is reimbursement. you know, Q1, Q2 calendars? Calendar, thank you for that, yeah, calendar 2026. Um… So, that's all really good news, and those are solid numbers. That's… those are, uh, estimates from FEMA. Great. After negotiation. So, really good about that. That's good. Um… 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:06.000 On the Federal Highway side, uh, we will have information this week, we expect. 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:24.000 Uh, on the first three projects, uh, which will be Mill Street Bridge 21, and the Brook Road section up to Cameron Road. And, um… The high end of that, those three projects, we estimate at $8 million. We don't necessarily think they're gonna come in that high. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:31.000 Um, but that's a 90% grant from Federal Highway, so the 10% at the high end. 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:45.000 would be, um, a match of 10%, $800,000. Um, on the good news side of things, we expect a reimbursement for emergency repairs that have already been done from Federal Highway of $850,000. 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:55.000 So, um… there's money coming in, there's money coming out. It's kind of the way it is, but, you know, um, these are big numbers, but these are big projects. 00:22:55.000 --> 00:23:06.000 But there's funding, you know, and so that's… That's the good news. What we don't know, and this is the big question and the reason why a study of the Great Brook is such an important thing. 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:17.000 is that the middle projects on Brook Road are, um… are really a much longer process and a much more involved process. 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:23.000 for coming to what the… repairs might look like there, where the Grand Canyons are. 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:29.000 Right? So, um… That will take longer, and we don't have those numbers, but we will have. 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:34.000 Eventually, but we have a process that we're in on those. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:47.000 Excuse me. On the Emergency watershed Protection Grant. Um, as you heard, we, uh, in first round for CDBGDR, we were not recommended. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:54.000 have more information about that in a minute, but, uh, included in that was the match for the emergency watershed protection grant. 00:23:54.000 --> 00:24:00.000 Um, there will not be another bite at that apple, um, in the second round of CDBG. 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.000 Uh, because all of the infrastructure money was allocated. 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:12.000 So, that leaves us with, uh… a match of $300,000 that, uh, otherwise would need to be covered. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:22.000 Um, where are we with PWP right now? We have been allocated $151,000 and change to do the engineering. 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:37.000 That is 100% covered. So we're going to move forward. We have, uh, the Central Valley, uh, sorry, Central Vermont Regional Planning Commission working with us to do the RFP for engineering work for all of the sites in that grant. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:43.000 Um, that will give us the information we need, at least on what the projects look like. 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:56.000 Uh, without losing anything, and without having to come up with a match. So that's 100%. And, uh, we're gonna begin that work. I'm working with Brian Voigt. Um, we have a call on Wednesday, so we'll get an RFP together for that piece. 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:02.000 Um, the next part of that will be a conversation, obviously, with the property owners. The trickiest part of it is that. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:09.000 Um, the property that is behind, uh, that goes from France Meeting House. 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:25.000 to the Pinefield Health Center is not owned by the Plainfield Health Center. You know, there's property owned by the Havocs that goes beyond… behind it, so we have to really look at getting all the property owners together and having a conversation about what the risk is and who should. 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:32.000 be thinking about… uh, mitigating that risk, or paying for that risk, and that will involve having the town. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:38.000 the table as well. So, um, it's gonna be a process, I think, for all. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:42.000 of the leadership to look at together to evaluate. 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:47.000 you know, how to… how that money gets… how it fits Q4. 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:56.000 If we go forward, but there is no obligation, we have the grant, but there's no obligation and there's no loss. We could spend all the money on engineering and have that work done. 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:04.000 And never, uh, go forward with any of the repairs, as long as we don't move a big machine onto the property and do any work. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:17.000 We don't lose anything. So, we have a lot of time, is what I'm… we have an extension till the end of 2026 to actually get the work done, so we have some time to try to negotiate and figure out what. 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:26.000 can happen. Quick question for clarification. Well, you need to be on a microphone. 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:44.000 Uh, quick question for clarification, Karen. Is, if I understand correctly, the 3 or 4 projects that are in the WPP, or Watershed protection program, um, two of the property owners have agreed to pay the match. You know, there's the 25%, so the town is not on the hook. 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:55.000 to balance, to match everything. Correct. Yeah, so… Two of the properties are in the buyout. 00:26:55.000 --> 00:27:20.000 program, so that would… if they went forward with a buyout, would render them ineligible for this. These are properties not along… No, not along that stretch, right. So… The one… one on, um, excuse me, Brook Road, and one… 99 Brook Road. 99 Brook and 1495 Coburn, right? So those two are in the buyout program, and if those go through, they're not eligible for this. 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:27.000 So that could prob… that could take care of those two. The one at, um, 125 Berryhill is for sale. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:42.000 And part of the… I don't believe it's under contract, but it is for sale, and I know people are looking at it, and it is part of the sale agreement, or will be, that the… the price of the, uh, sale will include the match. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.000 as I understand it, because a prospective buyer called me. 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:57.000 And we had this conversation. Um, and then the last one, which is the complicated one, is the one that is the stretch from the Friends Meeting House to the… The playing field health center. 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.000 So, um… so at this point, we're gonna go ahead with the engineering costs. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:20.000 Dan, do go first? So, the $300,000 that you referenced, is that for just the 203 Martin Meadow and properties adjacent, or is that for all… It's for all four. All the properties. Yeah, it was… yes, it is for all four. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:36.000 No. Go ahead. And I have those numbers for you if we need them. Oh, there, I… We're in the second page of the… How many other Graham Tobin, our town clerk. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:42.000 Um, I just, um, little history that people on the board might not be aware of. 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.000 Generally speaking, um, the town does not, for very good reason. 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:53.000 Um, pay for things that are on private property. 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:59.000 There was a notable exception to that. With, uh, the drainage pond. 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:05.000 from the health center. Um, the previous board, Phil? 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:14.000 Um, that, um, making an investment. in building, uh, retaining, uh, pool, and working with friends of the Minski. 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:27.000 And spending, uh, taxpayer dollars on that was something that was in the town's interest. I'm not weighing in either way, I just want you to know that in that particular area, there's a history of the town. 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:33.000 Okay. Marianne? 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:42.000 Just one area, one quick comment as the buyout coordinator, that it may be good in the RFP for engineering to structure that such that, um, you know. 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:58.000 Lord knows when we're gonna hear back from team on buyouts, but if they come tomorrow, you may be able to then exclude that cost. And I know it's grant money, but you might just want to be able to turn that off. Yeah, yeah. Um, good point, but with this grant, what they've told us is that. 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:04.000 The total amount is the total amount, and so it's not sectioned. So if we don't use the money. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:11.000 for, say, 3 homes, or 2 homes. that, um, let's say the two in the buyout. 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:17.000 Uh, happen tomorrow, right? Um, we don't lose any of that. That money can be applied to another project. 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:24.000 So, if… Yeah, so this is a good thing. So there's incentive to maybe reduce some of the engineer hit costs. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:32.000 The engineering itself is 100% covered, so that is what it is. It's really the actual repair work. 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:51.000 that, uh, would… could be reallocated from one project to another. Okay. Yeah, yeah, thank you. But the match would be as the project goes, so, like, let's say, theoretically, the… $136,000 match for that section between 203 Martin Meadow and the health center. Yeah. 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:57.000 If we were doing that work, as we did that work, we would be required to match, but we wouldn't have to give the full match at the beginning. 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:08.000 Right, it's not at the beginning. Like, so if we only did… you know, uh, half the work. We'd only own half the match, theoretically. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:28.000 Um, yes, yeah, okay, yeah, just checking. And, um… And I'll make sure of that. Because all of these are so complicated, you know, so it's just, let me make sure before I say yes to that. We will obviously be discussing this for… Yes, yeah, there's… yes, sure, for sure. 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:33.000 Okay. Um… Let me see where I was here just a second. 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:43.000 Yeah, okay. Alright, um, so I do want to also talk about, uh… the CDBGDR grant. 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:49.000 So, as you know, uh, first round, we did not get recommended. However, I had a call today. 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:55.000 Uh, with Patrick Schellt at the, uh, Agency of Commerce and Community Development. 00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:01.000 And he was very encouraging about, uh… the town applying in the second round. 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:05.000 Um, there's another $14 million that is available for housing. 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.000 And, um, we will have a call with them. 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.000 uh, art grants group will have a call with them next week. 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:17.000 To get more feedback and details, uh, as far as. 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.000 what they would like to see changed. Um, or how they'd like to see the second round grant. 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:31.000 uh, amended. So… Sorry, excuse me, Karen, didn't you just say there wouldn't be a second… No, only for the matching. 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:43.000 So… For the infrastructure. For the infrastructure. So there's… there were two parts of the grant application. One was for the East Village, and that was the most of it, but then there was the matching dollars for the EWP. 00:32:43.000 --> 00:33:03.000 Thank you. Which was the 3304, right? So the housing money… still does exist. 14 million is there. Um, we do expect they will… the initial, uh… uh, feedback we got, which it wasn't a full feedback, it was just like, can you tell me, can you give me a couple of ideas about what it was? 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:07.000 And, um, one of the things was the scale and scope. 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:14.000 of the project, um, uh, they were concerned that it wasn't going to be doable in a 6-year time frame. 