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Town of Plainfield: Okay, this is the public hearing for… before our Select Board meeting. It's, February 9th, and we are going to be talking about bond votes for a highway bond of $250,000.

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Town of Plainfield: And a water line on School Street for, $700.

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Town of Plainfield: I believe, and so, we probably should start with the water department. Hey, Brim, if you can give him one, and then Peter and Patty will be here. Thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: Aye.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. So, we should probably, start with water sewer, because you're right here. So, our understanding is that there was a…

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Town of Plainfield: originally a bond request for $750,000. The… Just, Tristan, maybe he should go to the microphone? Well, he… they'll be able to be hearing from you. Got it. Okay, just say your name before it starts. Yeah, yeah. But you had done work, there had been work done on School Street prior to

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Town of Plainfield: to this request, so we've dropped it to 700. That's what I understand.

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Town of Plainfield: So what can you tell us? What exactly is it, and what are we looking to… So I have a short presentation. Yeah, Nate, if you want to give… Yeah, Nate, yeah, yeah. And Nate, if you just state your name and where you're from, that'd be helpful. Nate Pion with Aldrich & Elliott. We're the engineering firm working with the town on the School Street water line replacement project.

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Town of Plainfield: I'd have to work through some…

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Town of Plainfield: Technical difficulties, I just sent my request to share. Just approved. Okay, perfect.

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Town of Plainfield: Bear with me a sec, my apologies.

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Town of Plainfield: Preservation…

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Town of Plainfield: Perfect.

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Town of Plainfield: There we go. There we go. Okay, perfect. So yet again, Nate Pion with Aldrich & Elliott, the engineering firm working with the town of Plainfield on the School Street water line replacement. This is the informational meeting for the bond vote scheduled for town meeting. The project area, as you can see on your screen, is parallel with School Street. It's a cross-country route from Harvey Hill Road

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Town of Plainfield: Out towards Hillside Drive, and then up to Bunker Hill Circle. So it's a cross-country route. It's an older water line, about 2-inch or 3-inch galvanized, water line through that area. Is that, is that near the Harvey Hill end?

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Town of Plainfield: Yes, it transitions from 3 to 2 as you go from Harvey Hill out towards Walker Hill. So it's an existing galvanized water line that runs behind School Street, one of the oldest in the distribution system. It's undersized for the need of the distribution system currently, and it's had many breaks recently. Tristan in the water department recently replaced a section

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Town of Plainfield: of water line by the school street apartments, which was originally going to be part of this project, but they proactively replaced it due to known leaks on that section, and also due to the drought conditions, trying to tighten up the system on water loss. So, we're, like, looking to replace the remaining section, as I mentioned, from Harvey Hill Road to Hillside Drive, and then up to Bunker Hill.

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Town of Plainfield: The proposed improvement is replacing that existing 2 inch and 3-inch galvanized steel water main with a new 4-inch PVC water main.

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Town of Plainfield: It's approximately 1,650 linear feet of new water line. That'll include new services, up to the curb stops, new curb stops, which are the isolation valves for each of the individual services. It also includes some flushing hydrants, some inline valves, other purposes, pretty typical with, a water system project or a water distribution project.

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Town of Plainfield: The project schedule, looking to, conduct the bond vote in March during town meeting, and then, assuming we have all our easements in place, with the private property owners, we'll begin construction this late summer, early fall. And it should be a pretty short construction duration, we're estimating about 3 months for the project. So, assuming we get, a bucket in the ground this late summer, early fall, we'll have

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Town of Plainfield: wrapped up this year, then that'll start the one-year substantial completion.

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Town of Plainfield: Total project costs, the construction is estimated to be $465,500. We're holding a 10% construction contingency, and then engineering costs, some of which have already been incurred for the preliminary engineering, the final design, and then also construction services while the work is occurring. There's other costs involved, legal, administrative, that the town

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Town of Plainfield: will also incur. So that's all included in that total project cost that you see of $693,300. And the recommended bond amount is just slightly above that, rounding up for, to be a little conservative, $700,000, and that includes all those items I just mentioned. The town has applied for financing through the State of Vermont Drinking Water State Revolving Fund. The town is eligible for

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Town of Plainfield: a construction subsidy as a disadvantaged system or disadvantaged municipality, or 50% construction subsidy, so $350,000, so half of that total bond amount. And the remaining, amount will be via a loan, which will be 0% interest over 40 years.

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Town of Plainfield: The impact… Did you say 40? 4-0? 40 years, 4-0, yes. Okay. The annual loan amount with those terms, that 0% interest over 40 years, with that $350,000 construction subsidy, leaves an estimated annual payment of $875… 800…

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Town of Plainfield: Excuse me, $8,750 per year. That'll be the loan amount, that the water system will have to pay on an annual basis.

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Town of Plainfield: The typical residential water customer, will see their bill increase about $2 per month, about $23 per year, and the debt retirement for the proposed water project will be paid for only by the water system customers.

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Town of Plainfield: So I just want to make that clear. While the town is voting as a whole on this, only the water customers are paying it back through their annual, water rates.

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Town of Plainfield: Project schedule implementation, you know, we started this project with the town back in 2019. It was delayed as, with the flooding impacts and other issues. This got pushed down the line, but we finished the design. We've submitted a permit to construct to the Drinking Water and Groundwater Protection Division. We're going through with the bond vote this March 2026, with the anticipation of beginning construction.

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Town of Plainfield: This year as well. And then the SRF loan repayment would begin one year after substantial completion.

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Town of Plainfield: substantial completion is October 31st of 2026, that first loan payment wouldn't be due until 2027.

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Town of Plainfield: Reminder, it's, on the bond article for Town Meeting, Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026, from 9 to 7, here at the Town Hall Opera House.

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Town of Plainfield: And with that, I'll open it up to questions. I'll start.

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Town of Plainfield: Yes. Two questions. One, what's the life… like, how long does a PVC pipe like that last? Yeah, so PVC's been around since, I would say, the 70s. The estimated useful life of PVC is approximately 70 years. 7-0? 7-0, yes. And then, what is the plan, because this is obviously Route 2, School Street is Route 2, what's the traffic plan during…

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Town of Plainfield: So, most of this is behind School Street, so impact and traffic's probably gonna be minimal, just, you know, you have a dump truck coming through with material. It's not going to be as if we're digging through School Street, because everything's behind it, the backyards.

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Town of Plainfield: Great, great.

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Town of Plainfield: I had a question about hydrants. Is there any additional hydrants, or do we have some that we just hook up again? So, we'll have new flushing hydrants. They won't be fire hydrants, because it's going to be a 4-inch, diameter main. Oh, not big. Anything that has a fire hydrant needs to have an 8-inch diameter. We'll have flushing hydrants. We have two proposed flushing hydrants included, so that you have the means to

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Town of Plainfield: Flush out the pipe, clean it on an annual, biannual basis, and we'll have new gate valves, isolation valves, etc.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, good. You have a question? I do. I'm realizing I don't know who it's for. The language for the bond vote has already been written.

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Town of Plainfield: Specifically $700,000. And with the $350,000 subsidy coming back from the state, I kind of wish we had… Well, to not just exceed $700. Oh, I know, but I guess there's no note to say to the people who might be concerned about $700,000 that half of it is being covered by the state. So the language in the article does say, subject to reduction by application of

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Town of Plainfield: federal and state grants and aid and reserve funds. So, that's typically how I've seen bond attorneys phrase it, because, you know, this is an anticipated grant amount, or a subsidy. It's not a guarantee until you sign the loan documents, so that's typically attorney language to say, you know, subject to reduction. I got you. Alright.

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Town of Plainfield: I think also, with these kinds of bonds, there's not a lot of latitude for, side notes or context setting. They're very legal. Like, our bond attorney helped us, you know, write the pieces, so it's… you can't, you can't, put a whole narrative along with it. It's really just the language.

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Town of Plainfield: But we can discuss what you just discussed at the town meeting, so people will get… be aware of what we're trying to do. Good. Any other questions?

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Town of Plainfield: You're welcome, Patty. Yes, Charlie? Yeah, Charlie Conquer.

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Town of Plainfield: Does this go all the way to Bunker Hill? Yes, it connects to the existing line that was recently replaced at the Bunker Hill. It connects to it. Is there any construction going to be on Marshfield property?

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Town of Plainfield: Yes, because part of Bunker Hill is in Marshfield. And have anybody in Marshfield been contacted a specific usage of the system, even though they can't vote?

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Town of Plainfield: It's, taxation without representation, and then there are people in the playing field that are representation without taxation, but I wonder if Markfield has been contacted.

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Town of Plainfield: I can't answer that question. Yeah, I don't… I don't think we've done it. Tristan, do you want to introduce yourself, and then… Sure. Tristan McGregor-Stewart, Chief Operator for the Water and Ice Water System.

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Town of Plainfield: We haven't specifically reached out to anyone in select order 8 for the town of Marshfield. All property owners that this, project with impact would be contacted the easements will be signed.

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Town of Plainfield: There's not a specific need for…

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Town of Plainfield: Marshfield, because it doesn't go through any property that owned specifically by the town of Marshfield, there's no one…

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Town of Plainfield: There's no need to specifically reach out to them.

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Town of Plainfield: them know, just the owners of any property in Barsha that would be impacted.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: Any other questions?

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Town of Plainfield: Any questions online?

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Town of Plainfield: It seemed like a Daniel Hardy had a question, but then he lost audio, so… I think maybe that was Daniel Hardy's question. Got it.

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Town of Plainfield: Goodbye.

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Town of Plainfield: Are we waiting for… No, no, I think I'm… Oh, okay. Alright, is there any… I'm not quite sure what the next step is, I guess we… Well, that's it. We did the informational meeting. Yeah, that's the informational meeting, and we really appreciate you coming out and explaining it. Sure. I left some handouts, just as sort of a one-pager summarizing everything from the PowerPoint presentation. Bram has a copy of it via email.

