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Town of Plainfield: This is, January 19th Select Board meeting. It's at 6 o'clock, we're opening the meeting, and, we will be, welcoming some of our guests. Changes to agenda, any recommendations for changes?

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Town of Plainfield: I guess I might have something, unless it's in here. I think child care is gonna come together for the town meeting. But there's an announcement. We'll wait for an announcement. We do have it on here? Yep. Silly me. No changes needed. Nope, nope.

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Town of Plainfield: No, thank you so much, NCA.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, announcements. There's gonna be childcare at the town meeting. There's gonna… hey! And we're gonna talk about it in depth, yeah. We were talking about it last year. I do want to remind everyone about the Thursday night, the 22nd. Peter Welsh is here at 6 o'clock for discussions about

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Town of Plainfield: the good and bad of FEMA, result… response to our flood.

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Town of Plainfield: And he's gonna give a, I guess, a little talk, and then questions. So people who want to have input should come.

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Town of Plainfield: Let's see…

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Town of Plainfield: Any other announcements? I was just wondering, Francis Rose, did you want to announce anything from the housing meeting the other night? Oh, yeah, we can do, like, a short report back. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, it went well. It was a strong first meeting. All,

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Town of Plainfield: committee members present, along with, Peter and myself as co-facilitators. And we had, you know, interested community members joining, both in the space and online.

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Town of Plainfield: I think there's clarity going forward about what the next steps are.

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Town of Plainfield: Which working groups are the ones with which to launch said committee? Looking at, perhaps.

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Town of Plainfield: like, a tighter timeline of what to try to accomplish this winter before the warm season, and then maybe transitioning some of the working groups beyond that, but not yet clear. Election of co-chairs was successful. Will Colgan, Liz Bignell, and Lydia Vitale are the co-chairs of that group. Nice.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, what would you have, Peter?

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Town of Plainfield: And that they have a web page on the town website. Yeah. Oh, that's great. They're going to continue to meet at Goddard, they've decided, at 5 o'clock rather than 6 o'clock. That seemed to be the consensus on every other Wednesday. Miracle that there was consensus at all. Yeah, for the foreseeable future. And your involvement, you two.

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Town of Plainfield: you've kind of turned it over, correct? This is the kickoff…

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Town of Plainfield: Yes, and in fact, Lydia took the motions and closed the meeting formally. Oh, excellent. Literally took the gavel, and… Well, good for you, thanks for doing that, but both of you. I got Will and Lydia. Who's the third co-chair? Lisbigno. Liz Bigno.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, felt good. Good energy, good energy. Good energy, good. I have one question on it. Is there any formal way of getting reports back to the board at some point? I mean, at some point, that'll happen, but… We can be in touch about their appearances here. Yeah. We can set up something similar to Aviac. Okay. Meanwhile, their meeting minutes.

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Town of Plainfield: will be, hopefully, approved, next time they meet, which is 2 weeks from Wednesday. Yeah, okay. So we'll, they are subject to the open meeting law as per the charge, so they will have

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Town of Plainfield: the Zoom videos and… Okay. …and all of that, so… Great. And do you have an announcement, Michael?

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Michael Billingsley: Yes, I do. I wanted to, first.

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Town of Plainfield: pursue.

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Michael Billingsley: Before I make my announcement, I wanted to ask if the Peter Welsh meeting could be recorded by whomever is running the Zoom on that. I have a conflicting event that I'm hosting in Marshfield, and I can't make it, so I'd love to see it after it's done.

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Michael Billingsley: My announcement is that the Emergency Management and Hazard Mitigation have completed a series of maps that help, or will help, with the planning of emergency evacuations by households and also by our first responders. And we'll be putting those maps, along with a

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Michael Billingsley: map that we made of available housing and, buyout housing in Plainfield. We'll be making those maps available online this week on the town website.

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Town of Plainfield: Great, thank you very much. And we warned the Peter Welt meeting as a select board meeting, so I think we are obligated to record it. Yep. It will be. And I should also say about that meeting, it's going to be on Zoom, but it's going to be muted on Zoom.

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Town of Plainfield: Because we have… we could have a potential lot of people who we don't know.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, I mean, I guess… is there a… I have not yet responded to Mary, who asked me to do this for that meeting. I'm willing to do that. Great. However…

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Town of Plainfield: Just muting them does not actually guarantee we don't get…

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Town of Plainfield: I think we would just have to… I think in the settings, and we may have to reset up the meeting, but there's a way to set it up so that…

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Town of Plainfield: Folks that aren't hosts can't turn off their mute button.

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Town of Plainfield: Or we could also have it if they can't have their cameras on, I mean, we can…

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Town of Plainfield: So, my sense was that it was going to be… all people on Zoom are going to be muted. They can watch the meeting and hear the meeting, but they can't talk on the meeting or have communication with us other than the text. I mean, we can turn off participant, audio and video, and then they just can't turn their cameras, and that way, no one could

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Town of Plainfield: horn bomb it, or speak during it. Right. That, I mean, there are ways to do it, we have to look, we have to make sure we set the settings up beforehand. Okay, are you gonna be here? I am not, I have to work late. Okay. So I might make the tail end of the meeting, but I won't be set up for anyone like that. How do we… can you set that up?

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Town of Plainfield: Not sure. That's, like, maybe a little… Yeah, okay. I can look into it, I can look into it.

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Michael Billingsley: A quick comment or response is that, I believe that the host of a meeting can mute every participant, but can deliberately unmute anyone that they choose, one at a time.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, I think we're also thinking of visual, correct? Yeah, no, I mean, I guess my wonder is, does muting the people guarantee no Zoom bombing? If we take their camera off, too, then yes. Okay. Like, if we… if we… I don't know by what mechanism they do that, so… You basically said it so that participants, so people that aren't hosts, which is us.