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:25.000 So that was one thing, and the other had to do… With, um, although we had had a meeting, it obviously didn't get to the folks who were reviewing that, uh, because the bond vote was voted down. 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.000 Uh, they thought we didn't have site control. Well, then we had an auction. 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:37.000 Uh, to go forward. So, um, we will be digging in and figuring out what, uh, the second round application looks like. 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:45.000 So, uh, stay tuned after I hear. more about that, I'll come back and I'll let you know. 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:57.000 Oh, we're gonna keep working because, um. Uh, you know, it's still a possibility, and, um, they seem to be very encouraging about our being in that next round. 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:10.000 Okay, um, a big, a big discussion here, but, um… Are you, say, a second round that would have the town of Plainfield as the applicant? 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:17.000 Um, that's a great question. Uh, it may well be that the development corp that has been formed could be the applicant. 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:27.000 If, um, that's… if that's allowable. Um, it might be for the DR, because, um… For example, ExecuSuite. 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:34.000 Um, they were able to apply. Um, directly, and not go through the town. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:46.000 So, um, if it were the town applying, then the Development Corp would be the subrecipient, but it would be much easier for everyone concerned if it was directly to the development court. 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.000 And then the town is out of the mix, and you don't have. 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:57.000 Don't worry about that. So, uh, we're gonna find out. That's one of the questions for the meeting next week. 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:16.000 Yeah, again, not to get into a big thing, but I think that's an important distinction, and I think there's, uh, detailed discussion to be had about… Absolutely. …how to do that either jointly or separately. Absolutely, and hopefully we'll have more information by the next meeting for that. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:27.000 Oh. Vicki? And your name on, please? 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:37.000 Vicki McDowell, uh, is the, uh, meeting where you're going to hear that information open to the public? 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.000 Or not? No. Okay, thank you. 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:50.000 Anything else? Yes. Uh, one last thing. I know this is budget season, and I know that you're discussing many things. 00:35:50.000 --> 00:36:02.000 in the budget. Um, one of the, um… One of the things that I am concerned about in terms of the grants and the kind of work that we've been doing is that. 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.000 Um, one of the pieces that gets kind of looked at, uh. 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:13.000 when groups are evaluating is what our capacity is to manage those grants. 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.000 And what our structure is within the town office. 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:32.000 Um, it's a possibility for how we might. look better would be to refashion, uh, would be for the board and the staff to consider a position of town administrator versus. 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:55.000 Um, just what we've got now, which is… wonderful people, but no central point where there's accountability. Um, and so, I wanted to just, from the grants perspective, make the recommendation, and perhaps even offer that if you'd like, a proposal around that, I could work with Josh on it, but I just feel like it's really important for us. 00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:02.000 Given what the next few years look like in terms of grant administration and the actual work. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.000 to have a central point in the office, a person who's. 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:12.000 job, that is, uh, that it's not a volunteer, and that it's a, you know, that we could look at how to refashion what's. 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.000 what we currently have based on the talent and what the jobs are. 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:22.000 So, just… that's just my two cents. And I'm happy to work on it if you would like me to. 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:35.000 Thank you. It's been discussed before, or at least, uh… brought up before, so I think we're gonna have to have some serious discussions about it. Going forward. 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:46.000 I mean, I will say… the only other time in one of these meetings we brought it up, it didn't… the conversation didn't go very far, because there were no proposals, so… I don't know. Would you like a proposal? 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:57.000 I mean, I don't speak to the board, but it would be helpful if there was something to discuss from… Yes. And I think potentially, like, looking at other towns and how they structure would be helpful. 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:09.000 Yeah, I mean, I think Josh gave us, um… a month or so ago, some comparisons with the town of Alice, I think it was, for example, about… has a town administrator type role, um. 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:21.000 And, you know, as Dan said, the discussion didn't go very far, because there really wasn't anything specific to say, you know, here's where we are and whatnot, but, um, I do hear that that is a concern. 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:30.000 you know, statewide, particularly with small towns, towns smaller than us who have even less capacity, is that in order for these types of. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:37.000 funding streams that come in that there really needs to be some attention paid to capacity building. 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.000 in order to effectively receive or effectively even compete. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:49.000 Um, for those funds, so that's a good point, thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:55.000 Is this on point there? Yeah, go ahead. 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.000 I would just point out that our small neighbor, East Montpelier, also has a town administrator who is. 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:10.000 simultaneously emergency Management. Yeah, and uh, yeah, I think there's some good discussion to have about this, but it's the answer to the reason if we're getting funds. 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:17.000 That whoever's giving us the funds. should have a comfort in that we can handle them. 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:24.000 So, thank you. Uh, thank you, Karen. 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:32.000 Josh, you want to talk about the… The VCRF? Mcrf. Mcrf. Here it is. Mcr Bond Attorney Eli Emerson. 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:41.000 On screen. Yep. There's a whole pack. Yep. 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:46.000 So, Eli, uh… Emerson has made himself available for questions. 00:39:46.000 --> 00:40:01.000 This is just the, um. the… renewal of the borrowing that we did to… To bridge the financial gap from the. 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.000 from the million dollars we got from the municipal Climate. 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:11.000 recovery fund, and… this… this fund that we're borrowing from. 00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:19.000 Actually, to a long, lengthy workshop about it, and it is something that they want to continue to grow. 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:30.000 What the bond bank does as a source of… a source of lending for municipalities, and, um, but… Tonight, what is important is that. 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:39.000 We make a motion to sign this and re-up everything. The, um… the main. 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:47.000 you know, the main difference here is that this will have a 1.3% interest instead of a half percent. 00:40:47.000 --> 00:41:00.000 Annual, but, um… But since we're going to be receiving the, um… from FEMA in the next, uh, 3 quarters, likely. 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:14.000 maybe 4. Um… what we'll see is, like, immediately paying back that principal. So in reality, the debt service isn't going to be, um, terribly different than what we did this year, which was $5,000. 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:20.000 And so, um… the first year doesn't require any principal payback. 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:31.000 And then, um, the next, uh… Uh, over the next 5… no, over the next 4 years, it's a quarter of the principal is due each of those years. 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.000 But we'll be paid back on this before that. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:39.000 time. Okay. 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:54.000 Any questions? I was looking for you. No, um, I did… spend some time at your office this afternoon. There's a series of documents in there. 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.000 that we should take the time carefully to go through and sign tonight. 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:13.000 Some of them require just Carl. Um, I think Ram and, um, Josh have already signed to put the seal on. Some of them require a majority of all of us to sign, so we should just make sure that we. 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:22.000 I'm happy to take the yellow folder back to the office to give us time to do that after the meeting. 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:29.000 I would suggest that we do it now, so as not to… Um, miss something and require. 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:41.000 Because they're so diff… each one's so different. Yeah, I remember looking at this one. So that one is by majority of the select board. 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.000 But… it could… 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.000 So what you need is… I'll go ahead. 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:50.000 Could I add just one of the documents is a… is a Select Board resolution. 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.000 Which basically authorizes all the other documents, so… 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.000 should be some motion of the Select Board to 00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:15.000 adopt that resolution, and then, yes, it requires a signature from at least the majority of the select board members. 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:29.000 Yeah. Um… Can I make a motion to approve that the Select Board adopt the resolution and certificate for the renewal of the NCRF loan? 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:34.000 Second. Second, okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:43.000 And just assuming that that motion, um, would, uh, uh, assumes the authority to sign all the other documents. 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.000 Yeah, I believe that's what the resolution is for. 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:48.000 Yes, that's covered in the resolution. 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.000 It authorizes the Select Board and the officers. 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.000 to execute all the documents. 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.000 Great, thank you. 00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:18.000 Thank you, you are. Okay. Okay, so, uh, while we're doing that, should we be doing something else? Oh, you gotta vote. Oh. If you want… I mean, if you want to. Yeah, I think we probably should. We do have a motion and a second, and there's no discussion that I saw, so, uh, all those in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:23.000 Opposed? That's carried. So we can sign this. Yeah. 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:32.000 Let's do a signing bonantha. Maybe we've… Start over here. 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:42.000 If you want to put them all over here, oh, it's the ones that we all have to sign. Yeah, you can start that way if you want. Well, just so it's easier to go down. Yeah, yeah. Assembly line. Yep. 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:51.000 Just make sure, this is just for Carl, too. 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.000 Eddie? 00:44:53.000 --> 00:45:09.000 Thank you. 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:17.000 So, top one for you. 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:30.000 This is the thrilling action that people come to Slack for. That said, yeah. Okay. 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:40.000 The answer question is also do not use acronyms without those? 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:51.000 Okay, we, he did say what the acronym is for. You're not on mic, so people on mic will be hearing me go. 00:45:51.000 --> 00:46:03.000 I'm duly authorized. And. 00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:09.000 I don't care. right now, I don't think so. 