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Town of Plainfield: but there's hard copies there. Okay. No one has it and wants to share it with others in the community. And will there be representation at the town meeting if there's questions that we haven't talked about tonight?

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Town of Plainfield: You're not planning to be there, Tristan. You're not usually there, but… I can't really anticipate there's going to be a need for it. I can probably set aside some time to be here. Yeah, I'm not sure it's critical, but we can talk about it. It technically doesn't get… it's not on the agenda. The things that are on Australian Ballot aren't on the agenda for that meeting itself. Oh, that's right, yeah. The water and wastewater budget will be on the agenda, as always, so…

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Town of Plainfield: Right. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, sometimes there's questions we can't answer at that time, but we need to, because there's a voting going on.

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Town of Plainfield: But thank you for coming in, and… Thank you all very much. …filling us in. Thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, we have a highway bond that we want to discuss. This is for, $250,000. I have here a…

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Town of Plainfield: a bid from Pike Industries, for $209,704 for the project that would extend from east… from Route 2 to Maple Hill.

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Town of Plainfield: And basically do all of Main Street.

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Town of Plainfield: And we have, I found out today, talking to Mike Bingham, that

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Town of Plainfield: we have, a Class 2 road and a Class 3 road that incorporates Main Street. So,

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Town of Plainfield: It's, it's kind of broken down that way.

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Town of Plainfield: The recommendation is that even though the bid is for $209, that's today's dollars, and there's other things that… that we need to do along the east hillside of the road, which is not part of this quote.

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Town of Plainfield: And, Mike would like to have funding to help do that. So…

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Town of Plainfield: He suggests we stay with $250,000 as a bond, which is what we've already put out. Yeah, it's already on the ballot language, so… Right. But he's still confirming that. And that's just one, obviously, when we go to actually bid the project, we would get the requisite number of bids. Right. This is just to help us cost out the project. Right, and we don't have to borrow $250,000, but we… Yeah. And we also don't have to go with Pike Industries if we find other… Right. But yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: Right? But we needed something that we could point to. So, any questions on the…

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Town of Plainfield: Road Resurfacing bid.

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Town of Plainfield: And bond, quote.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it's Michael Billingsley. Are you, just paving from the corner of Greenery uphill, basically?

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Town of Plainfield: He's going right to Route 2. Right to the bridge, I think. Over the bridge. But not… but that's what we're… we're bonding to have that ability. Right. But then the actual conversation about the project and what'll be the scope would be after we get the bond in. Right. Because I know there's conversation about culverts and things like that, I think. Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: those are still conversations that could be had. This just gives us the ability to pave the most amount of Main Street as possible. That includes the, I think, what some people think of as the Main Street Extension, which goes up to East Hill. So we had an earlier discussion that there could be a need to chair up the new street. Well, I talked to Mike about that, because I remember you said that, and he's planning to do it with his own road crew.

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Town of Plainfield: He's planning to rebuild those storm drains, not changing the pipes, but rebuild the storm drains, so that, when they pave, it's all a uniform surface. Okay, well, Josh thought they were on your sides. Yeah, well… I was just taking his word for that. Yeah, I don't know what to say about that, other than,

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Town of Plainfield: We know there's work to do on the storm drains, and there's two of them, apparently, that they want to get done, so they're going to do those.

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Town of Plainfield: The, micah told me that the… Those roads are about,

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Town of Plainfield: let's see, 2000 was one of them, and 2000… no, 2009 and 2011 were the two dates of the roads to resurfacing. So, you know, we get 6 or 7 years, and then have to do it again. So, if there's a pipe size change, we're gonna have to deal with it.

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Town of Plainfield: Later on, I think. You mean 16 or 17 years? Oh, right, yeah. A little longer. Yeah, a little longer.

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Town of Plainfield: So, anyway, that… we took that into account, and… but the critical work that's on the surface is going to be fixed before it's… I bring up the point only because I know storm drainage at the present time, storm water drainage at the present time.

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Town of Plainfield: is small. Is inadequate, and does, in fact, overtax the drainage system, and it's probably only going to get worse, so I thought I should bring it up again.

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Town of Plainfield: I think the, need to get the surface done is overriding. I mean, is there a chance to…

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Town of Plainfield: like, bring in a second construction outfit to, like, co-work, so when the… when the road is taken up, like, the second crew could be there to put in the larger pipe? We'd have to finance that.

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Town of Plainfield: And I don't… Sorry? Yeah. I did talk to Mike Bingham earlier today, because we were arranging because I had manholes on the street as well. And he had talked about doing a bunch of this work prior to…

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Town of Plainfield: the paving, so the paving crew can just come in and do what they need to do. Typically anytime you disturb the road surface, whether it's for us to do the work we need to do on the manholes, or if they end up replacing or doing anything with the culverts.

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Town of Plainfield: It's best to let any new material set for a while and have traffic over it to make sure you get proper compaction. So, trying to do…

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Town of Plainfield: work at the exact same time, or very close at the same time for paving is not advised, because you'll likely get a large amount of sinking, which will ruin your pavement. So, I don't remember if he said specifically whether they were going to replace all of the culverts, but they were going to be doing…

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Town of Plainfield: All of the work on the culverts, probably a couple months prior, or at least a month prior to…

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Town of Plainfield: The resurfacing will be done.

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Town of Plainfield: To give that time to settle and come back before the surfaces reground and…

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Town of Plainfield: It's very definitely on his mind. And he reinforced the fact that we want to have a uniform and continuous road, and not have brakes, because that's where we have failures. So, thank you for that, Tristan. Thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: Any, questions from the board?

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Town of Plainfield: Online.

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Town of Plainfield: So I guess we should, assume that that is…

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Town of Plainfield: That's the informational meetings. The informational meeting. I would… I would point out that the reason this was broken out into a Class 2 and Class 3 road is that Class 2 roads will get more help if we can get some grants and funding. So, it'll… it's… that's why it was done that way, and that's why,

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Town of Plainfield: He wanted it separated.

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Town of Plainfield: With that said, I guess we'll take a break, and then have our Select Board meeting.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, I can pause the recording.

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Town of Plainfield: I thank you all for coming.

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Town of Plainfield: We're rolling.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, well,

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Town of Plainfield: We'll restart here. We already called the meeting to order at 5.30, but we had our public hearing part of this. So now we have, any changes to the agenda? Is there anything that you're going to recommend? Yeah. I've got the child care stuff at Twinfield.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. For the town meeting, I… we don't know about having any… about…

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Town of Plainfield: We have two really solid bills. Should we… You want this on the agenda? Well, I was gonna talk about it now, no? Well, you can do it as an announcement, or we can do it as part of the town meeting layout conversation, or we can add it to the agenda. This is the part of the meeting where we just say what's going to be added to the agenda. Okay, how about that? You want to put it in the town meeting layout? Just a few minutes, yeah. Okay. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: Any other changes, or…

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. Any announcements?

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Town of Plainfield: Michael? I wanted the public to be aware that a week from Thursday.

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Town of Plainfield: Our, almost year-long Great Brook study is going to do a…

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Town of Plainfield: public presentation here in this room, Thursday night at 7pm. What date is that again? That's the 19th of February. Okay. And the purpose of that meeting is to hear from people who have been observing problems at the Great Brook, or new issues at the Great Brook, or have ideas for new changes or solutions for the Great Brook. In other words.

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Town of Plainfield: We really want folks to come forward and help us plan the priority of projects that will be studied the most strongly.

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Town of Plainfield: We know a few areas that are going to be getting that kind of study,

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Town of Plainfield: But we also are open to expanding it when someone points out to us that there is an important problem or an important solution that they'd like to be considered by the engineering firm. So, while we invite public comment and public participation, we'll be having that meeting on Zoom.

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Town of Plainfield: As well as, in person. Okay, and people can find the announcement in their normal… their normal ways, yeah, okay. That's correct. Thank you for doing that. Is this the hazard mitigation meeting for… for this month? It is at 7 o'clock? Thank you for that clarification, Francis, you're right. It is in the context of the regular hazard mitigation meeting of this month, so that's the subject of the Hazard Mitigation Committee, is the

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Town of Plainfield: what is called the second… it's the second milestone meeting. There's three, over the course of the study, and this is the first one of those three. We have an opening meeting, and now we're going to this.

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Town of Plainfield: Next one in the staging. And it starts at 7, then?

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Town of Plainfield: It's at 7, that's correct. When are they hoping to have a report of any kind? Is there some end date that they're shooting for? Their final report is expected in October, but they will be giving preliminary reports along the way. One of the holdups, and it probably would have meant more progress.

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Town of Plainfield: is that the weather never worked in the fall for the helicopter overflights that you might have remembered. Those overflights will give us very detailed ground-terrain stuff, and I talked with them about

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Town of Plainfield: I talked with Keith Cohen about it today, and we expect the conditions will improve, and by April, then they'll be able to start moving much more quickly. Great. Okay. Any other announcements? Yep. Just announcing my, two-year term is ending, at Town Meeting Day. I am unable to run again. I'm very excited that, Andy Robinson, is able to run for that two-year term, and will be on the ballot, for Town Meeting Day.

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Town of Plainfield: Excited for Andy to start, bummed to not be continuing this work, but, it's been great these two years to work with the Select Board. Well, you will be there. You will. Thank you.

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Daniel Hardy: Daniel Hardy here. May I ask a quick question?

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Daniel Hardy: Will that,

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Daniel Hardy: I'm sorry, going back to… will that meeting on the 7th at 7… on the 19th at 7pm, will that also be Zoom compatible? I'm gonna be out of the town.

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Town of Plainfield: It is Zoom. Yes. It is Zoom, yes.

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Daniel Hardy: Okay, thank you, I'm sorry.