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Town of Plainfield: can't turn on their cameras and can't unmute themselves. Okay. And then they just can't do it at all. And is that done on the web, or is that's done on the web? I believe so. Okay, maybe I can… It's something that has to be done… I would do it before Thursday. I mean, maybe I'll do it at the end of this meeting, or try to. Yeah, we can try to go through it and see if we can get it done, and we might have to…

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Town of Plainfield: change the Zoom information, because usually you have to have it set up… we might have to either edit the meeting or redo the meeting.

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Town of Plainfield: Zoom credentials, just because… Yeah, I'm just thinking a big public event like that is like… Yeah, we don't pay for the Zoom where you have webinar style, which is, I don't think. Yeah, okay. Which is where they couldn't even at all. Okay. Any, public comment?

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Town of Plainfield: Other than that, thank you, Michael. Do we need Keith to help set it up at all? Keith Swan? Yeah, he'll be here. He'll be here to help set up? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But I'm hoping Francis Rose can help get this going, so that,

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Town of Plainfield: He doesn't have to do that, although I think he can, right? Yeah. He can. Well, I thought he could do everything, I thought he could do everything. Okay, public comment, nothing,

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Town of Plainfield: Town budgeting.

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Town of Plainfield: 50 minutes. That's what we got just now, right? Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: Great. So, you want to take a lead on this? Yeah, so what y'all have in front of you is the, the latest version, and hopefully the final version of the town budget. We have gone through all of the different areas, we, you know, after we got more revenue in,

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Town of Plainfield: A week ago, we added some money, back into some reserves, about $20,000 between the culvert, sidewalk, and bridge reserve funds.

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Town of Plainfield: We've, calculated, all of the pay raises for, staff based on the 2.7% that is the measure that we have in the personnel policy. We've calculated the step increases for the staff that have step increases this year. We've used…

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Town of Plainfield: more of an approximation, but close to a 2.5… 2.7% increase for all stipends. So, stipends are up slightly for most groups, other than, the listers who we spoke about, where they were moving from $25 an hour to $28 an hour, based on the market, and that we, upped them from

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Town of Plainfield: two listers to three listers as they're trying to, you know, have… their goal is to have a third lister by July 1st, so that budget is more than 2.7% bigger.

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Town of Plainfield: But otherwise, I mean, this shouldn't look too, different than what we've seen before. Thankfully, Sarah Macy from St. Albans helped us a ton with, you know, getting all this into a place where we could just do this more easily, and also has all of the

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Town of Plainfield: Calculations in the spreadsheet, so as we, as we moved people's…

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Town of Plainfield: Salary numbers around it also moved their tax and everything else around.

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Town of Plainfield: And so the bottom line, right now is we, expect A budget of…

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Town of Plainfield: 1.842047 and 44 cents budget, so $1.8… $1,843,047.44. We expect non-tax revenue of $515,260.

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Town of Plainfield: Which leaves us the amount to be raised in taxes to be $1,326,787.44, which is approximately $36,000 less than the taxable amount from last year, and so it's a 2.7% decrease in taxes for Plainfield revenues. And that's mostly because of income.

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Town of Plainfield: Our income is up, you know, more than we had last year, so that income and the amount of work we've been doing in FEMA, and having our road crew do work, and now we're going to be getting paid… we have some of that money in the bank that we can push forward to the next year, so…

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Town of Plainfield: Hopefully folks are happy to hear that it's a tax… slight tax decrease this year, and not a tax increase. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: That's great. Does that include some of the, help with the reserve funds? Yep, that includes, reserve fund-wise, it includes, $1,000 into the disaster reserve fund, and then, it's $10,000 into the other disaster reserve fund, too.

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Town of Plainfield: What's that?

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Town of Plainfield: That's under the… Here, I'd have to go through. Okay. It's $1,000 to the… it's $1,000 for the Shelter Reserve Fund, sorry, and then it's,

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Town of Plainfield: Where is all of these reserve funds? $500 into the rec reserve fund.

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Town of Plainfield: Fire department reserve funds were what they had requested, so $10,000 for fund expense, $12,500 for protective equipment, $10,000 for the building itself.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, if you look in… And then the sidewalks Reserve Fund, $500, like we did last year. The,

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Town of Plainfield: Bridge Projects Reserve Fund, $5,000. The Culverts Reserve Fund, $10,000. The Equipment and Vehicle, Reserve Fund, $50,000, which is, again, what we did last year. And then I have to find the one, that Disaster Reserve Fund, I always forget what,

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Town of Plainfield: what categories will I? I think it's under municipal.

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Town of Plainfield: Maybe under… The public safety.

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Town of Plainfield: Apologies.

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Town of Plainfield: It's the very top of the page. $5,000 under the Disaster Reserve Fund. Not to be confused with the Shelter Reserve Fund. Which has $1,000 in it as well. Yep. So that's pretty much what people wanted. Well, I mean, I think Josh is…

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Town of Plainfield: had a grander plan for reserve funds, but this is either doing the same as last year, or some slight increases, but there is something in all the reserve funds. That's fantastic. We just didn't… we, under advice from Sarah, when we get FEMA funds in, and Federal Highway funds in, we're able to… we can move those funds to reserve funds as we need to. And that's a select board decision. That's a select board decision, because they're non-taxable income.

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Town of Plainfield: So rather than front-loading them with a bunch of funds, because then it gets questionable about whether we're counting on FEMA money to

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Town of Plainfield: to pay down taxes, which is not allowed. So, in this way, we can add to reserve funds as we need, especially for culvert and bridge projects and things, in a way that is much cleaner financially, and the select board can make that decision as funds come in, and deciding what to do with funds as they come in, as we also will have competing priorities, like paying our 10% match for projects and other things. And paying back the bond

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Town of Plainfield: Things like that. We have to get 50% of the bond back every time we get a payment from the Feds. Right, right. And just basically watching our cash flow. Yes. So, because that's what we hit 2 years ago.