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:19.000 Josh, there was one where there was, like, a little chart that we thought that your name was in, but we thought I was gonna show up in. 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:29.000 Okay. 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:35.000 You're like, can there be less paperwork in the future? It'd be helpful. 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:41.000 It would. You know, it's definitely… it's a… it's sort of a fact of dealing with the bond bank. 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:46.000 paperwork-intensive entity. You probably notice when you do 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:55.000 Loans with local commercial banks there aren't as complicated. 00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:06.000 And Eli, um. Since on the form where… It's a duly authorized representative that I'm listed, and all the sections here where it says duly authorized, I can sign, correct? 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.000 Yes. 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:15.000 Sorry. I will send these to you tomorrow. 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:20.000 Excellent. Thank you. 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.000 Alright, have a good night. 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:38.000 Century lie. Oh. Thank you, you too. You just made yourselves authorized representatives. That wasn't for us to send. That's okay. That was Carl's form to say that Josh was authorized to sign for us. But now you both are, too, so you might get drafted into something. Oh, fair enough. 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:46.000 You witness here on this. Um, on this day and. 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.000 On this, uh, 8th. She's 8. 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:56.000 Is it correctly? Yeah. I didn't know. 00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:01.000 They're gonna wear it up for the budget meeting. 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:14.000 Now you've authorized that. Oh, good, no, now they're on the hook. Okay. Excellent, thanks, Josh. We'll get back. So, did you get what you needed here? That's the important thing. 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:24.000 Okay, alright. Yeah, EVAC report. 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.000 No. 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:35.000 on behalf of the East Village, uh, Expansion Advisory Committee. 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:57.000 Um, so we, uh, passed. on… December 3rd, in a meeting, you patent unanimously passed a final report to the Select Board based upon the scope of work and charter provided by the Select Board. This report was broken down into several sections. Each section was approved by the committee individually and the report as a whole. 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:06.000 I'm confused to say that the committee unanimously passed every section in the final report, we did have one member absent on that day, but all 10 members approved every section. 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:15.000 Um, the sections, overview outline of the report are, uh, this report is on the EVEAC webpage on the town website, and that has been. 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:21.000 available, uh, I think we got it up there the next day on the 4th, or maybe the 5th. But anyway, it's there. 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:45.000 Um, and sent to the select board as well. Um, the outline of the report is the overall timelines and sequencing steps, complete with an appendix, which is a timeline table, which is a modified version of an earlier timeline. It explains very clearly that the timeline is based upon funding, and so, because that's not a known variable at this time, that that timeline may shift, but overall gives a general sequence of the steps. 00:49:45.000 --> 00:50:07.000 Regardless of when an official would start. Um, there's a project design, lots of conversations about the current design and considerations. There are a couple of things that are already in play at this time, such as the governor has issued an executive order. How does that play into wetlands? That would be a significant wetlands that haven't been officially designated, which is. 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:25.000 relevant to this particular piece of land. The, uh, there's a detailed budget, uh, which is the same budget that was part of the CDPGDR grant, um, that's provided in the appendix. Um, you know, that budget, uh, could be modifiable under various scenarios and contingencies. 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:33.000 There's a discussion on a number of financing options that the project could continue to look at. 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:41.000 There's also a detailed project management plan that has basically all the key management steps and what would be needed, um. 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:53.000 some considerations about what can be provided. Um, there is a lot sales plan with, uh, marketing considerations, things like that, and there is a permitting plan. 00:50:53.000 --> 00:51:00.000 There are some specific scopes of work that were not possible for the committee to complete, because, such as apply for all permits. 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:11.000 Because we're not… the project is not at a… it would need to be substantively enacted and moving forward in order to effectively apply for a permit, so therefore, that's not something that we could do, for example. 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:35.000 Um, based on the, you know, the past, the failing of the town bond vote, uh, and we were already in the direction of trying to wrap up the plan, uh, the committee determined that we should finish the plan, present it to the select board, and then we also held a vote at the same meeting, also unanimously, to recommend, as is per your packet, that the committee be, um. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:45.000 included as part of the process that we've subsequently completed the scope of work to the best extent that we could as a committee, and then we wrote this report that put together all of the best knowledge. 00:51:45.000 --> 00:52:00.000 that we had about the project today, which is quite expensive, and I think pretty thoughtful, so… Um, with that said, if… I hope you guys had a chance to look at that report, and it's happy to entertain any questions, uh, to the best that I can. 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:10.000 Any questions yet? echoing a message that Peter had sent on behalf of the board about the transfer of. 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.000 Um, findings, reports, um, engineering studies, things like this. 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:25.000 Just… yeah, just want to make sure that the mechanics whereby those materials are transferred to the town, and out of that committee before we dissolve the committee. 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:42.000 Yeah, so that, um, so Kim, uh, Madelinsky, uh, has been in touch with Bob Bancher, the talent website administrator, about, um, getting some of those documents. A number of them are… many of them are already on the town website, a number of other ones are on a Google website, which. 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:54.000 There's no reason that that Google website is gonna go away anytime soon, but still, additionally, how to preserve that stuff on the town website. So I understand that's being coordinated, um, and that is the intention. 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:59.000 Um, you know, as… I don't know the exact specifics of that, but that's what they're working on. 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:07.000 Crew. It sounds like, uh. 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.000 I was wondering… Uh, for the, uh, town report. 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:23.000 If you could send me… what's relevant and what needs to be in the town reporting. Thank you for bringing that up, Bram, because that actually is a question that I had for you. Could I just… 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:34.000 Because should I just send you the final report? That might be the most… It's certainly the best summary, and is not a bazillion pages long. 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:50.000 Yeah, I think the key thing, um, you know, just looking at costs and stuff, we just don't want something that's… I mean… I think the lengthy reports from committees tend to be… Uh, 3 or 4 pages, single spaced is a long one, so… 00:53:50.000 --> 00:54:01.000 This is 11 with… I was with Appendixel. It's 11 with 3 pages of appendices, is that acceptable? Could we… could we have a… did you say there was a summary? 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:19.000 The final report is effectively the summary. The summary, okay. I mean, so if 11 pages is too long, we could try to figure out how there's a synopsis and then a web link to the town website. Would that be better? I think a link to the site plus the offer for anyone who isn't. 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:33.000 on the net, uh, to have it available. I think that would be, as long as that's acceptable to Bram and Carol, the only way to realistically implement that is to say, if you can go to the town office and request a copy. I don't know what else to say. 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:46.000 Why don't I talk to you about this? I just want to see what the length of the… I'll send it to you, and then we'll figure it out. How about that? Yeah, that sounds good. Yep, thank you. 00:54:46.000 --> 00:55:08.000 Just to follow up what Francis asked about in the email that I had sent, and I appreciate what the company's trying to do, work with Bob Kitchen, got all that stuff there. Uh, there were some, um, you know, specific engineering studies that were paid for with grant monies and whatnot, and the town should have those, um, because there's important information there that can serve other purposes. Absolutely. 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:17.000 Just want to make sure you get that. I think that's the intention. I think there's a little question that there's probably going to have to be a slight, um, design element about, you know, because you can't just. 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:28.000 take one thing and throw it into another thing. You sort of have to structure it, and so how best to do that, I think, is what's being worked out. But yes, I think that's the… all of those should be there. 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:48.000 I totally agree. Great. Any other questions on the final report? I don't see any. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Now, should we do… Okay, great. Glad to hear that. Thank you. Yeah. Should we, uh, vote to dissolve the… 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:55.000 Ready? I'd like to make a motion to dissolve the East Village Expansion Advisory Committee. 00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:03.000 Second. Move and second. Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:09.000 Opposed? And that has been dissolved. Thank you very much. 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:21.000 Marion, and your whole team. A lot of work. So much. 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:31.000 Plainfield Housing Advisory Committee status… update. We're making calls, I guess. Do you have any updates for us, or anything? 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:35.000 Peter and I could tag-team this announcement, this update. Okay. 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:45.000 Um, part one is that calls are underway. interviews are underway. Um, we are still getting more applicants. 00:56:45.000 --> 00:57:06.000 Which is wonderful. Um, which just… I think we've, uh… came off of the harder deadline of tonight for appointments to give us the feeling of expansiveness around making sure we all have the chance to have the conversations that we could and wanted to have with the many candidates. 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:11.000 Um, so yeah, here we are, and ask the sounds of Peter. 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:24.000 Yeah, I wanted to thank Dan for putting spreadsheets together for tracking and, um, the, uh, interview forms that people have filled out. Um, as Francis Rhodes said, you know. 00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:46.000 We came off the hard deadline because, um, after the first round of requests went out, and we kind of… hit a dead end, um, and frankly didn't really have people to choose from. Um, sufficient numbers, and, um, so there have been some reposts and requests, and there was a second wave, uh, which was really nice. 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:55.000 Um, I've personally spoken to most of the people, um, at this point, and, um, they're very, very helpful conversations. 00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:58.000 I really think that, um, there is a mood of. 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:17.000 recognition that, um. We came through a difficult process, but that our housing needs have not gone away. And so, um, folks are interested in doing what they can to do that. So I think that's a positive note, and I do thank everybody for. 