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Town of Plainfield: That's okay. And then I had a quick question. Any other announcements? It's kind of, maybe back to the changes to the agenda. Open question.

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Town of Plainfield: We had the message from Angela Ogle about library events here. Is that a discussion for the Plainfield Arts Board, or should we set a moment tonight or the next meeting to discuss the request? Probably at the… maybe the next meeting, but that's a question for the Select Board, to decide if a… if a non-government group can have… I mean, the Select Board sets the rates for this building.

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Town of Plainfield: So, if they want to set no rates for that organization, that would be up to them. And so, you'd rather see that table to the 23rd? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just because we have a full agenda already. Thank you. Yep. And, I'm sure Bram will say this, but people should not forget that,

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Town of Plainfield: the taxes are due Wednesday for school taxes.

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Town of Plainfield: So, just a reminder there.

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Town of Plainfield: Public comments, that kind of falls into that, I suppose, but anything else from anyone?

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Town of Plainfield: Seeing none, Town Clerk's report. Just quickly, as Carl mentioned, taxes, school second payment is due Wednesday. It needs to be in the drop box at the town office, or postmarked by the 11th.

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Town of Plainfield: Note that the post office has changed their policy regarding postmarking, so in order to ensure, I would bring it to the front and have it stamped, rather than simply dropping it in the box.

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Town of Plainfield: And,

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Town of Plainfield: I guess, just in the interest of brevity, should we just move into the discussion of the town meeting, layout, or is that…

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Town of Plainfield: But that's fine, yeah. I wasn't sure if the town office layout was meant… the town meeting layout. I think that's what it was meant by.

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Town of Plainfield: I mean, I think I was using your words. Okay, great. So basically, what I just want some direction on, obviously, the Board of Civil Authority is the determiner of this, but…

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Town of Plainfield: For town meeting, in the past, the Select Board has, sat on the floor, and the voters have sort of been in back of the, of the Select Board on the floor.

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Town of Plainfield: it didn't seem to work out the way the voting was laid out last year within the back and the front there, and I just want to get a general idea. Does the select board wish to be on stage or on the floor? I have… we can work around either way, but do you have a preference?

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Town of Plainfield: I think the stage works well, but… Okay, that's great. We can't have… I don't know that we would ever be able to have Zoom, can we? Well, folks can't part… I mean, people can watch the Zoom, but they can't participate, so there would be no specific need to see the Zoom, because things happening on Zoom, including the chat, would not be part of the meeting. Right.

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Town of Plainfield: Because they can't be legally by state law. Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: How do other people feel?

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Town of Plainfield: there's any sensibility to putting us on stage? Like, the focal, vocal…

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Town of Plainfield: points for the meeting coming from the stage. That makes sense to me.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, and often the voting is done so people are walking in front. We can arrange the voting, but I just wanted to understand if the slide board would like to be honest. I mean, it's not even really, I mean, about the select board, it's making sure the moderator and stuff's up there. I mean, we're up there too, it's fine, but then people can see and hopefully hear what sound. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, we have issues with seeing if people are sitting in the front. Board of Civil Authority meeting, prior to the election, just to go over…

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Town of Plainfield: technical stuff, and we'll… I'll have a blueprint of the layout, which I'll circulate, and great. …go from there. So that's it for me.

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Town of Plainfield: Great, okay.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, we're rolling right into… There was one other… well, there's two things. One, we added Patty's item to this agenda item. Oh, right, yes. But also, there was a question from, CV Fiber from…

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Town of Plainfield: Jeremy… right, Jeremy? If they could have a table? I don't know, what's the policy for how we decide who gets tables, and… So, for decades, we've allowed, different groups to be…

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Town of Plainfield: you know, on the floor. Last year, we had a, you know, a very… a person very, very well versed in legalese who said that there might be issues if the organization is asking for money. I, I…

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Town of Plainfield: Personally think it would be fine to have them

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Town of Plainfield: On the floor. I don't… that and the library is another one. The Cutler Library and CD Fiber, well, the Cutler Library doesn't table, right? The Friends of the Cutler, which is a non-profit table, not the Cutler Library itself. Right.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, so there's a slight difference there. Well, there is, I mean, it's different sets of money. And of course, the fire department sells chills. Yeah. Well, the fire department does do… and they are, I mean, obviously in the town budget, but… Okay, I mean, no, no, I'm just saying that there are differences. I'm fine with tables. I mean, part of it is, I mean, we have to optimize for people sitting and for the voting. Right. And so then the question is how many tables…

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Town of Plainfield: beyond that, do we have room for? And people walking, because people are going to be walking around the perimeter, I think, to get to voting… Well, we can, I'll present a floor plan, and then we can go over this at the…

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Town of Plainfield: Board of Civil Authority meeting, because that group, which includes you all, is the one that makes those determinations, not the Select Board, so…

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Town of Plainfield: But you need a decision about this table tonight? Well, I think what I'll do is I'll circulate a layout to the Select Board for next meeting.

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Town of Plainfield: And then you can give me feedback, and then I'll incorporate that into the discussion of the Board of Civil Authority meeting, which will be a little bit later. Regarding the, selling products or services to the voters.

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Town of Plainfield: they're also offering something that people really want, right? I mean, some people in town really would like to know what the communication options are. Yeah, I would note that this is a tradition that's decades old, and I think that we might be kind of looking at the letter of the law in terms of this sort of

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Town of Plainfield: parsing, but I think letter of law can be important, so we can have that discussion, but I think maybe not right this second.

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Town of Plainfield: I'll just note, as you're communicating with folks who might want to table, that Jeremy and Susie Pfeiffer's one of them, and… Yeah. I've heard from the library and Jeremy…

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Town of Plainfield: And probably the fire department will as well. Yep. Okay.

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Town of Plainfield: Any other thoughts on that?

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Town of Plainfield: And, the, the, yeah, the libraries, or the, like, childcare? What's your update on that? All I wanted to say is we have, truly Austin adults.

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Town of Plainfield: I don't know who we have for teens yet, because they were confused with the Marshfield. So I put it out there again today, that they can sign up, but at least we have the really, really good adults. Yeah. And, how… how… how and when will we pay them?

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Town of Plainfield: how, I don't know. I guess we… they… we have to know how many hours they have, and we've already agreed on the amount, so it would be a matter of putting together an invoice, and…

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. So who would do that? Getting it paid.

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Town of Plainfield: I think we should ask one of the adults to log in who's working and how many hours, and then we can use that to create checks. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it won't be that same day. Yeah, we won't… there's no one to write checks on that day, because they're all working the election. Thus far, there's only one person signed up for childcare. Is it you? It is.

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Town of Plainfield: So, did you do the last meeting? Well, I think it's a great service, and I'm glad it's offered, because we don't want to keep people away just because… Otherwise, I'm not on stage, I'm with the library. And the library's a great place, too. Yeah. For that.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, any other, layout issues?

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Town of Plainfield: Town Constable. Hello! How are you feeling? Good. Well, you weren't feeling great last week when we were talking. Okay. I wanted to come in person, primarily discuss the aftermath of enforcing the…

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Town of Plainfield: parking ban and Mill Street plot, towing folks. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: It's unfortunate, but…

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Town of Plainfield: One of the things that came out of that, it led to a lot of good discussion, and there is a good deal of confusion

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Town of Plainfield: about the town parking regulations. People were like, well, I can't park on the street, I can't park in the lot, where do I park? Well, no, you can't park on the street overnight, 11 p.m. to 6 a.m.

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Town of Plainfield: You can park in the lots. But by 8 AM,

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Town of Plainfield: You'd have to move to the street so we could plow the lots. I don't know when…

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Town of Plainfield: Before I go down that tangent, that was one thing, the confusion on that. It was also one gentleman that, when I stopped back by the town office, was there inquiring about his car, and I had to explain to him that he now needed to pay $350 to get his car out to go to work.

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Town of Plainfield: Which was not pleasant. Why not? He's a renter here in town.

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Town of Plainfield: And one of the things that came out of that is landlords are not telling.

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Town of Plainfield: their tenants, when they move in, any information about parking of the rental doesn't include off-street parking.

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Town of Plainfield: So as the overall thing of…

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Town of Plainfield: what I came out with is…

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Town of Plainfield: Are there ways we can better communicate?

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Town of Plainfield: what the town parking regulations are. One person said, oh, I didn't know, and I pointed to their vehicle, which was parked directly in front of the sign that said, no parking during snow events, and everything. Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: So, regarding the landlords, I wonder if they should be asked to give, when they're signing leases, a document that the town's created that has the rules of parking, because that's a big… that's an important piece, especially for renters. Yeah, that's where I was going with that. It shouldn't be too hard to identify…

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Town of Plainfield: We're gonna know which of the…

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Town of Plainfield: Buildings in the village don't have off-street parking, and the owner, hey, do you use a property management company?

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Town of Plainfield: and provide some type of information. Hey, if you're getting new tenants, please make sure they understand this. So, can I reflect to you, and try to… if someone asks me, as a renter, where do I park if my unit doesn't allow off-street parking, or doesn't provide?

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Town of Plainfield: And I could say, well, you could stay in any of the municipal lots.

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Town of Plainfield: overnight until 8, and then come back to the street. Yep. And that's it. That's good. That's good. That's very simple, but it's… it has to be clear. And also crisp on time, not, like, loosey-goosey on time. Well, I mean, it was, like, 8.45 by the time you guys actually, like, towed people, right?

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, action got there probably about 8.30. Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: As intended, it was like, once the truck showed up, you know, lights going on, and we hooked the first one, magically people started coming down.

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Town of Plainfield: One of the other things that came out of it is…

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Town of Plainfield: One of the gentlelides who first hooked up, And… Came out.

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Town of Plainfield: Our tow provider actually agreed to drop the vehicle, even though they normally don't. They normally don't, that's great, yeah. And it's a scheduling thing. They're a bar manager, so they get back in the wee hours of the morning.