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Town of Plainfield: And I think people should be reminded that some of the money that we're getting, and some of the reason we…

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Town of Plainfield: have a nice amount of money, is that all the volunteer work that was done that was documented is being

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Town of Plainfield: supported by FEMA and Federal Highway and so on. So, those efforts really pay off, I think. The in-kind. The in-kind. Yeah. Andy, yeah. Well, first, let's acknowledge Dan and Moe for all the work they put in, tracking all those out. Oh, my goodness. And Mary, and Mary. Yeah. And Mary. The question I have is, I just heard you say the taxable amount

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Town of Plainfield: The amount of money you're raising from taxes is going down? $36,000. Compared to last year. Yes. We also just had this reappraisal where everybody's property values, for the most part, went up, not as… not… So how do those two things interact? Are people going to get lower tax bills, or is… how do these things… If I might… Yeah, go ahead. The… the… when we did the town-wide reappraisal.

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Town of Plainfield: Right? Those values came in before the tax rates were set for this year. So they already have had their impact.

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Town of Plainfield: Town ride reappraisals are a budget-neutral exercise.

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Town of Plainfield: The value goes up, the rate goes down. The amount you collect must remain the same, okay? So, I know anybody who's been following the Twinfield budget that says, oh, Plainfield's gonna see a 40-something or other, you know, cut in their tax rate. Tax rate. Rate, yeah. The article further went on to explain the common level of appraisal. Plainfield is now about

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Town of Plainfield: above 100% CLA. Marshfield is, like, 60%. That's where Plainfield was prior to. You get a penalty from the state for not keeping up with the market, so… Right. So your Plainfield's rate may go down, but now it's going to apply to a different number, so…

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, thanks for the question.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, any other high points or things that are likely to come up at town meeting? Because, we should have answers for those.

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Town of Plainfield: I, you know, I mean, the initiatives that people put in here, you know, the repeater system, the bumps in the contracts for the sheriffs and ambulance, those are all… They're all in here. So we're not, we're not cutting meat out of this budget, for sure. No, there may be some jiggling, as we all know. Josh has been, you know, updating the chart of accounts and stuff like that, and…

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Town of Plainfield: although he's…

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Town of Plainfield: you know, temporarily not working on that. We took his, you know, internet and phone numbers in here as where he had them spread out. Those may move around as we go through the year, but the whole amount is in there, so, you know, we may see some…

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Town of Plainfield: you know, tweaking, if you will, in the chart of accounts, but the budget's fine. I think the only other thing, and this would probably be a post-town meeting day once this budget is approved, I would suggest that the Select Board, look at all of our reserve accounts and maybe create a plan for reserve accounts.

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Town of Plainfield: like, a roadmap with the treasurer. Hopefully, he'll be back post-town meeting, and, really think about, you know, which ones might need money.

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Town of Plainfield: for what points, and then have that plan. That way, as money comes in from Pima and Federal Highway, it's already been thought about. And so I think a reserve fund plan would be something that would… doesn't need to be part of this budget, but would be a good next step. And I think… I think Josh is rightly thinking about

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Town of Plainfield: putting money aside as much as possible in the reserve funds so that when we're hit with either a surprise or just a need, like a grader or something, we have funds to put into it. It's better to do it up front. The other piece I would add to that, and Sarah has mentioned this too, is that we should have a cash flow

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Town of Plainfield: an understanding of the cash flow, and that will prevent, you know, surprise short-term borrowing.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, we've had some experience in recent years with cash flow concerns and… And then I have a question. Tangential to the budget, you know, this is, like, the higher level financial analysis.

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Town of Plainfield: Carol's been speaking about the need of a lower-level finance person to fill in for Josh. Has any progress been made in that department to help the office, file the necessary paperwork financially to keep us…

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Town of Plainfield: In the books. Some. It would be the… probably the most accurate answer. We did ask Sarah, based on her viewpoint, what she saw as key tasks, and number one is reconciling the bank account.

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Town of Plainfield: Without reconciling the bank account, you don't know… you don't have anything to compare your general ledger to. Completing the general ledger is job 2, okay? We don't know, there's a woman named… Bonnie, who works for Vermont League of Cities and Accounts.

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Town of Plainfield: who's doing some work. We don't have her job description, so we don't know what task they are supposed to be doing compared to these things that are identified. We're hoping to meet with Carol.

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Town of Plainfield: to say, what are the things that you're seeing that are not being… the specific tasks. Right. Not just the general cry for, you know, hire a financial person, but to do what? That isn't being done. We haven't arrived at that.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. But, for example, I mean, we had, you know, Bram,

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Town of Plainfield: you know, crying for help this past week with paying Twinfield.

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Town of Plainfield: Because they hadn't gotten their check, so now they've gotten their check. But, you know, because when Josh went out, the timing of that, there are those types of tasks where we need to identify those specifically before we can hire someone, because we don't… won't know exactly what to tell them to do.

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Town of Plainfield: And so we asked Sarah for her input, and she gave us that, but we still have

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Town of Plainfield: more investigation to do before we can define that job. I mean, she also noted, just looking at our network access, which is our software for the municipal software, that she thinks there might be some ways that we can streamline, that it seems like we're inputting things three times that we could be doing once, and that maybe there's some modules within that that aren't… that other towns are using that

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Town of Plainfield: that we may not be, and there might be some real time saved with not having to do things 3 times. Josh has said that as well, as he's learned. And so, I do wonder, and we should talk with Sarah, because I don't think she, you know, used all the 40 hours that we… we asked of her, like, I don't know if there's some more, like, ideas and consulting she could do. I think we have to talk to Bonnie first to figure out what Bonnie's doing before we could give, you know, any of that.

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Town of Plainfield: I do think there's a difference between what Bonnie and Sarah's doing, which is remote.

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Town of Plainfield: And potentially needing someone, you know, physically in the office, because, you know, obviously checks come in, and checks need to be written, and that kind of stuff. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: Again, this goes back to job descriptions. Yeah, we kind of keep coming back to that, don't we?