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:38.000 For, um, signing up. Um… I would also say that we've had a, um… Christy Farnham came to the Select Board a while back with an offer of making some presentations, um, with, um, you know, the folks that she works with at Northern Borders, at ACCD, uh, Historic Preservation Vermont, and some other folks. 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:45.000 Um, and, um, the thought was that they would come and make a presentation at some point to the Select Board. 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:57.000 And I question Francis wrote his name, but I said, why not make a presentation to the new housing committee? Right. And, like, 2 hours later, Christy sent an email to Francis Rose saying. 00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:04.000 you know, I can't get everybody here that night, why don't we make this to do… so it kind of organically, um, looks like. 00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:09.000 Uh, I think that's a good thing, and we have talked about the Select Board, um, probably. 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:17.000 warning the first meeting of the Housing Advisory Committee as the Special Select Board meeting, and actually us running. 00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:34.000 that first meeting as a launch, and maybe have those folks come and make a presentation to kind of get everyone on the same page, and to… give them, you know, a menu of resources that are out there as they start to do deeper dives into different aspects of. 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:44.000 of the housing issue, so… I mean, yeah. Or throw it. Don't do that. 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:53.000 Um, I would add, too, that that allows us not just the Housing Committee to hear from, um, this group of state officers. 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:59.000 Um, but also the select board kind of stacks the function. We're already hosting that meeting. 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:05.000 Specifically, this is, like, maybe a slight divergence in topic. 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:09.000 The meeting itself, or the, excuse me, the committee itself. 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:16.000 There's been a question floated, uh, whether or not 3 co-chairs is the appropriate form of. 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:32.000 chairpersonship for this committee. Um, or if we want the more standard chair, vice chair, um… I think this is a good moment for us to… address this, discuss this. 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.000 Um, just float opinions on the matter. Um, so that's the question. 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:46.000 What kind of chairpersonship is most appropriate for this committee? 01:00:46.000 --> 01:01:05.000 So, and I'd love to maybe… we have one of the chat activities online, but one of the three headed, uh, chairs from the EVAC with us. Two, Lauren. Okay, yeah, like I said, I couldn't read every name online. So, my understanding from that was that gave them, like, a natural agenda committee, and, like. 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:20.000 folks to check in and make sure things were moving forward, um, whether that's two people or 3 people, it does seem like… and I think it's just… semantics, whether it's chair and vice chair, because either one of them could run the meeting, depending on what they wanted to do, so there's no… 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:35.000 There's no requirement that the chair is the person who facilitates the meetings. That's just what usually happens. So, to me, I think 2 or 3 makes sense, so that there's a group that can help set agendas, work together, be there for each other if someone has to miss. 01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:48.000 Um, so, and I'm perfectly comfortable with them being co-equals, rather than… some sort of made-up subservient relationship. Just to note, Lauren Geiger says 3 chairs was fine. 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:59.000 for tri-chairs was fine for everyone. Thank you, Laura, for an 11-person commitment. Yeah, I mean, it's… They're only too different. I mean, that's not… And I'm thinking maybe we should just address it with. 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:07.000 the volunteers who are going to be at this meeting, and when… because one of the purposes of our… this special meeting will be to form. 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:13.000 the structure of the committee and give. requests for information that we were hoping they can come back with. 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:17.000 What I'm hoping for is some kind of actionable. 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:21.000 suggestions that the board could look at and decide on. 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:31.000 With costs, if possible, and… but ideas that are… something that the Select Board can handle. That would be my feeling. 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:55.000 I mean, my only… slowdown on that is at that first meeting, at least the way that Francis Rose and I ran the first meeting at the EVAC, the election of chairs as part of the first meeting, so they can run subsequent meetings, so we have to know whether they're electing two chairs or three chairs. We would, yes. At that meeting. We wouldn't be able to, like… How many jurors do you… like, it would be very unwieldy to decide that in the room on that night, and then… and then have them. 01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:06.000 select that number, I think, so we should just decide what feels comfortable, I think. Okay, quick poll in the room, Aaron. Yeah, what do you think, Arian? 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:17.000 I don't think you… I don't… not sure that it would be unwieldy to bring that up as the first topic of conversation for the group. Um, you know, you probably will have some people who have some. 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:28.000 significant opinions and may have put some significant thought into it. I would say that, uh, I don't see any down… I think both are totally functional. Three chairs totally work for the EVE AC, 2 chairs. 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:40.000 you know, could work for this. I don't see, like, an obvious wrong answer, so, you know, somewhat preference. Okay. And are we… are we thinking, do we have any kind of size of the group? 01:03:40.000 --> 01:04:10.000 Now I figured out? No. 9 was what was proposed. That was proposed, and that's what was proposed. Well, I guess, but not just proposed. We passed 9, with 3 co-chairs. Okay. That's what we passed in our… Why do we stick with that? That's what it currently says, but again, it's our committee, so we can, so… and we have made… we have tweaked it already, so, you know, following the Plainfield Forward stuff, so… Yeah, and if two of the chairs say three is okay, maybe we should stick with that. 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:15.000 What was decided before. Let's do that. Is that okay? I support that. 01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:25.000 And I, I mean, we will tell this group this explicitly, but if they figure that 3 is too many and it's unwieldy, they can always come back to us and ask us to amend. 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:39.000 the… what the scope of the committee is, and we can very easily do that if they, you know, said we actually only need 7 people, or we think, because of these reasons, we need 2 co-chairs. Like, I think all of that can be amended once we have the committee going. Yeah. Agreed. 01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:46.000 Okay. Yes. 01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:52.000 Uh, Michael, um, I wanted to make an offer to the Housing Advisory Committee. 01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:04.000 Within the town, um, uh, we have a, um, GIS mapper working for emergency management, who has the capacity to map out all the housing in the. 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:11.000 And to delineate which are open for sale, which are condemnable, which are, um. 01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:33.000 rehabable, and could work with the town clerk. And with, uh, Terrell, and find out which of those, um, were accurately depicted. And it always helps when there's a visualization at the time you have a meeting, so people can basically know what you're talking about when you're talking about housing stock. And I'd be happy to do that if that meets your needs. 01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:39.000 Thank you, that's a great offer. That sounds great. Um, and that'll be something we can offer at the meeting. 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:53.000 I'm looking at a calendar here, trying to decide when that might be. Do we have any sense of that yet? Well, we have to appoint first. That would be the… It seems like we have to have a select board meeting where we appoint the people, and in the future… 01:05:53.000 --> 01:06:01.000 once we've talked to those people about their schedules and what days of the week the times work, then we would schedule the first housing meeting, I think. Okay. 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:08.000 Um, we have a… our current select board schedule is that next Monday is a special. 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:21.000 Budget meeting focus, and then a regular meeting the Monday after that. On the 22nd. 2nd, yeah. I would hope that we could do the appointments on the 22nd, and then, uh, maybe we talk to, um. 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:39.000 Christy Farnham and her crew about. you know, we'll land early in January, we could convene, um… You know, the first actual email, because I don't think, realistically, stuff's going to happen over the holidays. No. I did want to add one other thing. You talked about the co-chairs. 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:45.000 Our charge also says something about appointing people to 1 to 3-year terms. 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:51.000 Um, and I'm just thinking as a practical matter, um, I'm not sure we need to do that kind of breakdown. 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:57.000 Um, I would just appoint people to a one-year terms, um, to start off with. 01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:03.000 Um, the people I've talked to, you know, in terms of time commitment, understand that, um. 01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:26.000 you know, housing is going to be an issue that's going to be with us for quite some time. You know, they're not looking to make 5- or 10-year commitments, but, you know, um… Um, I think, you know, forcing us to say, okay, who's a one-year term, who's a two-year term, who's a three-year term, puts extra work on us that's unnecessary at this point. 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:35.000 Yep, that makes sense to me. One practical matter is, uh, Christy Farnham's ACCD Northern Borders Group. 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:55.000 Um… I don't… they don't need to be in the first meeting of this group, of this committee, if it makes… I mean, if they're on the first date, we can come up with is actually in February, I'd rather get the Housing Committee going sooner. So I just wanted to clarify that. 01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:06.000 Um, which wasn't what was just ignored. But yeah, a preference to get them going sooner, even if it means the ACCD Northern Borders Group, um, checks in with them and us. 01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:11.000 And in future, though. 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:21.000 And what we did for the EBAC was… the select board, uh, gave permission… voted to give for… for two members of the Select Board. 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:29.000 to convene the committee during the first meeting until there's election of chairs to that flip over the meetings. So, we could… depending on timing. 01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:38.000 The sooner we get these folks together and building together, the better, I think. I'm curious about the thoughts about the 1-3 year terms. 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:47.000 Carl, you said it sounds good, but I didn't hear from anybody else. Yeah, to me, it's… one year is fine. One year sounds fine. Okay, yeah, good, good, good. 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:53.000 Yeah, thanks for that point. We don't want to make work for us or them. 01:08:53.000 --> 01:09:07.000 Okay, um. I guess that's all we need to do for now. But, uh, the idea would be… Thank you, Eric. Thanks, Aaron. 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:14.000 Um… regarding the timing, then, it sounds like we're going to be making calls for the next 2 weeks. 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:43.000 Uh, we want to appoint on the 22nd. Uh, and… and then plan on early January. There's a track… there's a… there's two sheets, spreadsheets. There's one where people have put in their, um, filled in their things, and their comments, and there's some good… Then there's the tracking sheet, where you can put in comments, and I would urge people to use that. I was using that, I know Francis Rose has used Carl, I know you have left a message with a couple of people, but… Yeah. 