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Town of Plainfield: to then waking up to then move the car wasn't clear. So, another thing in that is, is…

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Town of Plainfield: And I… Michael Bingham provided some clarification on it. It's one of those, is 8 a.m. a timed? Because that's what we chose a bunch of years back, based on a 9-to-5 schedule. Oh, yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: Which… majority of folks probably don't work, but Michael made it clear, like, it's…

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Town of Plainfield: the way that town does the road clearance, that's when they're…

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Town of Plainfield: Done plowing the streets, they're done plowing all the roads, they come back, they hit the parking lots.

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Town of Plainfield: And then the equipment goes back.

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Town of Plainfield: So if we were to modify the time, it would be getting the road crew back out in the equipment loaded up to go clear lots.

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Town of Plainfield: So I don't think moving the time is the answer. I think better communication and consistent enforcement. Well, and letting them know that there's a whole… a 2-hour period, right, from 6 a.m. to 8 a.m, where they could move… start moving their cars. Because after 6, you can… After 6, you can park. It's not like everybody has to move right at 8 AM. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: There's… in the park and ride.

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Town of Plainfield: There's a trailer with a bunch of stuff on it that snowed in. There's a wrecked vehicle, which I've already been in contact with the owner, he's working out a different plan.

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Town of Plainfield: There's another one that's abandoned with those, I feel like we'd just be solving somebody's problem for them at the town's expense at $85 a day in storage. And…

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Town of Plainfield: The Mill Street one is the one that most…

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Town of Plainfield: folks are going to use when they're coming to town to visit business establishments, do that. The catalyst for me was enforcement. I watched an older lady fall and hit her head, because she was trying to get out of her car. Because there was a snowbag there. …on top of, you know, a couple inches of ice, and I'm like.

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Town of Plainfield: And it's so easy to deal with if it's clear, if it's open. They can just run down and smooth it out. Come out with a bucket loader.

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Town of Plainfield: It's a lot easier than trying to have a town plow truck.

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Town of Plainfield: scooping snow and stuff back there, so… We do have snow incoming.

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Town of Plainfield: Tomorrow through Wednesday, supposed to be 4 to 8 inches where we're at. Like, this last one, it was an inch or two.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. So I'm gonna communicate on the Town Facebook group, also on Group 4 tomorrow. Thank you. Hey, considering there's a snow event, cars need to be moved. Yeah. A lot of people ask, you know, how is this communicated?

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Town of Plainfield: The ways we have, there's signage…

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Town of Plainfield: Well, I appreciate the way you've handled this. I mean, I think it's caring as much as you can be. I do wonder about somebody who comes home

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Town of Plainfield: You know, and then goes to bed, and then it snows. So, they… I don't know how they… I guess they have to just pay attention to the weather.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, usually these are announced, like, if it starts snowing at 3 in the morning, it's not like they expect people to get out, and… Right. Unless they haven't announced a snow thing, if an unexpected snow comes. Yeah, and it's a mix of…

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Town of Plainfield: weather apps all show it, it's on the news, hey, we're getting this. Yeah, yeah, okay. I did identify a few folks who have off-cycle schedules, and I'm like.

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Town of Plainfield: They have my number. If there's an issue, they can communicate with me. The biggest part of that is communication. Yeah. I just wanna… Yes. I was in the office, when one of the individuals came by.

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Town of Plainfield: Regarding the towing, and for this individual, that was a big number, 350. Yeah. And I thought that Dan handled it beautifully. Yeah. I appreciate that, and I…

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Town of Plainfield: And you certainly tried to communicate ahead of time, a lot, by…

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Town of Plainfield: explaining what we were trying to do and why we were doing it, so… Yeah, and I'm,

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Town of Plainfield: There's been an attempt made to get a roster of folks that use

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Town of Plainfield: The lots, so that we know, you know, bike plate number, vehicle make and model, so we have somebody to contact.

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Town of Plainfield: I mean… There were folks down there, like, yelling at apartments, because they knew whose car it was, but not where they lived, trying to get them to come out and move. There's been a couple other issues, up on Gore Road, there's…

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Town of Plainfield: a camper that's wrapped that's within the town right away. It's been difficult for Mike to get by. Now there's two cars that were parking there, so he could barely get by with the wing folded in.

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Town of Plainfield: Wow. And he's like, hey, if I hit a bad patch and I slide, that allows…

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Town of Plainfield: He's stuck there, some big ditches on the other side. Well, it was gonna hit them, essentially. Hit them, so I went up.

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Town of Plainfield: Sunday? Yeah, Sunday, it was…

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Town of Plainfield: Cold. Made contact with a resident nearest, it's not their vehicle, but they knew who it was, and they just said, hey.

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Town of Plainfield: You can't partner.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: So, hopefully that solves that issue. Another ongoing one that I thought we'd solve with a certain thing being parked somewhere.

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Town of Plainfield: Truck's no longer there, but there is now, like, 10 round bales of hay in its place. Oh, in the…

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Town of Plainfield: Oh, please. We don't necessarily have an ordinance against you can't park your hay there, but it is… it's temple property, there's…

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Town of Plainfield: And I've been over all this with you, even if it's…

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. You say this is private property, the town's right-of-way 49.5 feet from the center line of the road, it's impeding the right-of-way. I point to, I forget the town, gentleman who put straw bales in front of…

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Town of Plainfield: Trees lining the road to prevent it getting hit from a plow. Town got into a thing, it's in the town right away.

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Town of Plainfield: I don't want to get into that, but… No. If it becomes… if it becomes an issue, like, Mike was able to turn around.

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Town of Plainfield: If it becomes an issue, My first instinct, because it's me as well.

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Town of Plainfield: Move the bells. Come off under the ditch, you gotta plot. Yeah. But I think that…

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. Every time I think we've arrived at a reasonable rational solution. There's another wrinkle.

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Town of Plainfield: So I'm still chewing over that one. I'll probably email you all some thoughts, Sean.

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Town of Plainfield: I'll take a road up there tomorrow. That's also on the road? No, that's on, Maxfield.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, it's kind of an ongoing issue. Is there enough parking for people in Plainfield?

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: And what about Rec Road? You know, what about the recreation? Rec field, same thing. Yes. Town lock, you can park there until 8 AM. Yeah, just move it.

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Town of Plainfield: So I think, I think… there's two things at play. One is…

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Town of Plainfield: Communication. We can refer back to It's clearly signed. Hmm.

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Town of Plainfield: If it was just one person that said, I don't understand where do I park.

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Town of Plainfield: That'd be one thing, but I had a couple people, like, well, if I can't park down the street, I can't park in the lot.

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Town of Plainfield: I think maybe we can do some better communication. I think the other thing is there hasn't been consistent enforcement.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah. So they're like, well, they didn't do anything that time. Maybe right when I stand, like, my subjective thing is if it's an inch or two, like we got… Yeah. Look at the weather report, it's gonna be sunny, but if we're getting…

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Town of Plainfield: Like, this next one coming in 48 inches, or a major storm.

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Town of Plainfield: Well… Seems good to me. Obviously, you are, but communication with the road crew and their needs. They're obviously gonna let us know if they… And they're not unreasonable, the road crew, they just need to… they need to get the roads open. Well, it makes sense, it's not a…

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Town of Plainfield: If we were to adjust the time to later, we would be calling the road crew back on hours to then…

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Town of Plainfield: Warm up the equipment, burn more fuel, it just doesn't seem like a smart…

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Town of Plainfield: fiscal… from a fiscal responsibility sense, a good use of town resources. So I think we…

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Town of Plainfield: Consistently enforce, compassionately enforce, do what we can to better communicate.

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Town of Plainfield: I think switching up the messaging to go from what not to do to what to do might help, like, boost clarity around, you know, welcome overnight lot parking, make sure you're moved by 8, you can go back to the street by then. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: And that… that's clearer than I've understood it previously.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, is there any difference in signage that you think would make any difference? I mean, if people are parking underneath the sign that says no parking, I guess you… maybe not, but… I mean, other than adding a little one under there that says…

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Town of Plainfield: You can park in the spots right across the street after 6 AM, but it's, you know, right in front of Positive Pi.

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Town of Plainfield: And in all places, it says 11pm to 6 a.m. Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: The ones in the lots say.

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Town of Plainfield: you know, all cars must be moved by 8 AM in a storm… in a snow event. Yep, yep.

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Town of Plainfield: Well, I wasn't imagining you were gonna have so much of this work to do with snow, but… it's here. Joshua was nice enough to leave me a…

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Town of Plainfield: he came out and brought a snow broom and a shovel, so while we were waiting, we snowbroomed off people's cars. Yep. Great.

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Town of Plainfield: Oh, okay, well, thanks for that. Anything else that, that's… that's really it. Okay. Thank you, Dan. Thank you. Was that… was that issue the one you were gonna call me about? You were gonna talk about? No, that's it. Something else? Okay, we'll talk about it if you want.

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Town of Plainfield: Okay, we're moving on. Thank you, Dan, for coming in.

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Town of Plainfield: You look very summery, by the way. Well, it's, I'm trying to get Mahalo Monday going on at work, since everybody works from home on Hawaiian Shirt Friday. That's great.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, you didn't wear your Hawaiian shirt. You're retiring, you should start wearing them now. Oh, I should do it now, yeah. I'm so short, I can, you know, geez. He's coming up for the next one. Okay, okay, yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: So we're gonna talk about the,

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Town of Plainfield: Permanent project on 652, which, daniel Hardy, I think, is… Yeah, he's here. Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: We'll wait for Keith for a second.

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Town of Plainfield: Hmm.

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Town of Plainfield: The, we have a bond grant, this, this water, wastewater bond grant. We just had the open meeting on that. Do we vote on this, or is that… what is that?