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Town of Plainfield: And, you know, job description for short-term temporary help is just as… needs to be just as specific. Well, it was very clear with Sarah what we wanted from her, and she got it done. And it sounds like we have an executive session coming with… next week, right? Whomever at the town office staff that wants to be here. Yeah. This is a moment to… do we want to do the executive session earlier or later?

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Town of Plainfield: I mean, we've heard from staff that earlier is better. Yeah. And we also should just check in with staff to see, especially the staff who requested it, to see…

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Town of Plainfield: who they were thinking would be in the executive session. I guess I thought that was just for Carol, no? Well, that's my question. I mean, if we are all convened, and there is more folks in the office who want to attend… Well, I just wonder… A staff member has asked for this. If the staff member wants to talk one on five, then that should be something that they have the ability to do, if that's what they want.

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Town of Plainfield: Or it could be, you know, other staff are downstairs.

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Town of Plainfield: I don't know, but we should at least allow that. Okay. We should find out exactly what she wants. Do you want just you and us? But I think before is, I mean, slightly before… Before is better for me, yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. And when you say before, you mean at 5 o'clock, at 4 o'clock? 5 o'clock. 5, I'd say 5.30, I don't know.

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Town of Plainfield: So I guess I thought she wanted her own session. Well, we can have a week to figure out. Okay, okay. Thank you. I just want her to get what she wants.

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Town of Plainfield: Are there other questions about the budget itself for Peter?

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Town of Plainfield: Well, I just want to acknowledge you guys for saving a ton of money, and you're going through line by line. I think it was just shy of $200,000 that you uncovered, and thank you both. It's really a service to the community. It was fun.

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Town of Plainfield: I guess, what happens to that money that came in? That's what sick people say. Peter and I have different ideas of fun, I think. Yeah. What happens to that money that came in that no one knew where it went?

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Town of Plainfield: It was, like, $9,000 or something.

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Town of Plainfield: And Carol said, where does this go? Oh, we… they knew what it was. It was… it was… it was one of two federal payments. It wasn't that no one knew where it went. As soon as we asked Karen, she was like, oh, of course it's this. Oh, okay. And just Carol didn't know where it went. Okay, okay. It was a federal highways check. Okay, great. Okay. Yeah. Good.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, if there's other questions, I can make a motion. I would suggest, unless somebody has a…

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Town of Plainfield: Anyone else? Specific questions?

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Town of Plainfield: This is… I think this is amazing that this got done, when you'd have Josh, and that was pretty scary. You guys did a wonderful job. Josh was able to help a tiny bit. Yeah, especially on the revenue side. So, Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion to approve the FY27 Plainfield Select Board budget and add to the Town Meeting Day articles the following language.

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Town of Plainfield: Java Town.

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Town of Plainfield: approved total fund expenditures of $1,842,047.44 to pay for the Administrative Operations, Fire and Rescue Department, and Highway Department of the Town of Plainfield for the period of July 1st, 2026 to June 30, 2027, of which $1,326,787.44 shall be raised by

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Town of Plainfield: Taxes, and $515,260 by non-tax revenue.

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Town of Plainfield: Second.

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Town of Plainfield: Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Town of Plainfield: Motion's carried unanimously. Thank you very much.

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Town of Plainfield: And that's how it'll appear in the, town report. Yep. I just took one of it from last year. Yeah, yeah. That'll work. And that was in 15 minutes, wasn't it? No, don't, but don't say that, because we'll…

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Town of Plainfield: There's a discussion about stormwater drainage. I think this might be Michael.

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Town of Plainfield: Michael?

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Michael Billingsley: Yes, I'm not gonna be comfortable speaking for Josh, but I can report

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Michael Billingsley: as I did already specifically to Carl, that there was and

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Michael Billingsley: There might be a conflict between the timing.

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Town of Plainfield: of a…

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Michael Billingsley: repaving of Main Street, if we also, as, seemed to be the case, need to replace the stormwater, drainage pipe that runs under Main Street from the corner of Greenery and Main all the way down as far as Positive 5.

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Michael Billingsley: So, basically I can't offer any guidance but to suggest that we might not want to pave the street before the, drainage situation is, upgraded.

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Town of Plainfield: Do we know when that's gonna happen? Does Josh have any ideas on that?

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Michael Billingsley: No, except that he said that there was… there were funds available to town, road commissioners to do that kind of work, and he had some idea that that money would be available in the future. I don't know if it was the near future or the… the more distant future.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, you started out by saying timing, I think that's the whole key to this. It obviously makes sense to pave after the pipe's in, but I don't want to postpone it 2 years, so we,

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Town of Plainfield: I don't know, you have a thought? I mean, my thought is, the bond we're putting out is for up to $250,000 for the paving project. I think if,

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Town of Plainfield: for some reason, there's a decision made by the road crew and the wastewater crew and the road commissioner that they're just gonna do the original piece of work, which is the East Hill piece to the park and ride, maybe it's to the corner of

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Town of Plainfield: Premier and Maine, then I think they can do that and still fall well within the $250. Yeah, yeah. There's also… I don't know that the bond has, like, a time limit, so if they just do the paving of that part, and then 6 months later, or a year later, they do the rest of the paving, they'll still have the money there for it. I don't know that we need to change the bond. I think it's just a… it's a planning piece for…

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Town of Plainfield: the road crew and Josh and others to figure out between now and the summer when we would actually start a paving project. That's my take on it. Any other thoughts?

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Michael Billingsley: there was a change in… potential change in plan to do both sections of Main Street paving at the same time, and I only threw my, comments in as a way of, considering the possibility of doing drainage in between.

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Michael Billingsley: That was it.