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:53.000 It's a place to put some notes, and um… Yeah. I know I've taken advantage of that, so… Yeah, and thanks for all you who set it up. It was, uh, really useful. 01:09:53.000 --> 01:10:04.000 Even though I screwed it up, but you were able to fix it, so… Okay, uh, can we talk about the Animal Control Ordinance revision? Yes. 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:17.000 Sorry, I can't read. Uh, so once again, just remind everybody, um… In order to put some teeth in. 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:22.000 Um, the town enforcement of quality of life issues and so forth. 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:31.000 Uh, we want to start issuing municipal tickets. Um, the one that was in the municipal ordinance that was in the best shape. 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:37.000 for doing this at this point is the animal control ordinance. 01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:51.000 Um, the only problem is there was one section that an expert from the league said is… seems unconstitutional for him and could force tickets to get thrown out if the judge reads the whole. 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:56.000 ordinance, which might happen. So, um, he recommended, uh, striking. 01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:07.000 I think it's section 7, Chapter F, which authorizes the town authorizes the Animal Control Officer to go onto property. 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:15.000 Um, and take action. Um, so if, if, you know, so the proposal is to basically. 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.000 strike that section. In terms of the process. 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:32.000 Um, the, um… townsfolk, if they have an objection to… Um, that particular amendment, uh, they can, um… Basically, within 44 days. 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:41.000 Um, you know, object and have a petition. To, um, you know, cancel this change. 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:59.000 Uh, it wouldn't cancel the ordinance, it would just cancel this particular change. I don't see a swell of… of people, uh, objecting to… something that seems blatantly unconstitutional. Um, the process is basically, if it will be adopted and signed tonight. 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:11.000 Um, I would post it, and in 5 places, and run a newspaper ad describing the change, and also detailing the change on the website. There already is something on the website talking about it. 01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:21.000 And it would… there's 44 days to… um, have the objections raised, and then it would take effect in 60 days. 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:48.000 6-0. So, we're not gonna be able to, you know, act in terms of writing tickets, uh… Until spring. Until… for a while. I mean, it's a… it's an arduous process, but I think that's to just safeguard against, you know, being rash about passing ordinances, which are different than policy, so… Thank you. 01:12:48.000 --> 01:13:01.000 Which is second to what Graham said about this ordinance being, uh, the closest to being ready. Um, we also looked at town health, we looked at parking and stuff, but this one is actually already structured to have. 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:07.000 what the municipal Ticket Bureau has, which is incentivizing people, incentivizing compliance. 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:23.000 Which is, here's a penalty, but if you basically say, okay, I agree with that, you get a waiver penalty, which is a much reduced thing. Um, and so, um… Um, it was structurally set up to do this, and this we reviewed with Trevor Whipple at the. 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:30.000 cities and towns, so… I would move that we adapt. 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.000 Yes. To amend the animal control ordinance by striking Section 7, subsection F. 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:48.000 Correct. And Bram did prepare a, uh, the full ordinance with the signature sheets for us to sign, and that's in the folders. Yep, I saw that. 01:13:48.000 --> 01:14:00.000 And there was an escalating fine. If there's a continual problem, there's escalating fines, as I noticed? Yes, that's already… That's already there. Yep, yep. 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.000 Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:08.000 All those in favor of this, say aye. Aye. Aye. 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:30.000 Okay, Bram, so you're gonna… so let me just… Yeah, can you find it for me? Oh, here it is, right here. Yeah, I'm like, I put it on top. Thank you. And it's on the last page. I will… Thank you again. And our answer next week, so you know right where to sign. All right. 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:39.000 Thanks for all that work on that, everybody. That's, uh… hopefully makes it easier for… Thank you. 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:49.000 control animals. 01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:58.000 Okay, Town Report, uh, it looks like you want to talk about printing. 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:14.000 Uh, yeah. Just, uh, just want to make sure everybody's comfortable here, um, you know, do you… want to simply keep on doing what we're doing in terms of. 01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:28.000 I think it's… I can't remember just… the numbers are… the printing is, um, about 3,800, and then with the mailing, that's another, um, brings it to the… I think 4600. 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:34.000 Um, and I just wanted to check in, I mean, other towns are doing different things. 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:46.000 Um, you know, we have, uh… some towns simply notify everybody that the report will be available at the town clerk's office. 01:15:46.000 --> 01:16:04.000 Um, you know, whatever, I'm not, I'm not advocating anything, I just, uh, you know, if everybody's comfortable, we'll just… keep on doing what we're doing. But if you feel differently, or you feel that the mailing everybody in the town, the town report is, um… 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:09.000 Not something you want to do. I mean the the the. 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:20.000 The idea of, um… sending out a notice that the town, before it is at the town office, would still make. 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:37.000 folks who can't get around well, they'd have a problem getting their report. Um, so I don't know… If that's the best approach. I'm not, yeah, I don't, I don't… You're just saying, yeah, I'm just… it's something that other towns are doing, I just want to keep you in the loop on it. We could just keep on doing what we're doing, it's fine. 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:42.000 Yeah, yeah, my sense, the town's been through a lot of stress. 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:48.000 And changes, and my inclination would be to keep doing… That's totally fine. 01:16:48.000 --> 01:17:15.000 Yeah, I would agree, especially because the, uh. The mailing part of it is actually a pretty small number compared to the printing. Um, we have an outside mail house who does it, so it's not a lot of extra work for our town. I will say, like, longer term, it may make sense, especially as we continue to promote the mailing list for folks who really want stuff by mail, um, which we're starting to do, and getting more names on, maybe in the future we look at it. 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:24.000 budgeted for the printing, so we should do it, but I do think we should think and maybe get, even get some… some town feedback, because. 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:33.000 One, our mail service is not great, and so I know lots of people who didn't get it, we probably paid for mail that did not arrive. And two. 01:17:33.000 --> 01:18:00.000 you know, not everybody wants. that in their mailbox. So, if we give people multiple options in ways to get things in the future. Great. Yeah, just checking in on… Yeah, no. Yeah, great. Yeah, I kind of like the same thing, too, and particularly because there's nice pictures and grants. Can we get a new photographer, though? I… having, you know, when you had your issues last year, I spent a lot. 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.000 time on the booth for him. I think, um, uh. 01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:14.000 There are some reports that could be a lot shorter than they have been. I think, and just off the top of my head, I know that the sheriff's report that we got, you know, was. 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:33.000 like, 5 pages long, and 3 of it was basically his biography. Right, and I was like, come on, people, you know, it's like… Yeah, no, I think past people are interested in, you know, the sex. Just to, um… it has been, uh, for decades and decades. 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:50.000 The town clerks, the responsibility to produce, um, the report. Um, in fact, the, um, the, the statutory power to, uh, do the report, uh, lies with the auditors. 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:56.000 And they, in some towns, the auditors actually go through… I tend to accept. 01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:10.000 uh, the town… the reports that are submitted, but I, I think I can go over it with you and stuff, uh, if there are things that look long or shaky or something. And we actually, uh, the very brief time I was an auditor. 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:19.000 we… I did review every single request, and we made, uh, corrections, and, like, talked to people, like, when budgets didn't add up, and other things. Um, so one talent. 01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:34.000 was edited heavily, I think it was your first down report as well. Yes, right, I'm sure of that, yeah, I'm sure that needed a lot of energy. Well, not because of you. Okay, great. Great. Sounds good. Thanks. And I should, I should just mention to the board that, uh. 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:46.000 Francis Rose and I are gonna work on… before it's report. Okay. And we'll send out a draft when we… I'll do the first draft, and… Francis Rose is going to review it. We'll send it to everybody else. 01:19:46.000 --> 01:20:02.000 for feedback, and get that in. It'll only be 30 or 40 pages, I'm sure. No worries. Okay, uh… This is the minutes from every meeting of the year. And all the little jokes, Dan. 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:17.000 Let's see, okay, this is… this is one that we can thank, uh… Patty and Peter for… following up on it, this is the road signs. Oh, yeah. The electronic road signs? Oh, I forgot there's one thing. Oh. 01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:27.000 One thing for Green. It was for many years, um, the practice in the town report. 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:40.000 to have a page of people who are delinquent in taxes. Now I, I, this was done away with a number of years ago. Once again, I'm not advocating it, but I have received phone calls from some people. 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:50.000 Who thinks it puts a fire under the tail of those who haven't paid their taxes? I'm not subscribing to that, but I just… if you want to think about. 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:58.000 Whether you want to add that or add other things, or not, or keep it the way it is, I'm just throwing that out there. 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:02.000 Yeah, I think the board should make that decision, but go ahead. 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:09.000 Um, I've had… one or two people comment to me that they'd like to see something like that. 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:17.000 Um, one issue that I see with that… is that by the time you have information and it goes to press. 01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:24.000 Months go by, and you may end up with people who've paid their bills and then are publicly embarrassed. 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:28.000 Yeah, because of that, and I have a problem with that. 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:34.000 Yeah. Not advocating there. Yeah, and I would just like to add, Peter, that, uh. 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000 There are people who just can't pay, and they're working out how to do it. 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:49.000 And like you say, they may have it resolved by the time town meeting comes, and they may not, but… Yeah, okay, well, we'll think about that. All of us should think about that. 01:21:49.000 --> 01:22:13.000 Okay, so we have the, uh… The feedback signs. Can you tell us anything about it? Yeah, first off, I want to thank Patty and Josh for, um, um… You know, several meetings that we've had, and conversations with Patty Coburn at VTRANS, and this, you know, comes out of, like, what we're trying to do with the intersection here. 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:21.000 And, uh, short-term, one of the things that VTRANS offered was to have their traffic safety people come out and go. 01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:31.000 from one end of the village to the other, and look at the current signage that was there. And so they went out and did that, and then on November 17th, they came back in, and they have just. 