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Town of Plainfield: I don't. I don't think that… I think that,

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Town of Plainfield: I think, did you… is this the thing that you signed, or… I think it was just a conversation, there was some documents that needed to be signed. Oh, I saw, I signed… I think that's the thing that you signed, and… I think I got it done. Okay. I don't recall that a vote was needed, but I think you signed it. Yeah, okay. I think we had had an earlier vote, actually.

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Town of Plainfield: Welcome, Keith. Why don't you come up right to the front here, so we can hear you and see you. Going from one meeting to another, huh?

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Town of Plainfield: Okay. So, permanent project on 652 Brook Road,

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Town of Plainfield: What can you tell us? So, this is a segment of Brook Road from Creamery Street to Cameron Road. You know, it was put back to the current state, in the emergency repair seg portion.

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Town of Plainfield: of the Federal Highway process. Right. We're now at what could be a permanent project for this.

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Town of Plainfield: Under Federal Highway, it's a 90% federally funded project, but 10% would be on the town.

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Town of Plainfield: Due to the fact that,

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Town of Plainfield: VEM is doing their current flood study in the overall Great Brook.

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Town of Plainfield: I wanted to bring it to you all, because this might be a place where you could choose to possibly save some money, but it's your decision.

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Town of Plainfield: And with Josh being out on medical, I've been kind of filling in, trying to still support the town through this process. Thank you. Thank you, yeah. Yeah, and even whoever comes in to fill in, in the meantime, we'll still be there as the region, trying to support you on this, because it's a big… this is a big thing, and especially with the realignment we're trying to do in the upper portion, this is going to be a big thing that goes on for years.

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Town of Plainfield: Yep.

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Town of Plainfield: But on this segment, because… due to the fact that VM is doing their flood study, which will both understand the Great Brook much better than we ever have in the past, and identify locations for projects.

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Town of Plainfield: we had talked about this, and I've talked to Josh about it, that this might be an opportunity to save your town some money of not proceeding with the permanent project at this time.

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Town of Plainfield: letting VM get the… get basically good modeling down through there, determine what is the best solution.

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Town of Plainfield: Instead of, rushing and not having that full modeling done, so that we have a full understanding of it. And we also have got word from Federal Highway that in another flood, because it's already put back to the standards and conditions that it's required to be, if there was another flood, say, tomorrow.

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Town of Plainfield: that it would… I know, go ahead. But if there was, that we could actually go directly into the… back into starting the whole FHWA process again, and now with the understanding everyone has, that that first 270 days is 100% funded.

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Town of Plainfield: So, you know, we basically… we have the study happening that most likely is going to give us a lot of answers.

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Town of Plainfield: On this segment.

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Town of Plainfield: And possibly even give us a design, because Bridge 22, which is that next bridge on Cameron Road.

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Town of Plainfield: that Federal Highway isn't doing anything with at this time. It didn't get a permanent project. We realized that most likely that is the next weak spot in there.

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Town of Plainfield: and any scoping study the BEM would have, if it identifies that as the weak spot, it would possibly even look at this segment as well. Is 22 the base that Cameron wrote? Yes. Yeah, okay.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, so we don't… Honestly believe there's much

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Town of Plainfield: Overall, there isn't much risk, but there's still insurance that if any other future disaster happens, that this segment would be rebuilt, and if we were to have that study from the,

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Town of Plainfield: we'd be able to basically move right into a rebuilding. We'd have plans, most likely, for that.

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Town of Plainfield: Hmm. Does anybody have any questions? Yeah. I just want to flesh out what Keith has said.

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Town of Plainfield: And I think we may have some comments also from people who live in the vicinity, but the, area that we're talking about is the big curve.

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Town of Plainfield: which is always impacted directly by the brook. It's very frequent that that portion is either partially or fully washed out, because the brook wants to push against the outside of that curb, which is where the road is. And so…

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Town of Plainfield: At present, at the fixed level that we have now, the temporary repair that was done, close after the flood in 2024. That actually restricts the flow of the brook more than it was restricted before the flood. In other words, it was a…

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Town of Plainfield: more fill was put in than typically might have been the case before that, and as a consequence, the brook, if anything, is more constricted in that area. And that increases the likelihood it will wash out more in the future. So…

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Town of Plainfield: not doing a permanent repair, besides not putting the town in a position to have to match federal money.

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Town of Plainfield: We also gives us a chance to hear what SLR says about that. That's our engineering firm working for the Great Brook Study. And he says VEM study, that's Vermont Emergency Management.

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Town of Plainfield: funded study that we're going to be talking about next Thursday at our Hazard Mitigation Committee. And we're asking people specifically if they see a portion of the book where a recurring problem happens.

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Town of Plainfield: Which, this is one of those places to speak up about any possible solutions that you have in mind, and then the next time there is, further impact on the road, that's when we'll have a chance to fix it, which I think is what I hear guests saying. Yeah.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, it sounds logical. I mean, it is a functioning road at the moment. Exactly. And granted, another flood could take it right out, but, but it's like, there's other places on the road, I think, need attention. Exactly. Being very realistic of the funds, you know, your funding, and

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Town of Plainfield: looking at that long term. Where's our money well spent? Where might we be able to… okay, we also… we're working toward a solution, it might take a little bit longer than this current one, but we should have better answers from that solution as well, because

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Town of Plainfield: Anything they would do now, they would just model just that small piece.

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Town of Plainfield: They're not gonna look at the whole overall watershed as much. Right. You know,

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Town of Plainfield: in that Vermont Emergency Management and SLR study, they do plan on LIDAR-ing the entire valley, as soon as the snow melts off here in the spring, so we'll have the best modeling done of it.

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Town of Plainfield: and be able to understand it much better, and how much it's actually changed even in the last study. And this SLR study is great, because it looks at the whole thing. It's not just taking that little piece and saying, well, we can fix this. Well, maybe it can, but you create a problem down here. So this way, it's really looking at the whole thing.

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Town of Plainfield: Thank you. Karen Hatcher, you have a comment? I have a comment.

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Karen Hatcher: A comment and a question. So first to say that I think what's being proposed is a good idea. And, and second, to ask the question, I understand that in the first

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Karen Hatcher: group of projects, Mill Street Bridge, Bridge 21, and Bridge 22. Those are grouped as one…

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Karen Hatcher: Project that, right now,

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Karen Hatcher: VCB is doing the engineering on. Is it easy enough to pull that one bridge out of that project, or is there any…

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Karen Hatcher: you know, is there any difficulty in that? I just want to check, because we've always been referring to that, that project, if you will, as three locations.

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Town of Plainfield: It is 3 locations, but this one is not a bridge. It's the segment

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Town of Plainfield: From the bridge 21 up to, basically, the abutment of Bridge 22, which is the one right there by Cameron Road. Right, it's not including the bridge, yeah. It's from Creamery Street all the way to Cameron Road? Yeah. Yeah. That's like a quarter mile, half mile? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I didn't measure it out, but yeah.

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Karen Hatcher: Okay, thank you.

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Town of Plainfield: Did that answer it? Yep. Yep. Any other questions?

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Town of Plainfield: I think this is… this is going to want a vote. I have a question that has nothing to do with the… Well, can we figure out what the vote is we're supposed to have? What is the vote? I have a question. Oh, yeah.

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Daniel Hardy: Daniel Hardy here?

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Town of Plainfield: Yes.

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Daniel Hardy: Yeah, is there any consideration of,

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Daniel Hardy: taking out bridge number 21 and not… and not doing anything to that. Nobody would be landlocked, and that would save money.

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Daniel Hardy: And then appropriating those funds to another area that… where it could be used without hindering other people.

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Town of Plainfield: Because everybody…

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Daniel Hardy: Everybody…

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Town of Plainfield: Brook Road bridge in town, correct? Yeah, Bridge 21 is the first bridge you go on when you turn out to Brook Road.

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Town of Plainfield: Right? Next, next to what Susan Grimaldi's house. Susan Grimaldi's, yeah.

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Daniel Hardy: Right, right next to George Cushing's house.

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Town of Plainfield: Because Brook Road is still considered a…

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Town of Plainfield: federal connecting highway, we have to look… listen to the state a lot on what they would want us to work on. And that's one of the main bridges that they see, because that's an entrance to that, bypass highway, if you will. Even if the highway is relocated in some spots.

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Town of Plainfield: We still need that bridge, so that's why it's being…

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Town of Plainfield: And I think I would add to that, Daniel, that the engineers who reviewed with us their plans for the replacement to Bridge 21,

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Town of Plainfield: made the span something like two and a half times as wide. Yeah, it's 55 feet now. To accommodate a much increased flow of water. So though that is, like, a solid functioning bridge there now, the engineers, and I think we too, are hoping for better performance in a flood.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah.

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Daniel Hardy: Yeah, I'm just saying that the… of course, there'd be a little bit of a difference.

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Town of Plainfield: access per…

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Daniel Hardy: people accustomed to that route, but not much of a hindrance. It's, you know, a quarter of a mile. But, yeah.

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Daniel Hardy: And then, I think, is, is the bridge, what would that be? Bridge 23 above my house?

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Daniel Hardy: Is that by Ernie Graves? What number is that?

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Town of Plainfield: That's 23.

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Daniel Hardy: Yeah, that can't be… Is that still being considered to being Repair that gap?

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Town of Plainfield: We're considering everything, all options, including ignoring doing anything, but that's not an option we're favoring.

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Town of Plainfield: Just to inform the discussion, Daniel, when this idea of not having that bridge is raised, it presents a lot of rancor from people on Main Street at Hudson Avenue, and concerns about truck traffic and turning

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Town of Plainfield: on sharp turns. I'm not taking a position, I'm just letting you know that that's a…

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Town of Plainfield: a very, contentious issue. Okay. Yeah.