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Town of Plainfield: Yep, it's going to be more expensive if we do two trips, for sure, for sure. So, but your point is… Well, I mean, the quote that we got, and it's only a quote, was in the more of the 220 range, and so, like, even if it's… there is some bump up, because we have to do it in two pieces, we can see. I mean, I think that's a decision

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Town of Plainfield: for the Future Select Board to say, what's the actual timing on this culvert piece, on this drainage piece? How much delay is it? How much more cost is it to do it in two pieces? Like, I think those are all decisions that we can make if the voters decide to allow this bond to happen.

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Michael Billingsley: They would all…

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Michael Billingsley: I'm sorry, I would also add that I think Josh has the date that that money might be available on in the tip of his tongue. He may be able just to be able to answer a direct question about that.

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Town of Plainfield: I assume there's going to be a proposal and a review, and so there's a timing factor. I guess as someone who comes down East Hill Road every day, there's some spots in East Hill Road, especially up on Main Street and East Hill Road, where work has been done, and there's a big bump, and it'd be nice to have it all smooth. So, I would love to have it in two pieces.

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Town of Plainfield: in two sections, as long as we think we can afford it, it's not gonna hurt us too badly. But we have to talk to the road crew, and we have to talk to the water department, too, and see what

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Town of Plainfield: what their abilities are and plans are? Yeah, I think we do have to talk to them. You know, the initial talk was to pave that upper section of Main Street this past summer, and that was delayed because of

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Town of Plainfield: the potential for the housing project to intervene there. So now we're a year later, and that stretch is worse.

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Town of Plainfield: under the street, or sidewalk or people's yards that storm drain lies, but you probably have… will be getting into negotiations with landowners there, on right-of-way issues. So, again, I think we need to talk to the road foreman about the timing of that. I think the section of Main Street that is the worst, I think, is breaking apart.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. Well, I mean, it's pretty bad in front of Positive Pi as well. Well, yeah, there's that ditch. That's true. There's some serious problems with the road down farther as well. Okay, we'll keep talking about this with the people who are going to be responsible for it. I mean, I'm sensitive to the number of stakeholders that there are about this project. I mean, there's many moving pieces.

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Town of Plainfield: a lot… a complex timeline, many property owners, you know, right-of-way issues. Right. The road commissioner who's not here. I mean, I guess I'm wondering, it seems, perhaps wise to assign some kind of manager to

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Town of Plainfield: be negotiating with all the parties to, like, hold the threads, because there are many threads, is really what I'm saying. Yeah. And the work of holding all of them at the same time and coordinating communication might be its own task.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. Yeah, normal. Is that the yellow folder? Well, I mean, none of this is going to be decided or figured out until after the vote on March 3rd. Right.

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Michael Billingsley: A quick, quick, quick follow-up is that, Josh and I did wash it, watch, excuse me, walk that…

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Michael Billingsley: And, the drain line is not under any private property, it's in the town right away, all the way until, positive pi. And the, only property owners affected would be the two, I believe it's,

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Michael Billingsley: property… Positive Pi itself, and also Ben Graham's property, where the drain goes directly to the Winooski. If anyone is curious, they can see actual drainage grates down Main Street, and they are all in the street. So they are… that drain line is where those drain grates are visible.

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Town of Plainfield: Yep, okay, so that simplifies it a little. Thank you, Michael. Thanks.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, any other… Thoughts on the… this?

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Town of Plainfield: So.

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Town of Plainfield: There's no action to take right now, is there? But we are going to talk about the bond, that we have here, and whether to authorize this to go into the… in front of the voters.

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Town of Plainfield: So I'm gonna figure out which one is which here.

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Town of Plainfield: That's your instruction sheets.

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Town of Plainfield: Oh, that's right. Adopt two declaration documents, adopt resolution certificate, and sign the warning. Okay. The warning is, I'm sure, here. Of the declaration documents in the 18? Yes.

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Town of Plainfield: This declaration.

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Town of Plainfield: Declaration. Okay, so those two. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: Anybody else signing, or just you? Carl. Carl, so I think from a,

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Town of Plainfield: agenda perspective, the first agenda item was fund informational meeting resolution. One, I don't think we have that resolution tonight. I think Bram will have to give us yet a new date. I think it might be February 9th, but, I believe we can do that next week. Okay. When Bram is here.

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Town of Plainfield: And set that, I guess. That would be two weeks before.

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Town of Plainfield: I believe his plan was for us to have it on February 9th. Okay. So we can hold on to this. No, no, not on that. Not on this, but… There's two different, agenda items. Okay. Oh, here's the other one, yeah. Beyond letting people know it's gonna be February 9th, I think we… any kind of vote, there's, like, a whole warning and stuff, so I guess we could vote to hold it on February 9th, and then that gives Bram the opportunity to put the warning in.

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Town of Plainfield: I know he put work into trying to get this done.

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Town of Plainfield: this meeting, but without him here, it's hard to… Well, we can do the declarations, and that is the warning for the actual elect… the vote. Yeah. We also have to warn an informational meeting. That's right, okay, okay. It's just the way that our agenda sets up. Okay. Informational meeting is the first thing on the agenda? Yep, okay.

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Town of Plainfield: So I don't know if we want to make a motion to hold the informational meeting on the 9th of February? Bram's plan.

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Town of Plainfield: Let's do that, yeah, if we… yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: Casey needs the time to put the warning into the paper and stuff. Yeah. And that was a part of our meeting.

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Town of Plainfield: Was that… did we say 5.30 that night on the 9th? Yes. I think we did. Okay, yeah, that's… that's in my calendar. Is that the… that's not the date of our… That's our regular meeting. It's our regular meeting. It's not the executive session. Okay. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: I'm losing track of dates here. I know, I know, January's 3 weeks away. Yeah, 3 weeks away. That would be our regular meeting. Yes. And so we're gonna do the bond thing for a half an hour, and then the…

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Town of Plainfield: That's my regular meeting. And this will be review and public input and so forth. Answering questions. Yeah. And so my guess is that folks from the Highway Department and Water Department would be here to answer questions about the bond. We should invite them, yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'll make a motion to hold the water and paving bond informational meetings on Monday, February 9th at 5.30 p.m.