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:51.000 completed re-signing the entire village. There are new. several new speed limit 30 signs that have gone up. They've changed the yellow signs that kind of picture the intersection to more accurately reflect what the intersection is. There's a couple of watch for turning vehicle signs. 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:59.000 They've consolidated the electric vehicle charging and park and ride signs. They enlarged the arrows on the. 01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:17.000 Um, curve itself, um, and specifically recommended two locations for these driver feedback sites. And this is the… just so we're clear, it's a radar with a… It's a radar, it flashes, you know, here's what you're seeing. What your speed is, yeah. And the two places, um, where. 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:22.000 Where there's a new Speed 30 sign that's by one of the big flower pots. 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:36.000 maybe 100 feet this side of the library. You know, there's some, like, wooden pots along the road there. And then down right in front, there's a new Speed 30 sign in front of the school street apartments, the old high school. 01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:42.000 Um, and so, those are the two locations that they have specifically recommended that we put these signs. 01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:54.000 Um, I think I sent an email to you all that kind of lists some of the options and the price ranges. They start around $2,000 and can go up to $4,500, depending on. 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:58.000 Whether they're permanent, these would be permanent, those are cheaper than the mobile signs. 01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:09.000 Is there electricity? Are they solar-powered? Um, do you have programming that can do, like, traffic study information and stuff like that? Anyway, make a long story short. 01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:14.000 Um, I'd like to make a motion that we amend our. 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:21.000 town budget in, um… The… Josh gave the language, it's, it's. 01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:31.000 in the guardrails and sign. line item. We have $5,000 in there, we've spent about $3,000, and I would add, uh. 01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:36.000 $9,000 to that. That comes from the Act 27 funds. 01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:53.000 That's what we use to give additional money to the rec and public arts committee, and we had also set aside $7,500 for the better connections, and because that grant didn't go through, that's not being used, so… Uh, and I say 9,000, I think Josh can probably do this for around 6. 01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:59.000 Um, but it would give him flexibility to look at the different options and then not have to come back to us for. 01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:05.000 with extra money, so… and so the budget would be amended by adding that to that line item to be paid for with those funds. 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:13.000 Okay. Was that a Moshe? What's the name of the funding? At 27. 01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:18.000 Is that a motion? Yes. Okay. I will second that motion. 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:29.000 Okay, we have a motion and second. Yes. Just, uh, just one question about… So we know it's going to be $9,000 or less. 01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:39.000 Yeah. Adding it to that budget item puts that $9,000 in that budget item, and so, like, if there's… they only spent 6, the other $3,000 is now in that budget. Is there a reason why we. 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:52.000 wouldn't just approve the spending of up to $9,000 for the signs, and the rest of that $3,000 would then just stay in general, or the rest of the money would then stay in general funds? Short answer to your question? No. And that's exactly what we did with the REC. 01:25:52.000 --> 01:26:22.000 It just… yeah, I just… since we know exactly what this money is for, I just wonder why we don't just say, allowable up to… $9,000. That was my intent. Josh came back with the other, so I said I'd present it that way, but… Okay. In fact, what he will do is, whatever we spend, he will add it to that line item, and it will be a wash, and say, we spent $6,237.29, and this much income came back 27, and the additional wouldn't be sitting there. Well, based on unrestricted general funds. Well, not based on. 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:47.000 Correct. Because you just made the motion to move $9,000 to that… Correct, because I told Josh I would do that. Alright, I don't like… You want to make a friendly memo? I don't like the way this is… I would rather we allow up to $9,000 be spent on these signs out of Act 27. Act out of Act 27. That's what I would prefer just to… I'll accept that as a friendly amendment. 01:26:47.000 --> 01:27:04.000 Okay. And the second is also okay with it? Second stance. Alright. I'm glad everybody's so friendly. Did you have a point? And I… while you're going up there, I also would… would… favor getting the ones that are solar. 01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:22.000 and that have some kind of. system in it that will give us traffic information, such as how many of the drivers that go by are speeding. Yes, I think they will be solar because there's no easy way to direct power there. Can I just interject here? We've had an experience. 01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:29.000 Two of these signs before. One of them we had solar, the other one we had a battery. 01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:41.000 that the road crew has to change. solar, let's say, it was 30% more expensive, it's… please, let's go that direction. 01:27:41.000 --> 01:28:09.000 And not mess around. Yeah. I really think that self-coord made a bad decision. The second one, we're trying to save money, and, you know, it just ends up hourly wage, it's ridiculous. Yeah, no, we have the money, so I… Yeah. And there are varying levels of sophistication in data collection. I would just leave that to Josh to get… Yeah, the traffic information, particularly because it's this inter… And I would say this, you know. 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:25.000 I… I didn't even notice. that the science had been changed, and I sent Addy an email, and she said, I think we… our crew went out there last week and was like, okay. So I drove it back and forth to say, oh yeah, they did. Okay, but these things will be noticed. 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:44.000 Yes. And they are effective. Um, and, um, from our reports, so… you know, barring, you know, major reconstruction of this intersection. This is something very tangible that I think will have a positive effect on the safety here. And, just one additional thought. 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:56.000 Um, we're still talking to Patty, because they have a new contractor for the paving project that's slated for here in 2029, and we still are talking with them about. 01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:09.000 what they are going to do in terms of crosswalks and sidewalks and things like this. So this does not… negate those conversations at all. This is just something we were able to accomplish immediately. 01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:23.000 Um, couple thoughts I have. I'm just curious, and maybe you folks who have been in the meetings would have an answer, but, um, it feels like those are close to the intersection, where the state has placed them. 01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:31.000 I mean, I'd almost prefer to have one out by Maple, you know, Tim's, and one up near the post office. 01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:36.000 Because people come in at 50 miles an hour, and by the time they slow down to 30. 01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:41.000 I don't know, have you had any discussions like that with the state? 01:29:41.000 --> 01:30:07.000 No, not specifically. I think, um, you know, we could always… That's up to us. We could always petition, you know, file another, you know, Section 1111, you know, permit request. Yeah. They would have to come out and do a study again as to where to locate that, because they have to approve that. They've already pre-approved these two locations. Okay. I would say this, if we put them at the far ends. 01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:20.000 People might slow down there, but speed up by the time they get to the intersection. So, you know… and also, obviously, Tim's is outside the town, so we couldn't put signs outside of town borders. Right. 01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:28.000 Right. Um, the other question I had, and I don't know if we've had this conversation, but when they do the repaving project, and thinking about sidewalks. 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:47.000 I'm thinking about that section of sidewalk across from the post office down to 214. Did you… did you have a conversation with them on that? We haven't gotten there. Okay, but that's something that we should talk about. I mean, you may recall they came back to us with a scaled-down version, which basically extended the sidewalk from the. 01:30:47.000 --> 01:31:17.000 from the bridge over the Winooski up to and across from the town hall here, and across. Yes. And we threw some things back at them, like a crosswalk at the library, um, etc. Um… And, you know, potentially doing some other things with the island here, and guardrail. Um, those conversations haven't gone further because they have a new contractor, which I think is called CHA, and Michael, I don't know what CHA stands for, so I just call it CHA, okay? 01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:33.000 Uh, it's T. Um, anyway, uh… Uh, so, you know, waiting, and the last email I had with Patty Coburn was, let us know when you're ready to meet. Okay, great. 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:37.000 Great, okay, that's what I was going on with that. Um, just following up. 01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:42.000 When we got the two other, uh, signs that showed the speeding things. 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:47.000 Um, there is all these regulations about where you're allowed to put them, just so you know. 01:31:47.000 --> 01:32:09.000 In other words… They've already done that work for us. Right, no, no, no, I'm just saying that there's this thing about, well, maybe we should move it here or there. We could ask them, but I'm just saying, just be ready. Obviously, whatever they picked fits into all these very complicated rules. I'm okay with where it is. I mean, I don't want to make it harder. 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:17.000 Um, okay, well, that's great. So we have… Yeah, we have a motion in a second, and we've had some discussion. Any other discussion? 01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:27.000 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, great. 01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:45.000 Thanks for doing that work, you guys. It's been helpful. Uh, road commissioners… What's the building? Alright, he's online, I don't know if he wants… Is he still? Oh, okay. Josh, you available, or… He was online when he was sitting here, too. Yeah, I think that may just be a vestige of when he was here before. Yeah, I think so, too. 01:32:45.000 --> 01:33:05.000 But it's fine, he doesn't have to report. Well, we've heard about the sanding on Gray Road, and uh… And I guess, uh, Maxfield. Uh, okay, so… I guess they're on top of those. But I have been, when people call me complaining, I tell them to make a report. Yeah. 01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:23.000 on the website. Um… Okay, letter to Governor Scott regarding position of… FHWA. You wanna… Yes, I think, um, again, this was something that, um. 01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:27.000 we had talked about, um, when Josh reported back that, um. 01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:43.000 the Municipal Assistance Bureau at VTRANS said, uh, that federal highways recommended that they were… were not going to recommend any relocation of the Brook Road other than in the current right-of-way. And you talked briefly about, you know. 01:33:43.000 --> 01:34:04.000 the fact that Josh thought that perhaps the state was not as aggressive in being the municipal advocate that they should have here, and the fact that with the turnover at the folks at Federal Highways, there's currently isn't anyone who's actually been out here and set eyes on what the Brook Road looks like of the current federal staff. 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:17.000 Um, and so, uh, we thought, you know, what's the most effective way to push back? And so, we've crafted a letter here to Governor Scott. Um, we thanked, um, and I thank Josh and Karen Hatcher for. 01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:23.000 doing some feedback here, because they've been reading with some of the recovery people, Pat Moulton and Doug Farnham. 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:28.000 Thank them for that. But really pointed out that, um. 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:47.000 to the governor that what Federal Highways has said is not gonna work. You know, we've had washouts going back decades here, and it's always been put back in the same place, and they always wash out again, and so what is the point? This is a waste of power, 10% match money that's required on here. 