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Daniel Hardy: The bridge afterwards.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, thanks for that. And can I briefly say that Federal Highway Works Administration

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Town of Plainfield: is picking up the tab for most of this work, if we satisfy the requirements for a passage of the traffic from Route 2 to Route 302, which is what that's supposed to accomplish. If they're satisfied, they will be taking responsibility, and are taking responsibility for everything along the route.

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Town of Plainfield: Which includes those two bridges. So it isn't that the cost falls on the town and we save it one place and put it somewhere else. It's Highway Works Administration basically picking what they think is the safest route, and underwriting all the costs that are involved there. And they're considering those trucks and the other bigger vehicles that do use that route.

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Town of Plainfield: Even though it's… But there's no…

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Daniel Hardy: There's other bridges above, Fowler Road that are… are bad.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, yeah, we're looking at all that. Yeah, Daniel, all of these pieces have to be done in pieces, and so we… Right. And that's part of the reason why we're getting the whole Great Brook scoping Study, so that we have information about all of it, but we are working on the things that Federal Highway is allowing us to work on in the order they're allowing us to work on it, because they're paying 90% or more of the bill. Yeah, and we're taking their recommendations as they…

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Town of Plainfield: As they look at the project. Sometimes. Sometimes we're not taking the project. We're making… we're making our own suggestions, but…

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Daniel Hardy: Right.

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Town of Plainfield: Explain what vote you might need? What we would want is a vote from the Select Board if you're choosing to drop the permanent project on 652, just something signing off saying that the town has chosen to not proceed with a permanent project.

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Town of Plainfield: Currently. Currently. Currently. Currently, yeah. We would just… We don't need any new numbers.

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Town of Plainfield: I had… I had a woman…

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Daniel Hardy: I had a woman here this fall, and, that whole area.

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Daniel Hardy: she said that there were, they… she said I'd have to consent to it.

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Daniel Hardy: But we haven't… she hasn't sent me the plans yet, but she… she was saying that, for her 20 years of working, with projects like this, she said this is the most,

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Daniel Hardy: That area that totally washed out by my, that's why, right in front of my house, all the way down, is a couple acres there that she said that they think they would plant vegetation there that would slow down the river, and

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Daniel Hardy: But again, I haven't heard anything further, but I imagine

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Daniel Hardy: be addressed on Thursday, I don't know.

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Town of Plainfield: I would suggest you join that meeting on the 18th. 19th. On 19th, I'm sorry. 19th, the 7th p.m. 19th, yeah. Because that's the kind of…

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Daniel Hardy: but I'll be there. And I also want.

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Town of Plainfield: That's weird.

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Daniel Hardy: point out.

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Town of Plainfield: That…

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Daniel Hardy: The bridge above my house, before… what's gonna go on with that trailer? That trailer has to be removed.

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Daniel Hardy: Before that, falls in. And then further, where that

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Daniel Hardy: I was reading what zoning and what's required by the state, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that you cannot disturb the natural course a river takes. And the natural course that the brook has taken is right where that… that tr… gully is, that travine.

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Daniel Hardy: And that's a huge gap.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, we're looking at all this, Daniel, and I've had lengthy conversations about how to get rid of the graze property, that building, because that'll wind up in the river if it…

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Daniel Hardy: But the trailer, that would be, you know, that bridge is sturdy enough to open it up and getting that trailer out of there.

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Town of Plainfield: It may seem that way, but the engineers who have looked at it said it's very unsafe.

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Daniel Hardy: Right, but it's more where that trailer is. Okay, well, that's not my.

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Town of Plainfield: It's been considered, believe me. And I have, on that point, there's two trailers, these are camper trailers that sit behind the house that went down the river, in that stretch we were just talking about earlier, which still sit there, and I don't know, have we heard anything about.

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Daniel Hardy: There's only one trailer above Ernie on the left.

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Daniel Hardy: No, no.

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Town of Plainfield: I've.

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Daniel Hardy: No, no, no.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, we don't have to solve it tonight. I'm just saying, we have an issue there, and if there's a flood, it's gonna go down the river, and we're gonna have more debris in the river. Yeah, well, the most,

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Town of Plainfield: doctor that's most threatening is Ernie's, not the other ones. Those are.

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Daniel Hardy: across and not in a direct hit. Ernie's in a direct hit.

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Town of Plainfield: Yeah, Michael. Very briefly just say that in the…

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Town of Plainfield: The two trailers that, Carl is speaking about are… this is Michael Bonesley, are, on the land of Stephen Abel, and as a consequence, any decisions would have to involve Stephen Abel, and, we're able…

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Daniel Hardy: Right, but those trailers are accessible by Fowler Road, correct?

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Town of Plainfield: You're in the wrong place. No, I think we're talking about two different places. I'm talking about 730, which is the, household that was washed downstream completely.

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Town of Plainfield: That had a tenant at the time of the flood. And that house has two additional trailers, one of which has been partly cleaned out, and one of which remains where it was, and that will be decided, and that house is up for buyout, which will also change the disposition of the trailer.

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Daniel Hardy: Well, I'm confused. After Ernie's house, there's no… there's not another trailer until that ravine, and the other trailers are still accessible by going down to Fowler Road, correct?

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Town of Plainfield: Daniel, we're talking about the space that's between Cameron Road and,

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01:07:16.350 --> 01:07:21.680
Town of Plainfield: The old Laterno property, Darren. Yeah. It's the old Eternal property.

410
01:07:21.940 --> 01:07:25.249
Daniel Hardy: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about above my house.

411
01:07:25.250 --> 01:07:36.369
Town of Plainfield: Yeah, yeah, I know you are, but we're not worried about that. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, well, that house is already gone. Yeah. Okay, so, so we need a vote.

412
01:07:36.420 --> 01:07:56.250
Town of Plainfield: Does somebody want to make a motion? I think I was going to review the high points here. Okay. Well, that's probably a good idea. The high points, as I understand them, this project, 652, permanent project, it's approximately a quarter mile in length, it's already a functioning road.

413
01:07:56.710 --> 01:08:09.919
Town of Plainfield: To say yes to making it a permanent federal highway project, we're saying yes to 10% of the cost on the rebuild and re-engineer of a quarter mile of road that is already functioning.

414
01:08:10.130 --> 01:08:19.020
Town of Plainfield: without the benefit of the LiDAR survey of the watershed that is coming this spring.

415
01:08:19.260 --> 01:08:32.890
Town of Plainfield: And if we get hit by another flood, regardless of whether or not this project goes through or not, it might come out, and if it does, we can get 100% coverage from Federal Highway.

416
01:08:33.210 --> 01:08:44.450
Town of Plainfield: As long as we act quickly in that first 270 days. As long as we act quickly. And if it went past the 270 days, if it was still damaged, you would be able to just get a new permanent project in that location.

417
01:08:44.450 --> 01:09:00.520
Town of Plainfield: And by the way, it would be much easier to act quickly when you have a study in hand. Possibly even a design. Yeah. Motion for the Town of Plainfield to not proceed with a permanent federal highway project for Project 652 on the Brook Road.

418
01:09:00.750 --> 01:09:02.180
Town of Plainfield: Second.

419
01:09:02.529 --> 01:09:06.739
Town of Plainfield: All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

420
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:11.359
Town of Plainfield: Do we have to all sign that, or should I get…

421
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:29.019
Town of Plainfield: Is there a signature? Is there… I would probably need something on town letterhead so I can transmit that to you. Say it to me tomorrow, I'll print it up and have you guys come in. I'm just thinking, like, we can have one person sign. Yeah, I can do it, if you want. Board chair, file visits, the sign on the board.

422
01:09:29.380 --> 01:09:30.990
Daniel Hardy: May I clarify something?

423
01:09:30.990 --> 01:09:44.340
Town of Plainfield: Is there a second? Real quick, we need to clarify this before. We're in the middle, we're in the middle of the middle of motions right now, Daniel. So, you made your motion to have me sign. Authorize. And we're looking for a second.

424
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:52.159
Town of Plainfield: Second. And any discussion? And we're gonna vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

425
01:09:52.430 --> 01:09:56.180
Town of Plainfield: Okay. Daniel, did you have a comment?

426
01:09:56.180 --> 01:09:59.890
Daniel Hardy: I, I, I just want to clarify, .

427
01:09:59.910 --> 01:10:01.720
Town of Plainfield: I was told that,

428
01:10:01.790 --> 01:10:11.230
Daniel Hardy: Well, my property tax never went down after this flood, and that's what the woman that was here, she said that, they

429
01:10:12.030 --> 01:10:26.210
Daniel Hardy: I would have to sign over something where they would, take, like, two, two or three acres of land that she says is mine, and to do that, forestry development.

430
01:10:26.370 --> 01:10:39.349
Daniel Hardy: But, again, she hasn't sent me the, the, the paperwork on that, and I'm just wondering, when you're saying the project at 652, is it the area of where this woman,

431
01:10:39.530 --> 01:10:41.300
Daniel Hardy: We're talking about where all that

432
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:47.049
Daniel Hardy: Landfill… It's not… it is not the area where she was talking about.

433
01:10:47.050 --> 01:10:48.940
Town of Plainfield: It's not an address.

434
01:10:49.190 --> 01:10:53.239
Daniel Hardy: Well, okay, then, right, that's what concerned me. It's my address, so…

435
01:10:53.240 --> 01:11:06.700
Town of Plainfield: Well, it's… it's… they used your address to name the project, so your address is the closest to that stretch of road, so the name of the project is Project 652 on the Brook Road. Right. Not…

436
01:11:06.700 --> 01:11:14.040
Daniel Hardy: 652 Brook Road. Alright, so, so, but this project that this woman was talking to me about, is it part of that, of what you guys.

437
01:11:14.040 --> 01:11:21.710
Town of Plainfield: Not to our knowledge. No. Not to our knowledge. This is a totally separate, separate item that has to do with, conservation.