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Town of Plainfield: Second.

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Town of Plainfield: Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed?

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Town of Plainfield: And we will do that. Is that on your… that's on your radar, I assume, Francis Rose. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: Bond declarations. That's these two. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: You need to read them entirely. One is $250,000 for the paving.

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Town of Plainfield: Right. And all the whereases are pretty much the same. The same, yep. And… Which one are you on? This is the paving. Paving. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: to a special meeting on March 3rd, which is town meeting. This will be about. And this, once adopted, it'll be signed by the town clerk, who's already signed it.

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Town of Plainfield: So, I would move that we adopt the paving bond for 200, resolution, declaration of official intent. I second that. $250,000. I second that. Got a motion and second. Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, we've got that. That's the paving on. Our second declaration is for the,

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Town of Plainfield: School street sewer, excuse me, water line, amount not to exceed $700,000.

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Town of Plainfield: And again, this will take place by Australian ballot on 10 meeting day. It's water only. Yeah, it's water only.

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Town of Plainfield: And it's paid for by the users of the water. Yes.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, do we have a motion on that.

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Town of Plainfield: Did you make an option?

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Town of Plainfield: I don't remember. I thought maybe I did. So I will move, that we, do the water bond declaration, for $700,000.

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Town of Plainfield: Not too exceed. Second. Any discussion? Those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Town of Plainfield: Thank you. Graham has signed both of those. And then we have the resolution. Yep. This is the one…

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Town of Plainfield: Do we need… that we all need to sign. Do we need to pass the warning?

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Town of Plainfield: Where's this instruction sheet? Right here. Does it say… what did it say for the warning?

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Town of Plainfield: Adopt resolution… And to sign the warning, yeah, which is attached to it. So the resolution certificate, Ibram Tobin, that he's the duly appointed clerk.

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Town of Plainfield: Resolve that there's $700,000 in here for the school street, water, and $250,000 for the main street.

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Town of Plainfield: This will take place at town meeting, attested with his seal, and then here is the warning. The legal voters of the town of Plainfield hereby notified and warned to meet at 18 High Street, Plainfield on March 3rd, between the hours of 9 and…

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Town of Plainfield: 7, when the polls are open, to vote by Australian ballot. Article 1 is up to $700,000 for the…

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Town of Plainfield: Waterline Article 2 is $250,000 for up to $250,000 for the paving, and then the standard warning language, and if we approve it, all 5 of us will sign. And then there's the sample of the article.

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Town of Plainfield: The official ballot, and all of that will get posted. So… and I believe he has to do the newspaper warning as well. Yeah. Yeah. So, I will move that we adopt the resolution certificate.

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Town of Plainfield: Is that the…

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Town of Plainfield: Moved and seconded? Who's got the second? I did. Okay. Dan got it. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. He's faster than you are. That's alright, no, he's not, but it's okay. Moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, we have the resolution. And this is going around for signatures? Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: When you're all done signing, you just have to go right in the back order, the title on the top, and the ballot.

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Town of Plainfield: At the end. And then you can put that back in here.

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Town of Plainfield: Oops, I sent my… I sent my agenda video, okay? But where did I set my name? I lost my agenda. Where are you?

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Town of Plainfield: Oh, yeah. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: That's in the spot? Are we saying anything here?

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, no, the others just get signed by Brian. Yeah. There's just one signature here, yeah. So does this go, or no? That goes in front… that's the last page. That's the last, okay.

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Town of Plainfield: And there's the front. Okay. I lost my agenda for some reason. The next item is the, Challenger agreement. Okay. Thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: Child Care for Town Meeting Day. Okay. You want to talk about that? Yeah, we want to talk about that. Okay, so, so far, I've talked to Deb Gogna at, Twinfield School. She's in charge of health.

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Town of Plainfield: And, also she does the babysitting certified class.

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Town of Plainfield: So, teenagers take the class, they get certified in BBC, child care.

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Town of Plainfield: She's thrilled to death to help with this. We have at least 2 adults that want to do it. What? That's great. Yeah, she really wants to help with it. She loves it that the kids are really excited about it, the teenagers. We have to figure out how much, how many people do we need? Josh said we could pay them, but he didn't ever say how much that he got sick. Do we really only need 4 hours for town meeting?

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Town of Plainfield: Do we really only need 4 hours? Last year, it was forever, but it was… It still was under 4 hours. I think it was under the year itself was, like, 3 hours and 4 hours. Really? Okay, so… It felt like… It felt like… It felt like forever, okay. I'm sorry. They always do, aren't they? Okay, what was the… all that stuff about the… okay, so 4 hours. How much do we pay?

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Town of Plainfield: How much can we pay them? How many paid staff are there? Well, I think we… yes, the teenagers are getting statements also, I want them to have statements, but the certified adults should get 20 bucks an hour, I think. We should have two of… we have two of them. Yeah. Two adults, 20 bucks an hour.

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Town of Plainfield: 2 bucks times 4 hours, yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: And then we have, if we get… it would be cute to have, like, 3 teens that go out… and they're… they all know each other, so they're really great, they have really good chemistry. How many teens you talked about? Well, I don't know, we could probably get 3, we probably… we probably could get 10, but… I… I think… how many do we think we need? Did you put every… put that thing in about how many… did anybody respond to that? Or did you…

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Town of Plainfield: I was waiting on you to tell me now. Tell me to publish it. Publish it now. Thank you. We have lots of time. So, that's $260, if we have 3 teens getting $15 an hour for 4 hours apiece, and 2 adults getting $20 an hour for 4 hours also.