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:58.000 And the estimates for, you know, what the. replacement there are… that are 10% match would equal our town budget. 01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:12.000 You know? And so, that's ridiculous. Um, and it's a waste of federal taxpayer money to just keep, you know, the… you know, you keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result, you know, it's just stupid. 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:36.000 And so, um, you know, we wanted to get the governor involved. And figuring by writing to him, he would talk to the Secretary of Transportation. It would trickle down to the folks at Municipal. Um, I also, um, mentioned to you, and I sent you the draft of that letter, I think you've seen it. This afternoon, I went into the office when I went out, and I've drafted a similar letter addressed to. 01:35:36.000 --> 01:36:00.000 jointly to our congressional delegation. Put all three of them on the same letter. Basically, it doesn't ask to meet like we're asking the governor, but it's basically to… and I put them all on the same letter so that we know that we want them to work together, and that we're addressing the governor with this as well, and that they should push on federal highways from their end, and basically the meat of that. 01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:22.000 a letter to them is the same. It's identical, it's just… you know, changes the reference to the dominant name, so… Anyway, I would love that we approve these letters, and I think there's a copy in there to sign to the governor. I don't have the copies for it. Yes, I think there's a copy in there also for, uh, the Congressional. Yeah, this is a teller Scott. 01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:26.000 I would move that we send those two letters. 01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:32.000 Second… Moved and seconded. Discussion. 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:37.000 I will say, uh… my wife Mary. 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:48.000 follow the instructions of writing to Peter Walsh, and she did last week. And we're going to have a Zoom meeting tomorrow with Rebecca from Peter Welsh's office. 01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:54.000 Nice. To, uh, discuss. how we feel, the town has been abandoned in certain areas. 01:36:54.000 --> 01:37:05.000 And Brook Road is one. But I have no trouble sending another letter to Peter Welsh as well. Awesome. Uh, but… I think it's important for people to know that. 01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:12.000 that these offices are responsive. And so, following up that way is really hopeful. 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:18.000 And there was a thread, um, started on playing field people by, um, Marion Montgomery Wells, um. 01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:43.000 on this subject. And, um, in there, we got some point of view right into, um, uh, Senator Welch, and people said, like, I think it was Don Fancher asked, you know, like, well, why, why, why Senator Authority wants us to say? And I said, well, let's wait till Monday's select board meeting, we'll do these letters. And I'll say, it doesn't have to be just Senator Welch, it should be, you know, Bernie and Becca. Absolutely, yeah. And, um, you know, all of their offices and, you know. 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:51.000 We can give them, um, some content as well, so… Yep. 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:58.000 Um, so we have a motion and second, and we should vote. All those in favor of sending these letters? 01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:03.000 As described, um… Say aye. Aye. Aye. 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:17.000 And I suppose. Okay, well, uh, these could be signed by all? Yes, yes. Okay. Yeah. You wanna… if we can start on the cassette, and we'll… Sure, yeah. I just took off the clip, so you're gonna have to dig ahead. 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:35.000 Thank you. Oops, I think I sent you my… agenda itself, Plainfield, uh… town hall agreement. Okay. Plainfield Arts Agreement. 01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:46.000 It's a kind of missing… Oh, there it is. 01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.000 Would you like me to go through this? Yes, would you? Yeah. 01:38:49.000 --> 01:39:06.000 So, um, in my other hat, I'm the president of the Plainfield Arts, so I'll be recusing myself from this vote. Um, but every year, uh, Plainfield Arts enters into an agreement to manage this building, the Town Hall Opera House, for the town. Um, there's quite a bit of. 01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:14.000 maintenance and looking after things, though, bills for maintenance go to the town, um, rentals, which, um, have been increasing steadily, I think. 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:21.000 2022, we had about, I don't know, $1400 worth of rentals, and last year we were close to $4,000 worth of rentals. 01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:31.000 Um, and I don't know this year's numbers yet, and He's not here, but, um, Keith Swan, who lives nearby, is the person who manages most of that for Plainfield Arts. 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:55.000 Um, and so the management agreement basically just, um, allows us to manage based on the town's protocols and procedures, um, and also, um, allows us to do performances in the space for free. Um, it also, um, shares that we have the carriage barn and parking lot across the street, which is available for folks to park in for town events and things of that nature. 01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:00.000 And the payment for the services, um. this year as it has been for the past. 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:14.000 um, 3 years is $5,000. Um, and, um, ideally, in the future, this would be an agreement that we would discuss, because we… the money goes into the budget that gets approved on town meeting day. 01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:23.000 And then the contract is supposed to start in July, which would have been, um, you know, 5 months ago. Um, so we've been managing the building for 5 months without a contract. 01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:40.000 Um, so ideally, like, sometime between March and July, this is when this would happen. We've always asked for the money in two pieces, that was, like, request of the town, so we would usually get it two times of the year. I don't actually know, and I haven't talked to Josh if two daemons actually make sense, but this agreement calls for. 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:44.000 January 15th and March 15th for these specific payments. 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:54.000 Um, and folks got the agreement, and there's, um, literally no changes. We… I will say we revert all rental fees to the town. 01:40:54.000 --> 01:41:01.000 Any questions? 01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:05.000 Uh, okay, I guess we want to vote on this. 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:10.000 you're gonna recuse yourself? I probably should recuse myself as well, since I'm on a committee. 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:40.000 Um, so all those in favor, say aye. Well, you have motion. So we didn't have a motion yet? No, I can't motion, because I'm refusing myself. I will say, just to… I'm refusing myself just because I wouldn't be signing the agreement for the organization. No money, none of this money goes to me personally or in any way, shape, or form. Technically, I think by our ethics laws of the state, I wouldn't have to recuse myself, I would just have to name this is a problem, and if one was no one else on the board had a problem with it, I could vote, but since I will be putting my signature on the document. 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:46.000 for the playing field arts, I'm accusing myself. Do we have a motion? 01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:53.000 That would make a motion that we authorize the Select Board to sign the. 01:41:53.000 --> 01:42:05.000 Management's eventual agreement of… Town Hall Opera House for these symbiotic purposes. 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:10.000 I second that motion. We have a motion and a second. 01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:16.000 Any more discussion? No, just that we should probably get this agreement much earlier in the year next year. 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.000 Like many things. Like many. It all started because of the flood. 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:30.000 We were on the right track, and then the flood happened, and we tried to get the select points of proof agreement in July of 24, and it all got off track after that. 01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:36.000 All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstain. 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:41.000 And we have… Did you abstain? I abstain, yes. 01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:48.000 And the minutes need to say that. Yep. And, uh, so it passes with, uh, 3 out of 5. 01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:54.000 It's our closest road in a while. Yeah, yeah. 01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:04.000 Okay, we have to talk about the. stipulation of accessibility coordination coordinator and a fuel authority. 01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:10.000 in grievance response. Alicia Weiss is here. Alicia, you there? 01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:12.000 I am. 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:15.000 Hi! 01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:21.000 My dogs have been exemplary for the last hour and a half. They will now go nuts, invariably. You know, some corollary of Murphy's Law. Okay, um… 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:25.000 Of course, yeah. 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:29.000 When we last spoke, uh… 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:32.000 the question was, would the… 01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:42.000 playing field accessibility advisory committee assume on an interim basis, the role of ADA coordinator. 01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.000 Uh, for the first… 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.000 Part of the grievance process, 01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:56.000 And there was some concern voiced by at least one of our members about capacity and what that would involve. We've since 01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:01.000 met and clarified that this is something we can do. 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:06.000 Uh, so we are fine with serving, again, as the… 01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:15.000 ADA coordinator on an interim basis, we do believe that as part of the town's commitment to accessibility and also 01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:22.000 For reasons, uh, to encourage or enable, uh, more rapid response. 01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:27.000 Uh, it should eventually be a role assigned to 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:33.000 a town employee, as it is in other towns, including other small towns, but for 01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:38.000 For now, we are fine with serving in that capacity, and we also had a 01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:44.000 discussed that. Were, uh, we unable to satisfactorily 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:54.000 resolve a complaint once investigation had indicate that there was, in fact, an ADA violation. 01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:56.000 that the Select Board 01:44:56.000 --> 01:45:01.000 or designee would serve, uh, as the appeals body. So I… 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:08.000 sent… I wasn't clear that you needed it for today's meeting, but I did send you a final draft of the 01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:11.000 procedure, uh, for you guys to sign off on today. 01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:14.000 Yep. 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:19.000 Questions? Comments? 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:29.000 Um, yes, so the fact that your committee can take on the role of investigation and review of the. 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:38.000 regulations, uh… takes it off the town staff, which is appreciated. Um, and I understand that the board would be the. 01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:56.000 a final arbitrator if it was needed. So, um, that's my understanding of it. Is there some more work that the town office is going to have to do? It sounded like the town clerk was doing something, and we want to make sure that. 01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:57.000 We're not adding a lot there. 