438
01:11:22.210 --> 01:11:23.429
Daniel Hardy: Well, that's what she told me.

439
01:11:23.430 --> 01:11:27.909
Town of Plainfield: That's another… That's… yes, so the project you're talking about is not this project.

440
01:11:27.910 --> 01:11:31.340
Daniel Hardy: Oh, okay, alright, alright, thank you for, thank you for the clarification.

441
01:11:31.340 --> 01:11:42.460
Town of Plainfield: Okay, so I'll take care of that, signing that on behalf of the board. You said you can make the letter up? Yeah. And I'll come in. Send me the text, and I'll do the letter in the letter up.

442
01:11:42.550 --> 01:11:53.789
Town of Plainfield: Yep. Do we have text for that? I think it'll be in the minutes, right? I'll send you what I have right here. Yeah, okay, okay, that's all we need. Okay.

443
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:59.620
Town of Plainfield: Okay, water wastewater Bond Grant.

444
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:13.999
Town of Plainfield: Is this something we have to… Yeah, thanks. Thanks for coming. We decided we don't need to do anything. Okay, thank you. Letter of support for the…

445
01:12:14.070 --> 01:12:22.060
Town of Plainfield: CDBGD-DR grant application. This would have to do with the, private,

446
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:27.109
Town of Plainfield: proposal going into, East Village expansion.

447
01:12:27.700 --> 01:12:31.799
Town of Plainfield: Karen's online. Karen, you want to talk about that?

448
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.060
Karen Hatcher: Sure. I'm representing the…

449
01:12:34.470 --> 01:12:46.970
Karen Hatcher: Plainfield Community Development Corporation tonight. A group of private citizens that have negotiated an agreement to acquire the land at the corner of East Hill and West Main.

450
01:12:46.970 --> 01:12:58.710
Karen Hatcher: And, we are applying for CDBG, funds in the second round. We've been encouraged by the staff at the state to do so for a smaller project.

451
01:12:58.890 --> 01:13:03.369
Karen Hatcher: I have provided to the board a letter with the details.

452
01:13:03.480 --> 01:13:09.430
Karen Hatcher: And we're asking, for the board's support to go with the grant application.

453
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:18.100
Karen Hatcher: And you have the letter that I drafted and sent to you with the details, and I'll take any questions that the board may have about any of that.

454
01:13:22.900 --> 01:13:28.630
Town of Plainfield: Any questions from the board? Karen, when did you send us this letter?

455
01:13:28.630 --> 01:13:33.799
Karen Hatcher: sent it to Francis Rose, and I thought Francis Rose was forwarding to the rest of you. Did that not happen?

456
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:42.019
Town of Plainfield: It's possible that didn't happen. How clear was it that I was supposed to forward it? Okay. I have not seen the letter, I would say.

457
01:13:42.020 --> 01:13:47.119
Karen Hatcher: I'm happy to, would you like me to read it to you, or would you like me to send it to you?

458
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:50.639
Town of Plainfield: How long is it?

459
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:52.180
Karen Hatcher: It's one page.

460
01:13:53.120 --> 01:13:54.289
Town of Plainfield: You can read it.

461
01:13:54.290 --> 01:13:55.110
Karen Hatcher: I can read it.

462
01:13:55.110 --> 01:13:57.999
Town of Plainfield: And Francis Rose will send it.

463
01:13:58.400 --> 01:13:59.860
Karen Hatcher: Got it. I will read it.

464
01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:01.630
Town of Plainfield: Yeah. Alright.

465
01:14:01.630 --> 01:14:13.780
Karen Hatcher: So what it says is during the flooding events of 2023 and 24, the Town of Plainfield suffered the catastrophic loss of 39 housing units, impacting our community physically, financially, and emotionally.

466
01:14:13.780 --> 01:14:23.590
Karen Hatcher: Recovery efforts began in the days after the flood… and continue to this day. Rebuilding our community remains a top priority for this Select Board and our residents.

467
01:14:23.700 --> 01:14:36.100
Karen Hatcher: We are writing, and this is a letter from the Select Board to the Review Committee. We are writing to express our support for this grant application, which seeks to help the Town of Plainfield become more flood resilient and

468
01:14:36.130 --> 01:14:44.720
Karen Hatcher: by adding new housing above the floodplain in the Village District, replacing some of the housing units lost during the floods of 2023 and 24.

469
01:14:45.060 --> 01:15:02.530
Karen Hatcher: This project will also help the Town of Plainfield recover the tax base lost and grow the existing tax base of the town. We believe that this project meets the goals of the Select Board to rebuild housing in our community in a way that mitigates risks to the town while moving the needle on new housing development.

470
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:05.959
Karen Hatcher: We have been made aware that, and these are bullet points.

471
01:15:06.170 --> 01:15:23.870
Karen Hatcher: PCDC has negotiated an agreement for the acquisition of the land, so I told you where that was. Second bullet, this phase of the project will install infrastructure to support 20 to 24 housing units, with a goal of 70% of them to be affordable to low- and moderate-income households.

472
01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:30.650
Karen Hatcher: Affordable housing will be built by development partners Habitat for Humanity and Hone Homes.

473
01:15:30.690 --> 01:15:46.940
Karen Hatcher: and supported by home ownership services provided by Downstreet Housing and Community Development. And the PCDC seeks to fund, through this grant, the construction of roads, water, sewer, and stormwater infrastructure to support the residents of this new neighborhood.

474
01:15:47.200 --> 01:16:00.379
Karen Hatcher: Then it says, we look forward to working with the Plainfield Community Development Corporation and its development partners to coordinate town services as needed as this project moves forward. We strongly support funding for this important housing project.

475
01:16:02.300 --> 01:16:03.849
Town of Plainfield: Great, thank you.

476
01:16:03.850 --> 01:16:04.630
Karen Hatcher: Welcome.

477
01:16:04.860 --> 01:16:23.819
Town of Plainfield: It should be pointed out that this is similar but different from the original, board-sponsored project, and the board… the select board is no longer involved in this, but you need the select board's vote to, show support

478
01:16:23.820 --> 01:16:24.950
Town of Plainfield: from the community.

479
01:16:25.410 --> 01:16:27.379
Karen Hatcher: Yes, that would strengthen the application.

480
01:16:27.380 --> 01:16:30.240
Town of Plainfield: Yup, yep. Yep. Okay.

481
01:16:30.240 --> 01:16:41.730
Karen Hatcher: We've also asked the Planning Commission for a letter, and there will be a public hearing on this grant on the 18th at 4 p.m. at the Goddard Campus Media Room.

482
01:16:45.860 --> 01:16:47.500
Town of Plainfield: At what time again, please?

483
01:16:47.500 --> 01:16:49.369
Karen Hatcher: 4 o'clock, 4 to 5.

484
01:16:49.650 --> 01:16:53.589
Town of Plainfield: 4 to 5. Yep. Okay, thank you.

485
01:17:08.510 --> 01:17:10.970
Town of Plainfield: Any questions, or comments, or…

486
01:17:11.230 --> 01:17:15.560
Karen Hatcher: The grant will be available by contact… if you look at the.

487
01:17:15.830 --> 01:17:16.300
Town of Plainfield: The plot.

488
01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:21.359
Karen Hatcher: public notice that's been posted, you can contact Lauren Geiger to get a copy of the grant after the 16th.

489
01:17:21.580 --> 01:17:26.239
Town of Plainfield: Okay, good. Next one. Yep.

490
01:17:26.580 --> 01:17:35.769
Town of Plainfield: I would make a motion. Is it time? Yeah. I would make a motion to approve a letter of support for…

491
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:53.619
Town of Plainfield: the Plainfield Community Development Corporation in their grant application for the last round of the CDBGDR grant funding season regarding the new and downscaled plans and design for the East Village expansion.

492
01:17:54.170 --> 01:17:59.430
Town of Plainfield: A second vote. It's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion?

493
01:17:59.570 --> 01:18:02.140
Town of Plainfield: Could I ask a question about this?

494
01:18:02.160 --> 01:18:26.130
Town of Plainfield: I'm sorry? I said, can I ask a question about this? You can ask a question. Is, so the Town of Plainfield will not be responsible for any of this, this development corporation? It's a private corporation. It's a non… it's a non-profit, I believe. It's a non-profit, and… And the reason for the Select Board getting involved is to, offer support for the grant application that they're filing.

495
01:18:26.360 --> 01:18:39.910
Town of Plainfield: And that's really the limit of what we're doing here. So who are the members of this? I don't… that's a Karen question. I don't even know, personally, but…

496
01:18:39.910 --> 01:18:42.519
Karen Hatcher: It's a matter of public record, you can look us up online.

497
01:18:42.990 --> 01:18:48.010
Town of Plainfield: Yep, there you go. Under 12.

498
01:18:48.180 --> 01:18:50.419
Karen Hatcher: Lanefield Community Development Corporation.

499
01:18:50.670 --> 01:18:51.909
Town of Plainfield: Okay, thank you.

500
01:18:51.910 --> 01:18:52.869
Karen Hatcher: You're welcome.

501
01:18:52.900 --> 01:19:05.920
Town of Plainfield: Okay, we have a motion and a second, to vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? And we have your… you have our support.

502
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:11.049
Karen Hatcher: Thank you. If you all sign it and then can just forward it to me digitally, that's fine.

503
01:19:12.830 --> 01:19:14.520
Town of Plainfield: Okay. Great.

504
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:15.080
Karen Hatcher: Thank you all.

505
01:19:15.080 --> 01:19:18.240
Town of Plainfield: By when, Karen, do you want that in…

506
01:19:18.240 --> 01:19:22.199
Karen Hatcher: The application's due the 27th of the month, so before then, please.

507
01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:24.200
Town of Plainfield: Okay.

508
01:19:24.650 --> 01:19:25.580
Town of Plainfield: for them.