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Town of Plainfield: That's 80 plus 180 is 260. Which…

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Town of Plainfield: Which falls under our $300 limit, so we don't need to take any action on that. Oh, that's great! Okay, okay, so I will publish the… Perfect, perfect, thank you. Okay, so that would go on the published form. I'm not on Facebook.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. If someone could, like, pick it up off the forum and put it onto Facebook? That'd be great, too. Okay, so… So you got 5 caretakers? Is there some…

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Town of Plainfield: standard ratio of caretakers to kids. Well, we don't know how many kids we have. I don't think we're gonna get that many kids. No, no. So we might not have to have that many. I think that's, like, probably overstaffed? Yes. I think overstaffed is great. Five caretakers. And it will… 5 what? What'd you say? Five caretakers what? And there will be… There will be 5 to make up for it.

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Town of Plainfield: her preferred ratio, honestly. Oh, good! Oh, well… It will be at the library, right? Yeah, well, we… I called the Cutler. Angela has not gotten back to me. I've written her twice, I've called her, so I'm gonna go in and see her on Thursday. Okay, we gotta confirm that. She said yes last year. Yeah. I mean, they also asked us who wanted to have it at the greenery, is it the greenery? But I would love to have it at the Cutler, and she said yes last year, and we hardly did…

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Town of Plainfield: anything for her. So we'll have a sign-up sheet where parents have to sign in, leave their phone numbers so we know if we have to get ahold of them. They suggested that no one else takes kids out. Even if a rare parent comes or something, if you brought them in, you take them out.

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Town of Plainfield: Just to be safe. They have a nice place out back for sliding a little bit, and a lot of activities. I kind of wonder about things like, I'm gonna ask Angela about things like, what about snacks? Like, should we, provide a little bit of money? Should we ask kids to… people to bring their own snacks? Are we under $300? Can we throw some money in?

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Town of Plainfield: I only think about snacks is you gotta be careful of what people want their kids to eat, so if they can bring their own, it's probably better. Bring your own… what? That's 180 bucks. Bring your own snacks. So then we could, if we have any extra money, we could throw it in for, consumable stuff, like, construction paper, paper, so the library doesn't have to use

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Town of Plainfield: stuff. Like, they can use their markers and stuff, but consumable stuff. It would be nice to replace anything that's used, for sure. Yeah, yeah, so we could do it that way, just have Angela kind of say what we used. Yeah. And reimbursed? Okay. That seems to me to be a… Okay. Okay, great. I mean, ask Jane if she's got DI supplies at home. She might…

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Town of Plainfield: donate those. Oh, okay. She's got all kinds of stuff. I saw her just the other day, supplies.

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Town of Plainfield: What day is she down there? I saw her, I went to get the… She's there tomorrow, isn't she? Echo thing. I think she is there tomorrow. Was it last Tuesday? Okay. Okay, Tuesdays. I don't know, I know that. I think this was last Tuesday I saw. I went to get the Echo, I went to get the echo stuff, and she was there. I was like, I'll ask her, yeah. Okay. So it's, I mean, Francis Rose and I talked about last year, and…

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Town of Plainfield: We couldn't do anything about it, everyone had gone… we had time, but everyone had gone away, and so we're doing it before people go away, before they make clearance, because they will be away.

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Town of Plainfield: The school will be closed. Yeah. So, it'll be all set. Good. Well, thank you. Thank you for doing that. It's okay, we need to go apart for a while, but… Thank you for doing all the work on that. Oh, you're welcome. Can I see the, agenda?

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Town of Plainfield: I think… oh, thanks. I would have talked to you. It's stuck there somewhere. Oh, it's here, silly me. Sorry. I wish Betsy had been on the good topic, but she… Betsy, silly me. Okay, well, thanks for that. Planning Commission appointments, we have a…

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Town of Plainfield: An appointment, and I don't have a name here. I got it. Let's, nika. May I make a motion? Nika Rubin, yeah. Appoint Nika Rubin to the Planning Commission. We don't yet have a term length, I don't believe. We didn't hear back… That was one of the questions you brought up, Peter. Yeah, I mean, we can… we can appoint… it's only good till town meeting, and then we need to reappoint, unless we're doing a slot, and…

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Town of Plainfield: It's not a vacancy currently, it's an addition to,

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Town of Plainfield: That's a good point, yeah. To where it is right now, so we can take between now and town meeting to figure out what exactly this slot is.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. I'm making a motion to… I asked Will in an email, but I haven't heard back, so…

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Town of Plainfield: He's too busy sunning himself in Arizona. Let's go down there and hit him up. Did I hear a motion back? There's a motion to appoint Nico Rubin to the Planning Commission. Second, I second that. Okay, we have a motion and second. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you, Nico. Thank you, yeah, thank you, Nico. Great addition.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, and we'll have to figure out what term is that, but…

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Town of Plainfield: We'll get an answer on that. Approval of draft minutes of 1-12. Anyone want to make that motion? I would like to make the motion to approve the draft minutes of 1-12-20-26. Second.

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Town of Plainfield: All those in favor, say aye. Sorry, discussion. -Oh. On page 6, in the discussion of the…

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Town of Plainfield: taxed, health insurance item. There was a note that the health insurance had increased by 5 cents.

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Town of Plainfield: And it should read 5%. So I sent that to Jamie. The meeting notes are actually correct. You misspoke and said 5 cents in the meeting, so she did correctly… I looked that up. I said 5 cents? Correct. So she took proper notes. You improperly stated the case. So she can't change it. No, no. Oh, she didn't respond.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, so with the correction, then, can we say that the minutes with the correction? Yeah. Sounds good. Should I say it again?

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Town of Plainfield: Or is that it?

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Town of Plainfield: We have to, we have to vote on it. Okay. So, with, with the corrected minutes…

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Town of Plainfield: to 5% instead of 5 cents. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Unopposed.

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Town of Plainfield: Thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: What's the next words.

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Town of Plainfield: We have warrants to approve.

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Town of Plainfield: Motion to approve accounts payable for January 15th, 2026, and January 16th, 2026, and payroll for January 15, 2026.

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Town of Plainfield: I second it. Any discussion?