01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:04.000 I'm not clear that the town clerk would be doing anything, uh, someone would need to forward us if something came in. 01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:11.000 by snail mail, some… one would need to alert us to the fact that there was a complaint, 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:13.000 We're hoping that for isolating, 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:21.000 instances of barriers, uh, whether they're in the physical or procedural sense, that people will use 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:33.000 that barrier accessibility barrier reporting form, which has been on the website for some time now, and we did, in fact, uh, get a response 01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:44.000 to that from one party. But, uh, this is for more, you know, thorough allegations of, uh, of discrimination. 01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:49.000 Um, so I think it's important that the town clerk's office knows. 01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:54.000 who to send information to if they should get it? Calls or letters. 01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:55.000 Right. Yeah. 01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:02.000 Uh, is that clear still, or could you… 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.000 Okay. 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:08.000 Uh, no, we will liaise with the town clerk's office about that. I didn't feel that that needed to be in the document. I mean, not… not everything we do needs to be transparent. 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:12.000 to the public when it's not of interest or benefit. 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:16.000 to them, and obviously, we will… 01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:18.000 rely on the… 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:24.000 office staff to assist us in directing us when appropriate to the 01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:29.000 appropriate person or office when a… 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:33.000 a complaint is, uh, lodged that 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:34.000 employs dysfunction in a particular area. 01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:38.000 Yep, okay. 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:42.000 Okay, any other questions, or… I think Peter had to stand up. Oh, Peter, sorry. 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:49.000 Alicia, I noticed it in the draft you sent us, you did change the, uh, 15 days to 30 days, etc. 01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:50.000 that we've talked about before. Yep. 01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:56.000 Yeah, that… we had talked about that, because we… 15 days is standard for larger… 01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:01.000 municipalities, we wanted to make sure that we had 01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:07.000 time to respond. Legit, you know, have reasonable time to respond. We're volunteers, we're… 01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:12.000 small. Some of us have disabilities of our own, and we just wanted to set reasonable… 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:16.000 I expectations. We also, uh, increased 01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:22.000 the reporting timeline to 60 days, which other towns have done, 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:27.000 Understanding that sometimes people with disabilities or just with life issues, 01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.000 cannot, within 30 days, uh, logic 01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:35.000 lodge a grievance, and we wanted to… 01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:39.000 accommodate, uh, those needs as well. 01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:46.000 Thank you. I would move that we adopt the grievance procedure under the ADA. 01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:55.000 Second? Anyone? I second. Okay. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 01:48:55.000 --> 01:49:05.000 Opposed. Uh, and we also need to, uh… point, uh… a committee member. 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:06.000 Mitch Pauley? 01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:12.000 Right. Mitch is unable to be here this evening. Um, Mitch did attend our… 01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:18.000 last meeting, committee meeting on the 3rd of December, uh… 01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:21.000 And wherein we reviewed 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:25.000 The work of the committee, what we've done to date, which was… 01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:27.000 Interesting, um… 01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.000 And reinforcing, and uh… 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:37.000 We are all enthusiastic about his joining the committee. Mitch has 20 years in the special 01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:44.000 education area. He's a special educator and administrator at the Maple Hill School. He's a resident 01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:48.000 of playing field, and I think he'll bring 01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:54.000 Uh, good enter… extra energy, knowledge, and also an, um… 01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:57.000 Help us remember to… 01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:05.000 include youth with disabilities in our work. 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:06.000 Yea, indeed. 01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:11.000 Great. Yay! Is there a… is there… what do… Alicia, do you remember what term… did we give you a term? Like, how long you served? 01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:17.000 No, you didn't. We were defined… we were told we were a seed committee and to go forth and do good things. 01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:19.000 Essentially, so… 01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:36.000 So we won't give much a term. I think it's… this is an ongoing question. There are, you know, there are… we have in the annual report what are called annual appointments, which is, for a lot of the committees, except there are places where. 01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:46.000 the charter of the committee, or state statute, like Planning Commission, you know, stipulates terms. And so, I think this comes under the annual appointments. Yeah, yeah. 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:54.000 Motion to appoint, Edge policy advisory Committee. I second. Second. 01:50:54.000 --> 01:51:02.000 Moved and seconded. Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:04.000 As opposed. Welcome, Mitch. 01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:11.000 Okay, thank you. That raises a question, though. If these are annual appointments, and we begin our work 01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:19.000 In April of last year, does this mean that we need to be reappointed in April 2026, or…? 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:24.000 find replacements, existing members? 01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:34.000 Now, so typically what happens, Alicia, is right after town meeting day, when the new select board is seated, there'll be a meeting where we just reappoint a bunch of people. And so we'll do that in March. 01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:41.000 If someone doesn't want to be reappointed, then they wouldn't be, but as long as people want to continue to serve, they would be reappointed at that time. 01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:44.000 Okay, thank you. 01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:45.000 Thanks. 01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:48.000 Thank you, Alicia. And we have another appointment for, uh. 01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:57.000 So, Roland, is it Roland? It's Rowland. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Um, just a brief comment to talk about the term limit. 01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:03.000 Uh, because we didn't request that specifically, and Peter brought it to my attention, which that, um. 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:07.000 We are asking for sales… I'm Vice Chair of the committee, Michael Billingsley. 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:18.000 that, um, we are asking that she'll be appointed until after town meeting in March. In other words, until March, because she's filling the seat vacated by Laura Grill. And then after that. 01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:23.000 Uh, because she seeks reimbortment, we will ask for that along with the other members of the committee. Great. 01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:29.000 Yep. And so is online, I don't know if they want to say anything. 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:30.000 So, can you hear me? 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:32.000 Yeah, Phil, you want to say anything, or… Yes. 01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:39.000 Okay, I see, yeah, I sent a special letter of interest to Carl and Francis Rose, but… 01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:48.000 Um, I would love to be part of the committee. I feel like I would be a new perspective on things, and um… 01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:56.000 That's it! Those are my goals! 01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:57.000 Thank you. 01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.000 That's fine. Well, we welcome you and appreciate the work you've done so far, and uh… We will, uh, yeah. 01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:06.000 Yeah. Motion to appoint Zill Rowland to the Hazard Mitigation Committee. 01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:13.000 Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:14.000 Thank you, guys! 01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:20.000 pose. Well, welcome again! 01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:28.000 Uh, motion to appoint Jeremy Matt as auditor to serve until the end of the term, which is March 3rd, 2026. 01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:34.000 Checking in. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? 01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:49.000 He did this last year, too. Yep. Okay. Town treasurer's report? Oh, yes. Do we still need, um, maybe this is Josh question, but Brandon might know. Do we still need a third auditor, or can we do? 01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:57.000 We want 3, but… Yeah, I am going to be looking for somebody. 01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:14.000 Uh, to step in, uh, for a town meeting. I, I don't know… the sedentatory, um… requirements, or if they say 3, I haven't gotten a clear answer about if 2 is, uh, acceptable. 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:21.000 Um, I just, uh, I just want to thank, uh, Bob, who was appointed last year with Jeremy. 01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:40.000 Uh, for serving last year. Um, he's not able to serve this year, but I just want to thank him for his service, and just to give a little bit of perspective on this, um… We are having a formal audit by an accounting firm. 01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:47.000 Uh, which is beginning. So, we will have a very close eye on the town finances. 01:54:47.000 --> 01:55:06.000 Um, the reason why. Um, the… this becomes sort of an issue, is it's very difficult to get people within the town boundaries to serve as auditor, and if we went outside to have somebody do it specifically for the meeting, it would be really expensive. 01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:11.000 So, that's why we go this route to get local people to. 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:14.000 Uh, to step up, and hopefully we'll have 3 hotel meeting. 01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:21.000 Okay, thanks for that. 01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:30.000 Dan. Motion to approve the minutes of the November 24, 2025 Queenfield Select Board? 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:38.000 Sigma. Moved and seconded. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. 01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:49.000 And… Motion to approve accounts payable for November 26, 2025, and payroll for December 4, 2025. 01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:56.000 Moved and seconded. Uh, this is all I got. Look what's in the capital. 01:55:56.000 --> 01:56:03.000 Nope, just two. I thought there was a third one there. Well… I mean… That's what's in there. 01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:07.000 I know, we can always pick it up on the list. 01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:13.000 Any further discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. 01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:26.000 Okay, announce… date for next Select Board meeting, which is next week. It's 15th, not the 22nd, but the 15th is going to be a special. 01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:32.000 special meeting, uh, focusing on. The budget. The budget. 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:39.000 And, um, and then the 22nd, we'll do the appointments for the committee. Okay. 01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:46.000 Alright, I think that's it. Motion to adjourn, and 7.56 PM. 01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:50.000 Seconded. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you all. Thank you all. 01:56:50.000 --> 01:57:00.000 Borrow?