509
01:19:29.100 --> 01:19:31.250
Town of Plainfield: Okay,

510
01:19:34.030 --> 01:19:50.830
Town of Plainfield: Radar speed sign. So, I've been doing a little work on this, and Peter and Patty had talked to, DTRANS at length a couple times, and we've gotten permission to have signs.

511
01:19:50.970 --> 01:20:00.059
Town of Plainfield: the state, VTRANS, has put up new signs, on both ends of this corner, blinking light corner, saying it's 30 miles an hour.

512
01:20:00.260 --> 01:20:15.590
Town of Plainfield: And they're giving us permission to put in radar signs that flash when you're going too fast. Okay. And, the range in prices is, like, $700 to $3,500, depending on the goodies you want.

513
01:20:15.910 --> 01:20:18.579
Town of Plainfield: But the basic one is,

514
01:20:18.850 --> 01:20:34.400
Town of Plainfield: is… what I'm gonna recommend is, is… and less than $1,000, and, it pretty much just does what we want it to do, which is the radar's gonna tell the driver how fast they're going.

515
01:20:34.660 --> 01:20:39.829
Town of Plainfield: It's not going to collect data, which is what you can get in more expensive ones.

516
01:20:39.990 --> 01:20:49.839
Town of Plainfield: But my thinking is, and I talked to Michael Bingham about this, my thinking is that if we get the simple ones, and then we decide we want data later.

517
01:20:49.840 --> 01:21:05.439
Town of Plainfield: we can take the simple ones and put them out somewhere else in town, and get the newer ones there, down the road. But I'm… but he's saying, well, who's going to collect the data, and I'm not sure. Yeah, go ahead. Are these signs,

518
01:21:05.440 --> 01:21:15.779
Town of Plainfield: Do they require… do they have… are they solar-powered? They're solar… they're solar-powered, they're mounted on the posts that the state has put in. It's very simple installation,

519
01:21:15.870 --> 01:21:29.630
Town of Plainfield: whichever one you get, but it's the computerization that makes them more expensive, and the simple one is… is… seems to be the most logical one, because what we're trying to do is slow people down. Yeah. And…

520
01:21:29.630 --> 01:21:36.429
Town of Plainfield: data somewhere that shows that those signs do… I mean, most people that are probably doing the speed limit are gonna…

521
01:21:36.510 --> 01:21:58.549
Town of Plainfield: automatically slow down when they say that. We don't know that, and, you know, maybe data would help us with that, but for me personally, sometimes I go a little fast when I'm going someplace, and if I see one of those signs, say, oh, I gotta better slow down. So, I think 95% of the population, maybe more.

522
01:21:58.550 --> 01:22:00.279
Town of Plainfield: Seems to me, it's gonna…

523
01:22:00.470 --> 01:22:08.560
Town of Plainfield: Slow down. Okay. Yeah. We'll see. But, that's our goal, and that would be what I would recommend, is the…

524
01:22:08.730 --> 01:22:14.090
Town of Plainfield: less costly ones. And, I do… I have a… some paperwork for…

525
01:22:14.390 --> 01:22:21.290
Town of Plainfield: authorization to install them, but I have some questions, which I don't have an answer for yet.

526
01:22:21.320 --> 01:22:36.000
Town of Plainfield: there's a fee to… there's a $100 fee if we put these in. I don't know if it's for 1 or 2, so I gotta get an answer, but they didn't call me back today. Did you want a vote here? Well, we… didn't we… we approved…

527
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:49.020
Town of Plainfield: We approved it. The purchase of the signs up to a certain amount, which is well over the $2,000 you're talking about now. Right. …a few months ago. Yeah, yeah, we did have a photo. This is just an update. Yeah, I was just giving you an update on what I found and doing the research on it.

528
01:22:49.020 --> 01:22:55.699
Town of Plainfield: So I'll continue to work with Mike Bingham, if that feels okay to everybody.

529
01:22:55.810 --> 01:22:58.610
Town of Plainfield: We did have a vote on it for the…

530
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:08.270
Town of Plainfield: Before, as he said. Yeah, I mean, thank you. But I did want you to know what I discovered. That sounds great. Thank you. Great to do that.

531
01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:17.510
Town of Plainfield: Okay, financial director. Treasurer. I think the idea here was that

532
01:23:17.510 --> 01:23:31.170
Town of Plainfield: we weren't going to… I think we were… basically, we haven't come to a place of having yet articulated the position that we're seeking within the town office, but pending that articulation…

533
01:23:31.180 --> 01:23:45.610
Town of Plainfield: That we would authorize a call for resumes to fill this position at the town office under the broad heading of financial director, which, by the letter of the law, by the state, would also be the treasurer.

534
01:23:46.190 --> 01:23:55.979
Town of Plainfield: Right, and my concern of calling it the treasurer, by name was to maybe jeopardize

535
01:23:56.100 --> 01:24:07.299
Town of Plainfield: Josh's place, not knowing what his position's gonna be, you know, what his condition's gonna be. So, so I think if we can call it that, the financial director, or…

536
01:24:07.300 --> 01:24:27.229
Town of Plainfield: They'll do the job of a treasurer, but… Yeah. It's all different. How's that sound to you? It sounds great. I mean, obviously, the request on the side of the people in the office is promptness. Yes. And you all know that, and so…

537
01:24:27.230 --> 01:24:44.930
Town of Plainfield: the faster we can get word out, the better. So, therefore, yeah, the way to make that happen sooner, in the next two weeks, is to make this authorization out. Tonight, yeah. So I would make a motion that we, the Plainfield Select Board, authorize

538
01:24:45.010 --> 01:24:57.270
Town of Plainfield: A call for resumes going out for a financial director for the Plainfield Town Office, pending select board completion of the job description.

539
01:24:57.430 --> 01:25:04.859
Town of Plainfield: Right. Second? I second that. We have a motion and a second.

540
01:25:05.150 --> 01:25:12.670
Town of Plainfield: Further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

541
01:25:12.670 --> 01:25:25.939
Town of Plainfield: Okay, we've got that. Liquor license, we have a liquor license request. Is that in… I don't know if it's in… Oh, there's the,

542
01:25:26.090 --> 01:25:40.700
Town of Plainfield: Oh, there it is, yeah, we have a new color now, and it's not… not jumping out at us anymore. Yeah. I think I've signed it. So this Jockey Hollow,

543
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.200
Town of Plainfield: Deli and catering.

544
01:25:44.590 --> 01:25:49.389
Town of Plainfield: Does anyone know anything about it? It's the golf course.

545
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:57.620
Town of Plainfield: It's the catering at the golf course on Country Club Road. Oh, okay. It's just for their operations. Carol has done…

546
01:25:57.620 --> 01:26:14.670
Town of Plainfield: the due diligence on it, and is recommending that we approve the liquor license that they have filled out with Carol. Okay. You want to make that as a motion? I can make the motion to approve the liquor license for Jockey Hollow Deli and Catering Incorporated. I can second that.

547
01:26:15.660 --> 01:26:22.700
Town of Plainfield: Can I hear a second? I seconded it. And, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

548
01:26:23.230 --> 01:26:40.140
Town of Plainfield: Okay, okay. Thanks, Bram. That's the new thing, huh? Approved? Can I, make a motion to approve the minutes from the January 29th, 2026 Select Board meeting? Please.

549
01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:46.099
Town of Plainfield: Second. And moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

550
01:26:47.470 --> 01:26:58.770
Town of Plainfield: And, another motion for… I'd like to make a motion that we have approval of warrants accounts payable 125-26, approval 129-26-2526.

551
01:26:59.100 --> 01:27:06.769
Town of Plainfield: Second. And we have a motion and second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye.

552
01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:14.050
Town of Plainfield: Did you say that? I did. Opposed? No. Okay,

553
01:27:14.100 --> 01:27:37.010
Town of Plainfield: Next Select Board meeting is 2-23-26. 6 o'clock here. We got two weeks off. Two weeks, yeah. One whole Monday. Can I make a motion to enter Executive Session to discuss personnel per 1VSA subsection 313?

554
01:27:37.710 --> 01:27:42.820
Town of Plainfield: I second. Moved and seconded. All those in favor, say aye. Aye.

555
01:27:43.060 --> 01:27:44.710
Town of Plainfield: Thank you, folks.

556
01:27:44.940 --> 01:27:54.920
Town of Plainfield: Thank you all. Aye. All right, friends, this is a time to leave the… leave the room. You'll be placed into the waiting room. Otherwise…

557
01:27:55.250 --> 01:28:00.370
Town of Plainfield: When we come out of executive session, we'll, if there's an announcement to make, we'll make that

558
01:28:03.070 --> 01:28:06.859
Town of Plainfield: I'm gonna… So, Kyle, you have to sign this, isn't it? Yep.

559
01:28:08.230 --> 01:28:20.009
Town of Plainfield: Mr. Chair, can I make a motion? Yes, please. Do we have a motion to return from Executive Session? Second. And we have a motion and a second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye.

560
01:28:20.350 --> 01:28:38.460
Town of Plainfield: And we have Peter on now to vote, that's great. There is no action, we're just coming out of executive session, no action from that, and so I would entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting tonight at session. Motion to adjourn at 842. 8.42.

561
01:28:38.460 --> 01:28:39.760
pyoungbaer: Second.

562
01:28:40.370 --> 01:28:46.860
Town of Plainfield: It's moved and seconded, and all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

563
01:28:47.690 --> 01:28:51.260
Town of Plainfield: That's unanimous. Thank you, Peter. Thank you.

564
01:28:51.480 --> 01:28:52.709
Town of Plainfield: Good night.

565
01:28:53.140 --> 01:28:54.110
pyoungbaer: Good night.

566
01:28:54.110 --> 01:28:54.440
Town of Plainfield: the media.