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Town of Plainfield: All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, our next date for select meeting, select board meeting, is 1-26-24. This is a regular meeting, correct? So,

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Town of Plainfield: And then we'll have a, executive session early, at 5, and then, we'll have our regular meeting starting at 6 o'clock, and people can zoom in if they want. Yeah, just, we should note for Jamie that…

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Town of Plainfield: the warning for the meeting, actually. So what we will need to do is start the meeting, call the meeting to order, and then vote to go in at 5. So technically, the select board meeting starts at 5 p.m. Yes. We will then vote to go into the executive session, and then when we come back out, we can start with…

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Town of Plainfield: changes to the agenda. Right, and if we're early, coming out, we'll just have to wait until 6, because people will… people will be coming out. So,

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, yes. Okay, should I ask Carol and ask her if she's expecting just her at this exact… at our executive session, just her as a staff? We need to find out how that's going to work, yes. But we're going to have the executive session scheduled. Yes, but do I need… I need to ask her, is it…

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Town of Plainfield: Just for her, right? Does she want this time just hers?

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Town of Plainfield: If that's what you want. We don't know that. No, is that what we need to know, as I say? Yeah, I think it's appropriate to ask. I also, I want to allow for the possibility that other members of the town office staff

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Town of Plainfield: are also able to be here. It's fine if Carol wants a moment alone with us, then that can start at 5, and then we can say, okay, and then 5.30, or whatever, will be the moment at which, if the other…

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Town of Plainfield: Folks at the town office, staff.

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Town of Plainfield: want to join, they may. We need to… we need to find that out, yeah. But I think that's a good plan. I just want to respect her by giving her the time that she… if she wants this… if she wants to talk to us… Agreed. …by herself, because she didn't want to talk to me by herself. She didn't want to. She said, we need an executive session, it's too hard. And I kind of got the feeling that she wanted her own session, but… Well, let's find out. Okay, thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: Let's make sure that she's here, because we've got 5 people… Oh, that would be bad. …giving up time. We need information from her as well. This is not a one-way street. Absolutely, yeah, and she has a lot to say, and she really feels like the town is in trouble, and she wants to stay in the town.

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Town of Plainfield: Yep, okay, can I ask what you and Francis Rose might already have on the agenda for the 26th?

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Town of Plainfield: I mean, we've met every week for the last 5 weeks, so we're, like, kind of current. I can check the… I can check my file.

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Town of Plainfield: But it's… it's not deep.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, how… here's a thought. We start at 6, and… with executive session.

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Town of Plainfield: If it's going to be a short meeting. Well, except if Carol would prefer it at the end of the workday. Oh, right, right, okay, alright.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. Then we get done at 7, that's fine. I'm seeing nothing exclusively called out for next week, already.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. Yeah, I haven't seen anything either, so… Not a lot collecting dust right now. Maybe that's a time to bring in… what about bringing in water and highway to talk about the… Oh, we still have to finish the articles.

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Town of Plainfield: For the warning. Yeah, that's true, yeah. We don't have the water and sewer budgets yet. And I think we have to officially vote, we did not officially vote on the Green Mountain Transit and the other articles. We have just voted on articles

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Town of Plainfield: 1 and 2, which are the bonds, and then we just voted on the budget, but all the other things that are going to be on the ballot, we need to vote for next week. Well, that's what Bram needs to bring all that. Alright, so, so I think the agenda item is finalized articles for town meeting warning. Yeah, okay. Okay, and then you mentioned water and highway. Are we, like, inviting… Water and wastewater. They have to bring their budgets by. They have to bring their budgets back.

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Town of Plainfield: And at that point, we can talk to them about the bond as well, perhaps. So we're inviting the whole commission, the Water and Wastewater Commission, to join us? No, no, somebody's got to represent them to bring their budget.

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Town of Plainfield: So we, if we have questions, we have somebody to ask.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, no, I mean, we can ask questions, but the numbers that they give us for water and wastewater, we just have to vote to put on the ballot. Yeah. We don't have any say over what the water and wastewater budget are. We just have to put the number… the water budget and the wastewater budget as articles on the ballot. But we need the numbers.

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Town of Plainfield: Yep. To do so. Okay. And hopefully Bram or someone will have that, like, in a way that's easy for us to go down.

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Town of Plainfield: Yep. Okay. And their budget has no bearing on this budget. Correct. Right.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, it's a separate budget. It's a user… it's a user budget. It's the… the only people who pay for the parts of that budget are the folks that are users of the system. Right, and they're the ones who'll pay back the bond.

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Town of Plainfield: Speaking of which, this is a… the… the… Sarah did include the interest for the paving bond in the budget that we adopted. She did include it, yes. She did include it, yes. Fantastic. So there's… the principal is deferred for a year, so that wouldn't show up next year. The same thing will be true of the water and sewer bond. It's just interest first. I think we owe Sarah Macy a big thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: I know we paid her, but still, I don't know if we paid her yet. Do we need to talk to Dan Caddy about anything? It seems like he's always writing down… he's always telling us stuff that is happening.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, which meeting of the month is usually his report? It's usually the first, the second, rather, the second one. So it is usually next week. It'll usually be next week, right. Okay, great. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: No, no, it wouldn't… that would be the fourth. Well, that's… but that's our… you mean it's the… it's our first meeting of the month, the second week of the month? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The fourth week of the month is our second meeting of the month, regular meeting. Gotcha, gotcha. We gotta get away from these every week meetings. Well, we are, you know? This is the last special meeting we're having. And we did put $500, for expenses for the constable in this budget as well. Yes, good.

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Town of Plainfield: As requested. I make a motion we have adjourn at 6.57 p.m. I, I…

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Town of Plainfield: Anyone like to second that? I would second that. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Is that Andy? All those in favor, say aye.

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Town of Plainfield: Aye. Aye. Thank you. Those opposed? Aye. Thank you. Cut the recording and mute us, but don't turn it off.

